Poll: Sign Rozier to a 4 year 80 million dollar contact

[KG Living Legend]

 I was down for 5 years 70 million.  I'm in for 80 million of someone else's money. Really though we all contribute to that 80 million. So let's pull for Wyc to spend it all.

[Roy H.]

Too much risk for a backup.

[gouki88]

No chance, that’s an enormous overpay. Try and S&T him if he wants that after the season is over

[positivitize]

Nah. Keep him and win a championship or S&T him for a young, cost-controlled, bench player.

If Rozier wants to go start somewhere, good for him. I hope he makes Evan Turner money on a team like the Suns.

[playdream]

Not until he shows more consistent and can actually run an offense

[BitterJim]

Rozier is not worth $20 million/year right now. If he has an outstanding year, he might be next summer, but if he has a poor year he'll be worth way less. Why would we lock him in for his best case scenario now, when we can match anything in July if we really want to?

It makes no sense for us to extend him now unless we are getting a discount, and it seems like he wants to bet on himself this year. There's no chance a deal gets done this week, especially not one for $20 million a year

[KG Living Legend]

Rozier is not worth $20 million/year right now. If he has an outstanding year, he might be next summer, but if he has a poor year he'll be worth way less. Why would we lock him in for his best case scenario now, when we can match anything in July if we really want to?

It makes no sense for us to extend him now unless we are getting a discount, and it seems like he wants to bet on himself this year. There's no chance a deal gets done this week, especially not one for $20 million a year

 I really think we can settle around the 16 million per range. 4 years 64 million should get it done. It is Danny's guy. He's secret weapon. His pet project.

[Hoopvortex]

Rozier is not worth $20 million/year right now. If he has an outstanding year, he might be next summer, but if he has a poor year he'll be worth way less. Why would we lock him in for his best case scenario now, when we can match anything in July if we really want to?

It makes no sense for us to extend him now unless we are getting a discount, and it seems like he wants to bet on himself this year. There's no chance a deal gets done this week, especially not one for $20 million a year

 I really think we can settle around the 16 million per range. 4 years 64 million should get it done. It is Danny's guy. He's secret weapon. His pet project.

I never have a good sense about these salary questions.

Social scientists tell us that happiness increases as your income goes up - but the effect is only significant up to $75,000 per year. I admit I tend to have a certain reaction to players who place money over playing on a great team for a great organization that contends for a championship. I suppose I ought to get over myself...

As for your second point, it's an old NBA truism that GM's (or PoBO's, whatever) have blind love for their draft picks, and, as lovers do, overlook their faults. My take on Danny Ainge is that he's got the good sense (not to mention the wise men he consults with) to cut ties if the price isn't right.

I'm like everyone else, I get attached to certain players. I freely admit that I prefer players who have great joint movement (like Terry), who get up into their man on defense (like Rozier), and who fanatically work at their game (such as, for example, Scary Terry).

I'm really encouraged by the Terry Rozier I saw in pre-season; he's been working on the holes in his game, and was trying that work out in the Charlotte and Cleveland games: finishing in the lane, finding teammates for an assist, and hitting open midrange jumpers.

In pre-season the team also experimented with Rozier and Irving on the floor together, something we saw very little of last season. We shall see; I'm doubtful that that's going to work - but if they could pull it off it would be huge for Terry's future in Boston.

[Big333223]

I think the best case scenario is he stays on this year, helps the C's win a championship and then goes in a sign-and-trade. I know the rules for sign-and-trades have changed so they're hard to pull off now so I don't know how realistic that is but the money he's going to demand isn't going to make sense while the C's have Kyrie and Smart.

[ederson]

I think the best case scenario is he stays on this year, helps the C's win a championship and then goes in a sign-and-trade. I know the rules for sign-and-trades have changed so they're hard to pull off now so I don't know how realistic that is but the money he's going to demand isn't going to make sense while the C's have Kyrie and Smart.

i am probably wrong here but i think in a sign and trade we cannot offer him that much money

[BitterJim]

Rozier is not worth $20 million/year right now. If he has an outstanding year, he might be next summer, but if he has a poor year he'll be worth way less. Why would we lock him in for his best case scenario now, when we can match anything in July if we really want to?

It makes no sense for us to extend him now unless we are getting a discount, and it seems like he wants to bet on himself this year. There's no chance a deal gets done this week, especially not one for $20 million a year

 I really think we can settle around the 16 million per range. 4 years 64 million should get it done. It is Danny's guy. He's secret weapon. His pet project.

I don't see why Rozier would agree to that, though, if he thinks he can get more this summer. He can always choose to take a discount and stay if he wants to

[celticshistory]

Hi everyone. long time reader, first time poster. I decided to sign up with the 2018 season starting.  I have been thinking about what the Celtics should do with Rozier and as much as I like the idea of having him as insurance for Irving's health and possible departure next summer, it seems the best plan would be to trade him and get a longer term asset for him.  The move I would be in favor of would be Rozier and possibly the Memphis+Boston picks for a first round unprotected Suns pick.  Let's say Irving resigns next summer, Celtics would have a nice top 3 pick on a rookie scale contract for 4 years rather than a 4 year Rozier contract for 60-80 million dollars. Celtics could also sign a vet PG(jarret jack, ramon sessions?) for backup purposes. Coupled with the Kings pick, potentially 2 top 5 picks would be quite a haul to try and get Anthony Davis or Towns.  I think with the presence of Irving, Smart, Hayward and Horford to run the offense thru, Rozier would be expendable for this season.  Remember that the 2007-08 Celtics won the title with a 2nd year Rondo and spot up Eddie House running the point.  It is nice to be a member on this board and I am looking forward to this potentially great season !

[knuckleballer]

Hi everyone. long time reader, first time poster. I decided to sign up with the 2018 season starting.  I have been thinking about what the Celtics should do with Rozier and as much as I like the idea of having him as insurance for Irving's health and possible departure next summer, it seems the best plan would be to trade him and get a longer term asset for him.  The move I would be in favor of would be Rozier and possibly the Memphis+Boston picks for a first round unprotected Suns pick.  Let's say Irving resigns next summer, Celtics would have a nice top 3 pick on a rookie scale contract for 4 years rather than a 4 year Rozier contract for 60-80 million dollars. Celtics could also sign a vet PG(jarret jack, ramon sessions?) for backup purposes. Coupled with the Kings pick, potentially 2 top 5 picks would be quite a haul to try and get Anthony Davis or Towns.  I think with the presence of Irving, Smart, Hayward and Horford to run the offense thru, Rozier would be expendable for this season.  Remember that the 2007-08 Celtics won the title with a 2nd year Rondo and spot up Eddie House running the point.  It is nice to be a member on this board and I am looking forward to this potentially great season !

I can't imagine Phoenix doing that trade without protections.  Also, we would need to trade out matching salary for Davis.

I'm looking forward to this season too.  Only two days away!

[Hoopvortex]

Hi everyone. long time reader, first time poster. I decided to sign up with the 2018 season starting.  I have been thinking about what the Celtics should do with Rozier and as much as I like the idea of having him as insurance for Irving's health and possible departure next summer, it seems the best plan would be to trade him and get a longer term asset for him.  The move I would be in favor of would be Rozier and possibly the Memphis+Boston picks for a first round unprotected Suns pick.  Let's say Irving resigns next summer, Celtics would have a nice top 3 pick on a rookie scale contract for 4 years rather than a 4 year Rozier contract for 60-80 million dollars. Celtics could also sign a vet PG(jarret jack, ramon sessions?) for backup purposes. Coupled with the Kings pick, potentially 2 top 5 picks would be quite a haul to try and get Anthony Davis or Towns.  I think with the presence of Irving, Smart, Hayward and Horford to run the offense thru, Rozier would be expendable for this season.  Remember that the 2007-08 Celtics won the title with a 2nd year Rondo and spot up Eddie House running the point.  It is nice to be a member on this board and I am looking forward to this potentially great season !

Welcome!

[kraidstar]

Hi everyone. long time reader, first time poster. I decided to sign up with the 2018 season starting.  I have been thinking about what the Celtics should do with Rozier and as much as I like the idea of having him as insurance for Irving's health and possible departure next summer, it seems the best plan would be to trade him and get a longer term asset for him.  The move I would be in favor of would be Rozier and possibly the Memphis+Boston picks for a first round unprotected Suns pick.  Let's say Irving resigns next summer, Celtics would have a nice top 3 pick on a rookie scale contract for 4 years rather than a 4 year Rozier contract for 60-80 million dollars. Celtics could also sign a vet PG(jarret jack, ramon sessions?) for backup purposes. Coupled with the Kings pick, potentially 2 top 5 picks would be quite a haul to try and get Anthony Davis or Towns.  I think with the presence of Irving, Smart, Hayward and Horford to run the offense thru, Rozier would be expendable for this season.  Remember that the 2007-08 Celtics won the title with a 2nd year Rondo and spot up Eddie House running the point.  It is nice to be a member on this board and I am looking forward to this potentially great season !

Is hazing allowed on this forum? 

eh, I guess I'll be nice and "haze" you with a TP.