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Re: Is Jaylen Brown still a Celtic?
« Reply #60 on: October 24, 2018, 08:11:16 AM »

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will Brad put Gordon on the bench or will Gordon have to volunteer for the role?
You don't bench your best player.  Hayward is Boston's best player, he needs to be in the starting lineup.  If you tinker with the starting lineup at all you either move Tatum or Brown to the bench (for Morris or Smart).  Lesser players, but may very well be a better fit and would allow the younger guy more free reign leading the bench unit. 

I actually think moving Brown to the bench would do him a lot of good and would also help Smart, so I'd start Irving, Smart, Hayward, Tatum, and Horford and let Brown have a bit more free reign and a more defined role where he can have the ball in his hand a bit more.  Smart can then just be the defensive stopper and not worry about offense at all, which is what I think his role really should be (he tries to hard offensively on the 2nd unit). 

Re: Is Jaylen Brown still a Celtic?
« Reply #61 on: October 24, 2018, 09:25:10 AM »

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will Brad put Gordon on the bench or will Gordon have to volunteer for the role?
You don't bench your best player.  Hayward is Boston's best player, he needs to be in the starting lineup.  If you tinker with the starting lineup at all you either move Tatum or Brown to the bench (for Morris or Smart).  Lesser players, but may very well be a better fit and would allow the younger guy more free reign leading the bench unit. 

I actually think moving Brown to the bench would do him a lot of good and would also help Smart, so I'd start Irving, Smart, Hayward, Tatum, and Horford and let Brown have a bit more free reign and a more defined role where he can have the ball in his hand a bit more.  Smart can then just be the defensive stopper and not worry about offense at all, which is what I think his role really should be (he tries to hard offensively on the 2nd unit).

Bring Brown and Rozier off the bench together for Irving and Tatum. Let them change the game and bring the energy.
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Re: Is Jaylen Brown still a Celtic?
« Reply #62 on: October 24, 2018, 09:26:33 AM »

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Does anybody remember Lebronís first season with the Heat? Everybody was tentative with their roles, including Lebron and Wade. Too much deference to others.

Thatís what weíre seeing here. Either Kyrie or Hayward needs to step up as the alpha.

It's what it reminds me of as well. Guys are doing fake drives where they only drive to kick it back out. They don't even reach the paint sometimes. Need a few guys to establish themselves. Kyrie has started to do it but is missing shots. Morris is doing it, but we don't want him to most of the time. Hayward might not be ready for a month or two. Tatum might not have the leeway with coaches and teammates yet. It's not Rozier's role and Brown isn't enough of a playmaker to do it. Smart can't shoot well enough.

Clearly, this is all leading to an MVP season from Yabu as soon as he realizes it's all on him.

Re: Is Jaylen Brown still a Celtic?
« Reply #63 on: October 24, 2018, 09:29:32 AM »

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will Brad put Gordon on the bench or will Gordon have to volunteer for the role?
You don't bench your best player.  Hayward is Boston's best player, he needs to be in the starting lineup.  If you tinker with the starting lineup at all you either move Tatum or Brown to the bench (for Morris or Smart).  Lesser players, but may very well be a better fit and would allow the younger guy more free reign leading the bench unit. 

I actually think moving Brown to the bench would do him a lot of good and would also help Smart, so I'd start Irving, Smart, Hayward, Tatum, and Horford and let Brown have a bit more free reign and a more defined role where he can have the ball in his hand a bit more.  Smart can then just be the defensive stopper and not worry about offense at all, which is what I think his role really should be (he tries to hard offensively on the 2nd unit).

Bring Brown and Rozier off the bench together for Irving and Tatum. Let them change the game and bring the energy.

Not a bad strategy. The starting backcourt of last year's conference finals team coming off your bench together. Smart bolstering the first unit's defense. Could be the plan.

Re: Is Jaylen Brown still a Celtic?
« Reply #64 on: October 24, 2018, 09:52:49 AM »

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will Brad put Gordon on the bench or will Gordon have to volunteer for the role?
You don't bench your best player.  Hayward is Boston's best player, he needs to be in the starting lineup.  If you tinker with the starting lineup at all you either move Tatum or Brown to the bench (for Morris or Smart).  Lesser players, but may very well be a better fit and would allow the younger guy more free reign leading the bench unit. 

I actually think moving Brown to the bench would do him a lot of good and would also help Smart, so I'd start Irving, Smart, Hayward, Tatum, and Horford and let Brown have a bit more free reign and a more defined role where he can have the ball in his hand a bit more.  Smart can then just be the defensive stopper and not worry about offense at all, which is what I think his role really should be (he tries to hard offensively on the 2nd unit).

Bring Brown and Rozier off the bench together for Irving and Tatum. Let them change the game and bring the energy.
I think that team is way too small with Rozier, Smart, Hayward, Brown, and Horford.  Now maybe you also bring Morris in for Hayward at the same time and that might work.

Re: Is Jaylen Brown still a Celtic?
« Reply #65 on: October 24, 2018, 01:07:01 PM »

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I think if Brown or Tatum go to the bench they would be replaced by Around Baynes rather than Morris or Smart. Baynes off/on court defensive numbers are unreal. Stevens moving a great defender into the lineup while sending a young scorer to the bench would seem to make sense.

That said, I don't think Stevens does it. I think he is hoping his current small lineup will get so well offensively that over teams will change to try to stop them.

Re: Is Jaylen Brown still a Celtic?
« Reply #66 on: October 24, 2018, 01:24:40 PM »

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I think if Brown or Tatum go to the bench they would be replaced by Around Baynes rather than Morris or Smart. Baynes off/on court defensive numbers are unreal. Stevens moving a great defender into the lineup while sending a young scorer to the bench would seem to make sense.

That said, I don't think Stevens does it. I think he is hoping his current small lineup will get so well offensively that over teams will change to try to stop them.

exactly, IF they could actually gel and all play to their potential then the opponent would have to adjust, just hasn't happened yet.  did anyone notice that last pre-season we played really well, ball movement was great.  I was really excited then but this preseason it didn't look as good.  we expected them to turn it around once the regular season starts, not yet

Re: Is Jaylen Brown still a Celtic?
« Reply #67 on: October 24, 2018, 01:27:29 PM »

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Re: Is Jaylen Brown still a Celtic?
« Reply #68 on: October 26, 2018, 06:22:59 AM »

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He looks so lost out there.  I really think he needs to come off the bench with Smart starting.  The starters could use Smart's toughness and Brown just needs to be in a spot where he is more the focal point so he can get the touches he needs to find his groove.

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« Reply #69 on: October 26, 2018, 06:26:10 AM »

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He looks so lost out there.  I really think he needs to come off the bench with Smart starting.  The starters could use Smart's toughness and Brown just needs to be in a spot where he is more the focal point so he can get the touches he needs to find his groove.
This is we're I'm at too. I think Brown is the one from the starters that should be on the bench, for either Baynes or Smart. I think he got too used to getting lots of shots early with Kyrie and GH down, and hasn't adjusted to being the 4th/5th option

Re: Is Jaylen Brown still a Celtic?
« Reply #70 on: October 27, 2018, 08:28:11 PM »

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Brown finally looks good.  Don't think it is a coincidence that he is getting a lot of touches as Irving is taking a back seat a bit.  For that reason, I do think Brown should be coming off the bench when he will have a lot more free reign to shoot.

Re: Is Jaylen Brown still a Celtic?
« Reply #71 on: October 27, 2018, 08:35:33 PM »

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Re: Is Jaylen Brown still a Celtic?
« Reply #72 on: October 27, 2018, 09:29:53 PM »

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Yes. Yes he is.
and that is a good thing for the celtics.
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Re: Is Jaylen Brown still a Celtic?
« Reply #73 on: October 27, 2018, 09:32:33 PM »

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Before tonight Jaylen was 8th on the team in touches. Could be a reason he has struggled after being a #2 option last year.

Re: Is Jaylen Brown still a Celtic?
« Reply #74 on: October 28, 2018, 08:51:45 AM »

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Before tonight Jaylen was 8th on the team in touches. Could be a reason he has struggled after being a #2 option last year.
This is what I've been saying and why I don't like Brown starting.  He is a better player when he has the ball more and he just isn't going to have many nights where he is getting the ball a lot in the starting unit.

 

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