C's interested in James Nunnally

[Eddie20]

If you think about it, it does make a lot of sense.


* From the Sacramento Bee
With no deals imminent, the Kings will focus on the trade market, looking to take advantage of having about $17 million under the cap to absorb a contract that could land a coveted veteran small forward.

* Trade Morris to the Kings for 2 second rounders (Kings have 5 second rounders in the next 2 years and 7 in the next 3) and take back zero salary.

* Use the remaining space to sign Smart to a team friendly long term deal (4 for 40). That's a really good value as the cap is also going to rise the next few seasons.

* Sign Nunnally, who can fill the Morris role, to a Theis type deal (2 years vet minimum) Perhaps he doesn't have the 1-on-1 scoring punch Morris provides, but he looks to be the better shooter. Plus, I do worry about Morris sulking about playing time and shots.

Not sure why the Kings are giving up two seconds in this scenario, other than they are the Kings.  I’d be quite happy with it, but I think they’re hoping to earn a pick for their cap space, like Philly with Wilson Chandler, than giving up picks.

Not sure why they wouldn't. We traded Bradley and a 2nd for Morris, so thinking his value a year later would be similar isn't farfetched. The Kings have a surplus of second round picks, picks that they can't possibly use, so trading for Morris (a player that fits a need) seems to work.

My only hesitation is would Morris help them get a couple extra wins that would hurt the pick we get from them? I guess it's not as important this season with the revamped lottery odds.

[Scintan]

We need a 7 footer who can block and rebound

Then they should go after Demarcus Cou...  never mind.

[detour]

Nunnally obviously improved after "worst player in 2K" days, but I'd advise caution. He's not really a 3D wing, his defense leaves a lot to be desired even in Euroleague level. His lateral quickness is mediocre, and his slender frame prevents him from being effective in low post. His 3pt shooting is off the chart obviously, though he crumbled under pressure in final fours, this shouldn't be a problem as he wouldn't play clutch moments in NBA. About intangibles, he's a great guy, works hard, a father, and I'd really like him getting another chance in NBA... Just not with the Celtics

[vjcsmoke]

Nice shooter.  Problem is if we wanted him, wouldn't we have already signed him instead of Wanamaker who is his teammate?

[Eddie20]

Nice shooter.  Problem is if we wanted him, wouldn't we have already signed him instead of Wanamaker who is his teammate?

Different positions. A Wanamaker signing is impactful to Larkin, while Nunnally effects scrub Nader.

[Celtics4ever]

Not sure why they wouldn't. We traded Bradley and a 2nd for Morris, so thinking his value a year later would be similar isn't farfetched. The Kings have a surplus of second round picks, picks that they can't possibly use, so trading for Morris (a player that fits a need) seems to work.

My only hesitation is would Morris help them get a couple extra wins that would hurt the pick we get from them? I guess it's not as important this season with the revamped lottery odds.

I agree with the bolded part and think we would not do it for that reason.

[nickagneta]

Would rather sign Smart to a QO or deal that starts at around $7.5 million for 4 years. Say a 4 year $32 million deal. Then cut and stretch Nader and sign Nunnally. That way you keep Smart and Morris and replace Nader with Nunnally.

[Eddie20]

Would rather sign Smart to a QO or deal that starts at around $7.5 million for 4 years. Say a 4 year $32 million deal. Then cut and stretch Nader and sign Nunnally. That way you keep Smart and Morris and replace Nader with Nunnally.

We could give Smart the QU, but then he'll be unrestricted next summer and will also have a no-trade clause. 4 yrs for 32M would be awesome, for us, but obviously Smart wants a lot more, so he's not taking that.

[nickagneta]

Would rather sign Smart to a QO or deal that starts at around $7.5 million for 4 years. Say a 4 year $32 million deal. Then cut and stretch Nader and sign Nunnally. That way you keep Smart and Morris and replace Nader with Nunnally.

We could give Smart the QU, but then he'll be unrestricted next summer and will also have a no-trade clause. 4 yrs for 32M would be awesome, for us, but obviously Smart wants a lot more, so he's not taking that.

Don't care if Smart is UFA next year or not. Don't care if he has a no trade clause. If he signs for the QO, he has to prove himself worthy of getting that big paycheck, which is cool by me. Yeah, he probably may not sign the 4 year deal I proposed but he also runs the risk of getting hurt severely next year and then never getting that long term money.

Either way, I want Smart, Morris and Nunnally. I don't see dumping a proven player like Morris simply to overpay Smart and sign a guy who most likely starts as the 14th or 15th player in the rotation.

[liam]

Would rather sign Smart to a QO or deal that starts at around $7.5 million for 4 years. Say a 4 year $32 million deal. Then cut and stretch Nader and sign Nunnally. That way you keep Smart and Morris and replace Nader with Nunnally.

We could give Smart the QU, but then he'll be unrestricted next summer and will also have a no-trade clause. 4 yrs for 32M would be awesome, for us, but obviously Smart wants a lot more, so he's not taking that.

Don't care if Smart is UFA next year or not. Don't care if he has a no trade clause. If he signs for the QO, he has to prove himself worthy of getting that big paycheck, which is cool by me. Yeah, he probably may not sign the 4 year deal I proposed but he also runs the risk of getting hurt severely next year and then never getting that long term money.

Either way, I want Smart, Morris and Nunnally. I don't see dumping a proven player like Morris simply to overpay Smart and sign a guy who most likely starts as the 14th or 15th player in the rotation.

Getting injured and never getting that big payday is called "The IT Effect"

[Eddie20]

Would rather sign Smart to a QO or deal that starts at around $7.5 million for 4 years. Say a 4 year $32 million deal. Then cut and stretch Nader and sign Nunnally. That way you keep Smart and Morris and replace Nader with Nunnally.

We could give Smart the QU, but then he'll be unrestricted next summer and will also have a no-trade clause. 4 yrs for 32M would be awesome, for us, but obviously Smart wants a lot more, so he's not taking that.

Don't care if Smart is UFA next year or not. Don't care if he has a no trade clause. If he signs for the QO, he has to prove himself worthy of getting that big paycheck, which is cool by me. Yeah, he probably may not sign the 4 year deal I proposed but he also runs the risk of getting hurt severely next year and then never getting that long term money.

Either way, I want Smart, Morris and Nunnally. I don't see dumping a proven player like Morris simply to overpay Smart and sign a guy who most likely starts as the 14th or 15th player in the rotation.

You're missing a really big part of this equation and that's Morris and him being content with a massive decrease in both playing time and usage. Not only has he already questioned his role next season, but he's on an expiring deal so he'll be playing for a contract. In a perfect would he plays his 20 minutes a game during the reason season, maybe less during the playoffs, and shuts his mouth like a good solder. However, that seems far from likely and I do think he has the potential to sulk and create some issues.

[nickagneta]

Would rather sign Smart to a QO or deal that starts at around $7.5 million for 4 years. Say a 4 year $32 million deal. Then cut and stretch Nader and sign Nunnally. That way you keep Smart and Morris and replace Nader with Nunnally.

We could give Smart the QU, but then he'll be unrestricted next summer and will also have a no-trade clause. 4 yrs for 32M would be awesome, for us, but obviously Smart wants a lot more, so he's not taking that.

Don't care if Smart is UFA next year or not. Don't care if he has a no trade clause. If he signs for the QO, he has to prove himself worthy of getting that big paycheck, which is cool by me. Yeah, he probably may not sign the 4 year deal I proposed but he also runs the risk of getting hurt severely next year and then never getting that long term money.

Either way, I want Smart, Morris and Nunnally. I don't see dumping a proven player like Morris simply to overpay Smart and sign a guy who most likely starts as the 14th or 15th player in the rotation.

You're missing a really big part of this equation and that's Morris and him being content with a massive decrease in both playing time and usage. Not only has he already questioned his role next season, but he's on an expiring deal so he'll be playing for a contract. In a perfect would he plays his 20 minutes a game during the reason season, maybe less during the playoffs, and shuts his mouth like a good solder. However, that seems far from likely and I do think he has the potential to sulk and create some issues.

And I don't think Morris is going to be any more of a problem than Smart would be having to play on a QO or at a rate much less than he wants. I don't see Morris' mention of playing time being a problem being more egregious as Smart demanding to get paid big money the day after the Celtics were eliminated. Both have reputations as being great team mates so I am not worried about Morris' reaction to lesser minutes. Its a long season and if the team is healthy, EVERYONE, is going to see less minutes.