Jimmy Butler (Merged Threads)

[DefenseWinsChamps]

I just read a rumor of Covington and Fultz for Butler. That makes the 76ers much better.

It makes sense for both teams. Source?

[celticsclay]

So they would have ended up trading Tatum and Covington and a probably lottery pick of one year of Butler? Talk about destroying the process with one move.

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I just read a rumor of Covington and Fultz for Butler. That makes the 76ers much better.

It makes sense for both teams. Source?

Not sure how this impacts this trade idea but...

Did everyone already know (except me) that Fultz is now starting ar SG and JJ is coming off the bench?  I just read it right now.  Maybe I am just not paying any attention to teams other than the C's.  Hint, I'm not.

https://clutchpoints.com/sixers-news-brett-brown-consulted-with-manu-ginobili-gregg-popovich-before-sliding-j-j-redick-into-6th-man-role/

Yes I think that makes the sixers a lot better especially if the sixers are playing small and playing both Reddick and Butler.

[celticsclay]

I just read a rumor of Covington and Fultz for Butler. That makes the 76ers much better.

It makes sense for both teams. Source?

Not sure how this impacts this trade idea but...

Did everyone already know (except me) that Fultz is now starting ar SG and JJ is coming off the bench?  I just read it right now.  Maybe I am just not paying any attention to teams other than the C's.

https://clutchpoints.com/sixers-news-brett-brown-consulted-with-manu-ginobili-gregg-popovich-before-sliding-j-j-redick-into-6th-man-role/

Yes I think that makes the sixers a lot better especially if the sixers are playing small and playing both Reddick and Butler.

From what I have read they had not committed to that for the season, but it was something they were considering giving some run in the preseason to see if it is worth doing in the regular season. Reddick would be better as a bench player at this point in his career. He is 34 and we really targeted him in the playoffs last year defensively. It is just a matter of whether Fultz will shoot (he hit a 3 yesterday) and whether he is ready on defense.

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I just read a rumor of Covington and Fultz for Butler. That makes the 76ers much better.

It makes sense for both teams. Source?

Not sure how this impacts this trade idea but...

Did everyone already know (except me) that Fultz is now starting ar SG and JJ is coming off the bench?  I just read it right now.  Maybe I am just not paying any attention to teams other than the C's.

https://clutchpoints.com/sixers-news-brett-brown-consulted-with-manu-ginobili-gregg-popovich-before-sliding-j-j-redick-into-6th-man-role/

Yes I think that makes the sixers a lot better especially if the sixers are playing small and playing both Reddick and Butler.

From what I have read they had not committed to that for the season, but it was something they were considering giving some run in the preseason to see if it is worth doing in the regular season. Reddick would be better as a bench player at this point in his career. He is 34 and we really targeted him in the playoffs last year defensively. It is just a matter of whether Fultz will shoot (he hit a 3 yesterday) and whether he is ready on defense.

I don't disagree with the concept at all.  I am just surprised that they are actually implementing it based on how not ready for prime time Fultz was last year.  Maybe that all changed over the summer?  Either way, I would enjoy watching Brown play against Fultz more than Brown playing against Butler at least for this year.  Philly getting Butler makes things potentially harder for us in the playoffs if we meet again.

[tazzmaniac]

I just read a rumor of Covington and Fultz for Butler. That makes the 76ers much better.

It makes sense for both teams. Source?

Not sure how this impacts this trade idea but...

Did everyone already know (except me) that Fultz is now starting ar SG and JJ is coming off the bench?  I just read it right now.  Maybe I am just not paying any attention to teams other than the C's.  Hint, I'm not.

https://clutchpoints.com/sixers-news-brett-brown-consulted-with-manu-ginobili-gregg-popovich-before-sliding-j-j-redick-into-6th-man-role/

Yes I think that makes the sixers a lot better especially if the sixers are playing small and playing both Reddick and Butler.

Coach Brown only announced that they were trying out Fultz starting and Reddick off the bench a couple hours before their 1st preseason game.  If Fultz can shoot reasonably well, I think it is a good move to get more playmaking in the starting lineup.   

[liam]

I just read a rumor of Covington and Fultz for Butler. That makes the 76ers much better.

It makes sense for both teams. Source?

Can't find source again but this was a trade idea not really a rumor as I originally stated. I believe it was a Sixers news site....

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I just read a rumor of Covington and Fultz for Butler. That makes the 76ers much better.

It makes sense for both teams. Source?

Not sure how this impacts this trade idea but...

Did everyone already know (except me) that Fultz is now starting ar SG and JJ is coming off the bench?  I just read it right now.  Maybe I am just not paying any attention to teams other than the C's.  Hint, I'm not.

https://clutchpoints.com/sixers-news-brett-brown-consulted-with-manu-ginobili-gregg-popovich-before-sliding-j-j-redick-into-6th-man-role/

Yes I think that makes the sixers a lot better especially if the sixers are playing small and playing both Reddick and Butler.

Coach Brown only announced that they were trying out Fultz starting and Reddick off the bench a couple hours before their 1st preseason game.  If Fultz can shoot reasonably well, I think it is a good move to get more playmaking in the starting lineup.

Thanks for the clarification.

I always thought that it was assumed that they needed to surround Simons and Embiid with great 3 point shooters to give Simmons room to create.  If Fultz can't regain his 3point shot then it feels like it is just two guys doing kind of the same thing.   I get it that JJ is slowing down and wasn't a def stopper even when he was younger so diminishing returns to keep him as the starter.

I guess that was my point.  I think Butler improves Philly a lot right now as in this season and next season.  Especially if Fultz is still having shooting problems.

[tazzmaniac]

The Sixers aren't in a win now situation like Toronto.  They also will have Max cap space next offseason and there are a number of good free agents that will be available including Butler.  I don't think trading Fultz and Covington for Butler makes sense.  I haven't seen anything where Butler named the Sixers as a team he'd like to be traded to so there is a good chance he'd walk after 1 season. 

[liam]

I just read a rumor of Covington and Fultz for Butler. That makes the 76ers much better.

It makes sense for both teams. Source?

Not sure how this impacts this trade idea but...

Did everyone already know (except me) that Fultz is now starting ar SG and JJ is coming off the bench?  I just read it right now.  Maybe I am just not paying any attention to teams other than the C's.  Hint, I'm not.

https://clutchpoints.com/sixers-news-brett-brown-consulted-with-manu-ginobili-gregg-popovich-before-sliding-j-j-redick-into-6th-man-role/

Yes I think that makes the sixers a lot better especially if the sixers are playing small and playing both Reddick and Butler.

Coach Brown only announced that they were trying out Fultz starting and Reddick off the bench a couple hours before their 1st preseason game.  If Fultz can shoot reasonably well, I think it is a good move to get more playmaking in the starting lineup.

Thanks for the clarification.

I always thought that it was assumed that they needed to surround Simons and Embiid with great 3 point shooters to give Simmons room to create.  If Fultz can't regain his 3point shot then it feels like it is just two guys doing kind of the same thing.   I get it that JJ is slowing down and wasn't a def stopper even when he was younger so diminishing returns to keep him as the starter.

I guess that was my point.  I think Butler improves Philly a lot right now as in this season and next season.  Especially if Fultz is still having shooting problems.

If The 76ers get Butler for Covington and Fultz then the eastern conference finals will be amazing not to mention opening night.

[gouki88]

The Sixers aren't in a win now situation like Toronto.  They also will have Max cap space next offseason and there are a number of good free agents that will be available including Butler.  I don't think trading Fultz and Covington for Butler makes sense.  I haven't seen anything where Butler named the Sixers as a team he'd like to be traded to so there is a good chance he'd walk after 1 season.

Agree. Plus, Fultz has been doing some pretty nice things so far. Would be silly to move him

[tazzmaniac]

I just read a rumor of Covington and Fultz for Butler. That makes the 76ers much better.

It makes sense for both teams. Source?

Not sure how this impacts this trade idea but...

Did everyone already know (except me) that Fultz is now starting ar SG and JJ is coming off the bench?  I just read it right now.  Maybe I am just not paying any attention to teams other than the C's.  Hint, I'm not.

https://clutchpoints.com/sixers-news-brett-brown-consulted-with-manu-ginobili-gregg-popovich-before-sliding-j-j-redick-into-6th-man-role/

Yes I think that makes the sixers a lot better especially if the sixers are playing small and playing both Reddick and Butler.

Coach Brown only announced that they were trying out Fultz starting and Reddick off the bench a couple hours before their 1st preseason game.  If Fultz can shoot reasonably well, I think it is a good move to get more playmaking in the starting lineup.

Thanks for the clarification.

I always thought that it was assumed that they needed to surround Simons and Embiid with great 3 point shooters to give Simmons room to create.  If Fultz can't regain his 3point shot then it feels like it is just two guys doing kind of the same thing.   I get it that JJ is slowing down and wasn't a def stopper even when he was younger so diminishing returns to keep him as the starter.

I guess that was my point.  I think Butler improves Philly a lot right now as in this season and next season.  Especially if Fultz is still having shooting problems.

This is the last year of Butler's contract.  There is no guarantee that he'd re-sign with the Sixers.  I agree that he should be a significant improvement on-court but there is his personality to be concerned about.  I just don't see wasting assets on a possible 1 year rental when they can go after Butler, Leonard, Middleton, etc next offseason. 

[Moranis]

I can't see the Sixers giving up Fultz for Butler.  They wouldn't include him in a Kawhi trade and Kawhi is not only better than Butler but also was at least a real possibility to re-sign in Philly.  Butler is such an unknown about next summer and I'm not sure he would like playing with Embiid who seems to have some work ethic issues.

[liam]

I can't see the Sixers giving up Fultz for Butler.  They wouldn't include him in a Kawhi trade and Kawhi is not only better than Butler but also was at least a real possibility to re-sign in Philly.  Butler is such an unknown about next summer and I'm not sure he would like playing with Embiid who seems to have some work ethic issues.

I read that Butler is seeking a super max and he can only get that with the team that trades for him....

[nickagneta]

I can't see the Sixers giving up Fultz for Butler.  They wouldn't include him in a Kawhi trade and Kawhi is not only better than Butler but also was at least a real possibility to re-sign in Philly.  Butler is such an unknown about next summer and I'm not sure he would like playing with Embiid who seems to have some work ethic issues.

I read that Butler is seeking a super max and he can only get that with the team that trades for him....

Butler is no longer eligible to get a supermax. Players are only eligible for supermax if they are on the team that originally drafted him or on a team that traded for the player while they were on their rookie contract