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Re: Thoughts of 2nd game
« Reply #15 on: October 20, 2018, 09:33:51 AM »

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I've been a pretty big apologist for Kyrie Irving, but this was the worst defensive effort I've seen from him. He consistently got stuck on screens, lost his guy getting open for threes, and was taken advantage of in mismatches.

Given that it is the second game of the season and he is coming back from injury, I'll give him considerable leeway. He should improve throughout the rest of the year. I just wanted to point out (for all the Irving-haters) that there is an in-between ground between Kyrie-hate and Kyrie-fanaticism. 

I thought the same thing about Hayward, but not to the same extent.

I also thought that the Raptors had pretty obvious potential to be a very scary team defensively. They weren't there yet, but there were possessions where they looked awesome.


I agree on Kyrie's defense. He was trying, the effort was there, but he seemed lost in our defensive schemes and let VanVleet abuse him.

Re: Thoughts of 2nd game
« Reply #16 on: October 20, 2018, 09:36:44 AM »

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I thought the Celtics struggled much more with the new officiating changes than the Raptors did, and it threw off their flow. For example, the quick two foul calls Horford got when he tried to roll after setting a pick, and rolled into a incoming defender. That was not an offensive foul in the past, its a new wrinkle in how the NBA is calling stuff this season.

Also the 14 second shot clock reset after an offensive rebound instead of 24 seconds hurt us a few times, as did the increased emphasis on hand-checking on offense. Guys where just doing what they are used to always doing, and getting called for fouls all over the place. They will adjust to the new rule interpretations, it will just take some time.

Re: Thoughts of 2nd game
« Reply #17 on: October 20, 2018, 10:04:23 AM »

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My biggest takeaway from the game was that Hayward is a dang stud.  Heís not nearly all the way back yet you saw what he will be in a month or two.  People saying he was our best player before the injury may be right.  Solid defender, steady playmaker, that can absolutely get his at any time.

Re: Thoughts of 2nd game
« Reply #18 on: October 20, 2018, 10:15:39 AM »

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The big takeaway for me is that Tatum knows how to g t a shot off any time; he doesn't know when to put the ball in the hands of veterans late in the 4th during a scoring drought that could determine the game. He just doesn't have the feel yet. Absolutely gifted, but a ways to go to lead for a stretch. It was a bit Gerald Green for a stretch there.

Re: Thoughts of 2nd game
« Reply #19 on: October 20, 2018, 10:48:33 AM »

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Basically, my thoughts are WE SUCK.

Re: Thoughts of 2nd game
« Reply #20 on: October 20, 2018, 10:58:34 AM »

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And again, Marcus Smart and his Kobe acting. Wow, some things just never change.

Re: Thoughts of 2nd game
« Reply #21 on: October 20, 2018, 11:08:51 AM »

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11 TOs killed us in the first half.

Re: Thoughts of 2nd game
« Reply #22 on: October 20, 2018, 11:10:46 AM »

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Re: Thoughts of 2nd game
« Reply #23 on: October 20, 2018, 11:42:48 AM »

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And again, Marcus Smart and his Kobe acting. Wow, some things just never change.

I know it's his well deserved reputation, but he only took 6 shots after taking just 4 on Tuesday.  Most of these shots were wide open.  He took the fewest number of shots of everyone that played last night and dished out 6 assists.  That's what we want from him.

Re: Thoughts of 2nd game
« Reply #24 on: October 20, 2018, 11:44:30 AM »

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My biggest takeaway from the game was that Hayward is a dang stud.  Heís not nearly all the way back yet you saw what he will be in a month or two.  People saying he was our best player before the injury may be right.  Solid defender, steady playmaker, that can absolutely get his at any time.

Yes. Really looking forward to seeing Hayward in June. He showed a few flashes last night. Just wait.

Re: Thoughts of 2nd game
« Reply #25 on: October 20, 2018, 11:50:08 AM »

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Disappointing to lose, of course. Then again, I don’t think Ibaka, Green, and VanVleet can play much better, we were on their court, and we were in iif until the last couple of minutes. I think we will figure out how to defend them, and as Gordon rounds into full form we will be the better team. Just more talent.

Re: Thoughts of 2nd game
« Reply #26 on: October 20, 2018, 11:55:19 AM »

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And again, Marcus Smart and his Kobe acting. Wow, some things just never change.

I know it's his well deserved reputation, but he only took 6 shots after taking just 4 on Tuesday.  Most of these shots were wide open.  He took the fewest number of shots of everyone that played last night and dished out 6 assists.  That's what we want from him.

My problem is not with the number of shots he took, its that almost all of them were early in the shot clock. He didn't give the offense a chance to run anything.

Re: Thoughts of 2nd game
« Reply #27 on: October 20, 2018, 12:31:21 PM »

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And again, Marcus Smart and his Kobe acting. Wow, some things just never change.

I know it's his well deserved reputation, but he only took 6 shots after taking just 4 on Tuesday.  Most of these shots were wide open.  He took the fewest number of shots of everyone that played last night and dished out 6 assists.  That's what we want from him.

My problem is not with the number of shots he took, its that almost all of them were early in the shot clock. He didn't give the offense a chance to run anything.

Yeah, that wasn't a great night for Marcus. He also had a pretty subpar post-up. That's actually something he should do better.

The defense also played him intelligently - went under picks, or gave him room when he was near the 3-pt line. Weirdest thing about Marcus is a lot of teams actually guard his shot, which lets him penetrate and dish more assists.

Re: Thoughts of 2nd game
« Reply #28 on: October 20, 2018, 12:49:22 PM »

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3.Kawhi didn't look like a superstar, very solid all-star level wing to me, not a good passer so we
   can consider to double when he switch on Kyrie or whoever need help

You must have feel asleep at the start of the second half when he was dominating us.

I think they have acclimated to the their new talent faster than we have to our returning talent.  I think we will be fine.

But it is clear to me, that they are a much bigger threat to us than Philly which is a pretender not a contender.
We keep the lead until the middle of third quarter and it's no more than 5 point until the end of 4th
Guess he is dominating in your head instead

He didnít say the Raptors dominated us through the second half. Leonard was nearly unstoppable, though.

Re: Thoughts of 2nd game
« Reply #29 on: October 20, 2018, 01:13:54 PM »

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3.Kawhi didn't look like a superstar, very solid all-star level wing to me, not a good passer so we
   can consider to double when he switch on Kyrie or whoever need help

You must have feel asleep at the start of the second half when he was dominating us.

I think they have acclimated to the their new talent faster than we have to our returning talent.  I think we will be fine.

But it is clear to me, that they are a much bigger threat to us than Philly which is a pretender not a contender.
We keep the lead until the middle of third quarter and it's no more than 5 point until the end of 4th
Guess he is dominating in your head instead

He didnít say the Raptors dominated us through the second half. Leonard was nearly unstoppable, though.
Again i don't know what others think by "dominating" or "unstoppable" but to me we didn't double him and shooting 40% , 25shots to get 31pt, 3ast 3to isn't really dominating or unstoppable to me

 

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