Kyrie is Staying if he wants a 5 year Deal LoL

[greece66]

I don't see that tweet being about his contract at all.

Kyrie gets a five year max from us. Not even a question or an after thought.

This.

I mean, cmon.  Gotta pay The Big Pythagoras.  Have to.

Why are ppl calling Irving this? Is it a flat earth thing?

[gouki88]

We’re only about a year removed from wondering if Rozier can be a valuable bench piece and now we’re talking about letting Kyrie walk because of him. Impressive work.

If you check the voting on the poll that is basically just this thread rehashed, you can see that most people aren't entertaining that idea

Still 9 too many people voting Rozier.

Ha, TP. Can't win them all.

Probably the same fans who think KI sucks

[CelticsElite]

Wron thread

[Androslav]

I feel like this thread is a reflex toward the IT and his contract wishes.
Well, Kyrie is not IT.

Reminder: we got him for basically Crowder and Sexton. I have a funny feeling we won that trade too.

[Sophomore]

I don't see that tweet being about his contract at all.

Kyrie gets a five year max from us. Not even a question or an after thought.

This.

I mean, cmon.  Gotta pay The Big Pythagoras.  Have to.

Why are ppl calling Irving this? Is it a flat earth thing?

Lol - gotta be, right?

[Surferdad]

I don't see that tweet being about his contract at all.

Kyrie gets a five year max from us. Not even a question or an after thought.

This.

I mean, cmon.  Gotta pay The Big Pythagoras.  Have to.

Why are ppl calling Irving this? Is it a flat earth thing?

Lol - gotta be, right?

Yes.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pythagoras

[Androslav]

I don't see that tweet being about his contract at all.

Kyrie gets a five year max from us. Not even a question or an after thought.

This.

I mean, cmon.  Gotta pay The Big Pythagoras.  Have to.

Why are ppl calling Irving this? Is it a flat earth thing?

Lol - gotta be, right?

Yes.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pythagoras

Big Pythagoras sounds like one of Shaq's nicknames that didn't make his top 100 nicknames cut. It doesn't really fit Kyrie. Kyrie is not big and also...

The Pythagorean school was associated with the Spherical Earth theory some 2500 years ago. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spherical_Earth

"Pythagoras
Early Greek philosophers alluded to a spherical Earth, though with some ambiguity.[39] Pythagoras (6th century BC) was among those said to have originated the idea, but this might reflect the ancient Greek practice of ascribing every discovery to one or another of their ancient wise men.[36] Some idea of the sphericity of the Earth seems to have been known to both Parmenides and Empedocles in the 5th century BC,[40] and although the idea cannot reliably be ascribed to Pythagoras,[41] it might nevertheless have been formulated in the Pythagorean school in the 5th century BC[36][40] although some disagree.[42] After the 5th century BC, no Greek writer of repute thought the world was anything but round.[39]"

So no real flat Earth connection there too.

If I had to nickname Kyrie, I'd go with the "Matchstick man"
The way he tricks guys with his quick hands is cheating by itself.

[johnnygreen]

 Rozier tweeted something like Pay me now or it's gonna cost you double. For example if we can lock up Terry for 5 years 70 million is there anyone that would really pay Kyrie 5 years at 200 million plus?

 I think Kyrie would be making 43 million per Year by the end of his contract. He's missed about 25% of his career games. Just can't see Danny doing this although Wyc probably wants to.

 If Rozier will agree to a contract similar to what I've proposed look for Irving to be gone by the deadline just a prediction in my opinion.

I feel like a 5 year $70 million contract for Rozier is basically double the amount he is currently worth. Is your proposal to overpay for Rozier, and not pay market value for Kyrie? Even after Kyrie basically verbally commits to Boston (in non-contract terms), we still get threads like this, which is no surprise at all.

[nickagneta]

 Rozier tweeted something like Pay me now or it's gonna cost you double. For example if we can lock up Terry for 5 years 70 million is there anyone that would really pay Kyrie 5 years at 200 million plus?

 I think Kyrie would be making 43 million per Year by the end of his contract. He's missed about 25% of his career games. Just can't see Danny doing this although Wyc probably wants to.

 If Rozier will agree to a contract similar to what I've proposed look for Irving to be gone by the deadline just a prediction in my opinion.

I feel like a 5 year $70 million contract for Rozier is basically double the amount he is currently worth. Is your proposal to overpay for Rozier, and not pay market value for Kyrie? Even after Kyrie basically verbally commits to Boston (in non-contract terms), we still get threads like this, which is no surprise at all.

If Smart is worth 4 years for $52 million, then Rozier is worth at least the equal of that if not more. 4 years at $56 million or 5 years at $70 million sounds about right for Rozier.

[Androslav]

 Rozier tweeted something like Pay me now or it's gonna cost you double. For example if we can lock up Terry for 5 years 70 million is there anyone that would really pay Kyrie 5 years at 200 million plus?

 I think Kyrie would be making 43 million per Year by the end of his contract. He's missed about 25% of his career games. Just can't see Danny doing this although Wyc probably wants to.

 If Rozier will agree to a contract similar to what I've proposed look for Irving to be gone by the deadline just a prediction in my opinion.

I feel like a 5 year $70 million contract for Rozier is basically double the amount he is currently worth. Is your proposal to overpay for Rozier, and not pay market value for Kyrie? Even after Kyrie basically verbally commits to Boston (in non-contract terms), we still get threads like this, which is no surprise at all.

If Smart is worth 4 years for $52 million, then Rozier is worth at least the equal of that if not more. 4 years at $56 million or 5 years at $70 million sounds about right for Rozier.

72-76 mil for 4 years is my approximation.
He projects as a starter on his next contact.
Starters get paid.

[johnnygreen]

 Rozier tweeted something like Pay me now or it's gonna cost you double. For example if we can lock up Terry for 5 years 70 million is there anyone that would really pay Kyrie 5 years at 200 million plus?

 I think Kyrie would be making 43 million per Year by the end of his contract. He's missed about 25% of his career games. Just can't see Danny doing this although Wyc probably wants to.

 If Rozier will agree to a contract similar to what I've proposed look for Irving to be gone by the deadline just a prediction in my opinion.

I feel like a 5 year $70 million contract for Rozier is basically double the amount he is currently worth. Is your proposal to overpay for Rozier, and not pay market value for Kyrie? Even after Kyrie basically verbally commits to Boston (in non-contract terms), we still get threads like this, which is no surprise at all.

If Smart is worth 4 years for $52 million, then Rozier is worth at least the equal of that if not more. 4 years at $56 million or 5 years at $70 million sounds about right for Rozier.

I like Rozier, and appreciate what he brings to this team. However, he only started in 16 games in his career as the result of an injury to Kyrie. I guess you could argue he has an elite rebounding skill for a PG of his size. However, there is no question regarding Smart being an elite defender regardless of his size or position. I have no doubt that Rozier will get paid, but it will be elsewhere as Danny picked his backup in Smart. I just think $70M for 5 years is an overpay for his skill set. I think his ability to run a team is sufficient in spurts as a backup, but not necessarily for a starting PG. I view him more as an undersized SG.

[Sophomore]

I see no reason TR couldn't be a league-average or slightly below PG. We are a little spoiled in Boston right now. TR isn't Kyrie, but then most PGs aren't.

[nickagneta]

 Rozier tweeted something like Pay me now or it's gonna cost you double. For example if we can lock up Terry for 5 years 70 million is there anyone that would really pay Kyrie 5 years at 200 million plus?

 I think Kyrie would be making 43 million per Year by the end of his contract. He's missed about 25% of his career games. Just can't see Danny doing this although Wyc probably wants to.

 If Rozier will agree to a contract similar to what I've proposed look for Irving to be gone by the deadline just a prediction in my opinion.

I feel like a 5 year $70 million contract for Rozier is basically double the amount he is currently worth. Is your proposal to overpay for Rozier, and not pay market value for Kyrie? Even after Kyrie basically verbally commits to Boston (in non-contract terms), we still get threads like this, which is no surprise at all.

If Smart is worth 4 years for $52 million, then Rozier is worth at least the equal of that if not more. 4 years at $56 million or 5 years at $70 million sounds about right for Rozier.

I like Rozier, and appreciate what he brings to this team. However, he only started in 16 games in his career as the result of an injury to Kyrie. I guess you could argue he has an elite rebounding skill for a PG of his size. However, there is no question regarding Smart being an elite defender regardless of his size or position. I have no doubt that Rozier will get paid, but it will be elsewhere as Danny picked his backup in Smart. I just think $70M for 5 years is an overpay for his skill set. I think his ability to run a team is sufficient in spurts as a backup, but not necessarily for a starting PG. I view him more as an undersized SG.

Oh, I am not saying Ainge should sign Rozier, especially if Smart isn't traded and Kyrie is re-signed. But if an all time worst shooter ever who is a great defender is worth $13 million a year, then Rozier due to his offense, lack of turnovers and decent defense is worth about the same amount of money.

[Sophomore]

I don't see that tweet being about his contract at all.

Kyrie gets a five year max from us. Not even a question or an after thought.

This.

I mean, cmon.  Gotta pay The Big Pythagoras.  Have to.

Why are ppl calling Irving this? Is it a flat earth thing?

Lol - gotta be, right?

Yes.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pythagoras

Big Pythagoras sounds like one of Shaq's nicknames that didn't make his top 100 nicknames cut. It doesn't really fit Kyrie. Kyrie is not big and also...

The Pythagorean school was associated with the Spherical Earth theory some 2500 years ago. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spherical_Earth

"Pythagoras
Early Greek philosophers alluded to a spherical Earth, though with some ambiguity.[39] Pythagoras (6th century BC) was among those said to have originated the idea, but this might reflect the ancient Greek practice of ascribing every discovery to one or another of their ancient wise men.[36] Some idea of the sphericity of the Earth seems to have been known to both Parmenides and Empedocles in the 5th century BC,[40] and although the idea cannot reliably be ascribed to Pythagoras,[41] it might nevertheless have been formulated in the Pythagorean school in the 5th century BC[36][40] although some disagree.[42] After the 5th century BC, no Greek writer of repute thought the world was anything but round.[39]"

So no real flat Earth connection there too.

If I had to nickname Kyrie, I'd go with the "Matchstick man"
The way he tricks guys with his quick hands is cheating by itself.

I thought the flat-earth link to Pythagoras was ironic, but I admit that's obscure on top of obscure.

[Vermont Green]

So the thread started I think by asking if we are better off signing Rozier for 4 years $70M or Kyrie for 5 years and $200M.  That is a tough one.  Kyrie is a true star and will probably get his money from the Celtics.  Rozier is great and may be a better value, but there are guys coming out of college every year that can do what Rozier can do (or at least what he has done so far).

Then this morphed into a question about who was worth more, Smart or Rozier.  So far, Smart has been a better player.  This may change in the future but if Rozier does top Smart, it will be amazing how quickly that Smart's contract went from oooou, that is too much to, wow, what a bargin.