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Re: That was bad basketball
« Reply #15 on: July 08, 2018, 10:06:53 AM »

Offline kmart12

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Some Jabari highlights here, but pay attention to the passing from Semi and Henry to set him up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pol77JL03aE

Both of Semi's passes (at the :51 mark and the 2:02 mark in referenced video) are interesting because they were both a product of his poor ball handling. In the drive (:51), Semi got bumped off the path to the rim and, luckily, Jabari made that cut or else we would have seen a suboptimal shot attempt or he would have been forced to pick up his dribble. It's odd because that matchup favors Semi in terms of strength, but his dribbling slows him down and is so loose that he can't attack as strongly as he's physically able to.

At the 2:02 mark, he tries to go behind his back and looses the ball, resulting in a broken play that he was able to exploit due to recovering the basketball. Again, I love the passes (well executed and exemplary of his awareness), but his handle needs improvement.

That said, it's nice to see him try to do more especially given the talent he's up against.

Re: That was bad basketball
« Reply #16 on: July 08, 2018, 11:08:24 AM »

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Its summer league
.players not playing together for just one week..
C/PF-Horford, Baynes, Noel, Theis, Morris,
SF/SG- Tatum, Brown, Hayward, Smart, Semi, Clark
PG- Irving, Rozier, Larkin

Re: That was bad basketball
« Reply #17 on: July 08, 2018, 11:35:46 AM »

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People on here talk about Yabusele's potential and his certain "skill set".

Sorry, I'm just not seeing it.

He just looks real sluggish out there as a whole.
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Re: That was bad basketball
« Reply #18 on: July 08, 2018, 11:37:45 AM »

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People on here talk about Yabusele's potential and his certain "skill set".

Sorry, I'm just not seeing it.

He just looks real sluggish out there as a whole.
I agree! I just dont see him as an NBA player
C/PF-Horford, Baynes, Noel, Theis, Morris,
SF/SG- Tatum, Brown, Hayward, Smart, Semi, Clark
PG- Irving, Rozier, Larkin

Re: That was bad basketball
« Reply #19 on: July 08, 2018, 11:44:45 AM »

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People on here talk about Yabusele's potential and his certain "skill set".

Sorry, I'm just not seeing it.

He just looks real sluggish out there as a whole.
I agree! I just dont see him as an NBA player

He's not. I was high on him for a time, but expected a little more last year. Unfortunately he was about as useful as Nader on the bench, and honestly he still looks overweight IMHO. I mean we could keep him on the end of our bench but that's such a waste of 3M lol.
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Re: That was bad basketball
« Reply #20 on: July 08, 2018, 11:44:58 AM »

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Yab's first step quickness is the problem to me.  After he takes a few step, he can move and jump, but getting going is the problem. 
« Last Edit: July 08, 2018, 12:28:14 PM by knuckleballer »

Re: That was bad basketball
« Reply #21 on: July 08, 2018, 12:35:19 PM »

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So one good game people were loving Yabu and one bad game now people thrashing him? I do hope Semi bounces back next game though.

Re: That was bad basketball
« Reply #22 on: July 08, 2018, 12:41:04 PM »

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Some Jabari highlights here, but pay attention to the passing from Semi and Henry to set him up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pol77JL03aE

Both of Semi's passes (at the :51 mark and the 2:02 mark in referenced video) are interesting because they were both a product of his poor ball handling. In the drive (:51), Semi got bumped off the path to the rim and, luckily, Jabari made that cut or else we would have seen a suboptimal shot attempt or he would have been forced to pick up his dribble. It's odd because that matchup favors Semi in terms of strength, but his dribbling slows him down and is so loose that he can't attack as strongly as he's physically able to.

At the 2:02 mark, he tries to go behind his back and looses the ball, resulting in a broken play that he was able to exploit due to recovering the basketball. Again, I love the passes (well executed and exemplary of his awareness), but his handle needs improvement.

That said, it's nice to see him try to do more especially given the talent he's up against.

There’s a third one at 6:39 of the 4th, again a left-handed drive to the baseline that draws a double-team and results in a nifty interior pass in traffic to Bird.

I think that you’re underestimating his handling.
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Re: That was bad basketball
« Reply #23 on: July 08, 2018, 12:45:33 PM »

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Yab's first step quickness is the problem to me.  After he takes a few step, he can move and jump, but getting going is the problem.
Yup, along with conditioning, inconsistent jumpshot, ball handling, his will to rather go to China instead of a real basketball league and his lenght, the aforementioned explosiveness is his problem.
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Re: That was bad basketball
« Reply #24 on: July 08, 2018, 12:48:59 PM »

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Some Jabari highlights here, but pay attention to the passing from Semi and Henry to set him up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pol77JL03aE

Both of Semi's passes (at the :51 mark and the 2:02 mark in referenced video) are interesting because they were both a product of his poor ball handling. In the drive (:51), Semi got bumped off the path to the rim and, luckily, Jabari made that cut or else we would have seen a suboptimal shot attempt or he would have been forced to pick up his dribble. It's odd because that matchup favors Semi in terms of strength, but his dribbling slows him down and is so loose that he can't attack as strongly as he's physically able to.

At the 2:02 mark, he tries to go behind his back and looses the ball, resulting in a broken play that he was able to exploit due to recovering the basketball. Again, I love the passes (well executed and exemplary of his awareness), but his handle needs improvement.

That said, it's nice to see him try to do more especially given the talent he's up against.

There’s a third one at 6:39 of the 4th, again a left-handed drive to the baseline that draws a double-team and results in a nifty interior pass in traffic to Bird.

I think that you’re underestimating his handling.
I disagree, his handle is quite weak. He can get by summer league defenders but he won't be able to do anything in the NBA. Combine that with his atrocious three point shooting and you have a guy that is nothing more than an end of bench, defensive specialist. Useful, no doubt, but not a rotation guy.

Re: That was bad basketball
« Reply #25 on: July 08, 2018, 01:02:41 PM »

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I watched, but feel asleep during part of the 2nd half.  Team looked lifeless, except for Bird.  They missed Williams big time, or was that me who missed him?   ;D

miss Williams? How can you miss a player that is really yet to show up?

Re: That was bad basketball
« Reply #26 on: July 08, 2018, 01:27:51 PM »

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I watched, but feel asleep during part of the 2nd half.  Team looked lifeless, except for Bird.  They missed Williams big time, or was that me who missed him?   ;D

miss Williams? How can you miss a player that is really yet to show up?
It was a bit of sarcasm, Ogaju, but seriously, I liked his 6 minute stint in the first game and am anxious to see more.

Re: That was bad basketball
« Reply #27 on: July 08, 2018, 01:34:32 PM »

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Some Jabari highlights here, but pay attention to the passing from Semi and Henry to set him up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pol77JL03aE

Both of Semi's passes (at the :51 mark and the 2:02 mark in referenced video) are interesting because they were both a product of his poor ball handling. In the drive (:51), Semi got bumped off the path to the rim and, luckily, Jabari made that cut or else we would have seen a suboptimal shot attempt or he would have been forced to pick up his dribble. It's odd because that matchup favors Semi in terms of strength, but his dribbling slows him down and is so loose that he can't attack as strongly as he's physically able to.

At the 2:02 mark, he tries to go behind his back and looses the ball, resulting in a broken play that he was able to exploit due to recovering the basketball. Again, I love the passes (well executed and exemplary of his awareness), but his handle needs improvement.

That said, it's nice to see him try to do more especially given the talent he's up against.

There’s a third one at 6:39 of the 4th, again a left-handed drive to the baseline that draws a double-team and results in a nifty interior pass in traffic to Bird.

I think that you’re underestimating his handling.
I disagree, his handle is quite weak. He can get by summer league defenders but he won't be able to do anything in the NBA. Combine that with his atrocious three point shooting and you have a guy that is nothing more than an end of bench, defensive specialist. Useful, no doubt, but not a rotation guy.

You certainly seem sure of yourself! - and while I think that you’re wrong, I do appreciate someone who’s willing to back up their scouting with a prediction. We can revisit this in April. For now I would remind you that Semi already WAS a rotation player as a rookie. As for his 3-pt shooting, .320 for the year is hardly “atrocious”; it’s a little below league average. And .440 after the All-Star break is certainly encouraging.
'I was proud of Marcus Smart. He did a great job of keeping us together. He might not get credit for this game, but the pace that he played at, and his playcalling, some of the plays that he called were great. We obviously have to rely on him, so I’m definitely looking forward to Marcus leading this team in that role.' - Jaylen Brown, January 2021

Re: That was bad basketball
« Reply #28 on: July 08, 2018, 01:37:17 PM »

Offline kmart12

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Some Jabari highlights here, but pay attention to the passing from Semi and Henry to set him up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pol77JL03aE

Both of Semi's passes (at the :51 mark and the 2:02 mark in referenced video) are interesting because they were both a product of his poor ball handling. In the drive (:51), Semi got bumped off the path to the rim and, luckily, Jabari made that cut or else we would have seen a suboptimal shot attempt or he would have been forced to pick up his dribble. It's odd because that matchup favors Semi in terms of strength, but his dribbling slows him down and is so loose that he can't attack as strongly as he's physically able to.

At the 2:02 mark, he tries to go behind his back and looses the ball, resulting in a broken play that he was able to exploit due to recovering the basketball. Again, I love the passes (well executed and exemplary of his awareness), but his handle needs improvement.

That said, it's nice to see him try to do more especially given the talent he's up against.

There’s a third one at 6:39 of the 4th, again a left-handed drive to the baseline that draws a double-team and results in a nifty interior pass in traffic to Bird.

I think that you’re underestimating his handling.

Sure, the third pass (out of three) Semi looked in control of the basketball; however, the past season and this showing in summer league has been indicative of a player who cannot utilize their handles to create. The point I was trying to make was that two of his “good” passes were a product of not handling the ball well. If he were a better ball handler, those two plays could have ended differently (e.g., he could have finished the layup himself on that first drive instead of dropping it off to Bird). When a broken play occurs because Semi can’t dribble behind his back (see: second “good” pass), the play is a matter of chance rather than skill. It would be nice to see Semi create more for himself and for others more consistently and predictably (more along the lines of the pass you pointed out).

I don’t think Semi’s shown much beyond a flicker of defensive potential and strength at the NBA level, so I could be in the minority with my take on his game.

Re: That was bad basketball
« Reply #29 on: July 08, 2018, 01:47:31 PM »

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Yabu looks like a totaly wasted pick.
I know you can't hit them all, but...
What is his NBA skill?

That's the problem. There's nothing special about him to warrant keeping him around. He would need to become an epic shooter to justify the pick..