Robert Williams (Merged Threads)

[playdream]

Right now this kid is the number two in the world at jumping reach at 12ft-6

You keep saying this over and over.
 Some questions:

Where did you get that info?

Who's # 1?

Who's been tested, because I can think of guys like Davis, Giannis, Bamba, etc. that would probably surpass his numbers?

Was this done at a training institute that Williams is a client of?

First is DH
Giannis12'2" for example ,Robert 12ft-6

[rollie mass]

Jeremy evans 12 7.5

[Eddie20]

Jeremy evans 12 7.5

Well then we should probably take the measurement with a grain of salt since Evans is basically a scrub who's #1 ranking didn't translate into on-court success.

[playdream]

Jeremy evans 12 7.5

Well then we should probably take the measurement with a grain of salt since Evans is basically a scrub who's #1 ranking didn't translate into on-court success.

I mean we all know that, tools are meaningless if you don't use them, Robert has the skills

[rollie mass]

Just as important is Roberts lateral movement and power also focused on by The Director of Sports Science doing a video showing how and why Robert was unique in his ability to cover
 perimeter guards .
Robert is a prospect in an area of need ,something we have not had in a long time.After suffering through Sully,Olynck ,Zeller  and Mickey.
I will reserve judgement but am excited at possibilities  and have fun.
Who needs a pinch of salt with Eddie on the prowl.A real salty guy
.Hope he enjoyed the P3 footage.-now he will spend the rest of this season focusing on Robert Williams errors.

[Hoopvortex]

https://celticswire.usatoday.com/2018/09/15/aron-baynes-says-rookie-robert-williams-iii-has-a-great-work-ethic/

Nice quote from Baynes.  It's interesting that he values Williams' getting in shape and working out more than spending a ton of time on the court.

That said, is this quote from the Celtics Wire link accurate?

A knee-to-knee collision took Williams out of his Summer League debut during the first quarter and he hasn’t been fully healthy yet, dealing with a case of knee tendinitis.

However, by training camp, Williams could be healthy and ready to participate in all team activities.

Two months later, and he's still being slowed by his tendinitis?  That's not a great sign (again, if it's accurate).

Not a great sign, no, but not necessarily a red flag, either. It’s just not possible, it seems, to get anything definitive about this.

We know (at least if it got reported accurately) that he banged his knee in SL and got a contusion. If that was a bone bruise to his patella, that could be the source of quadriceps tendinitis; and it would make a longer recovery time more understandable. It would also explain why we’re talking about seemingly two injuries that seemed to happen at the same time.

[Eddie20]

Right now this kid is the number two in the world at jumping reach at 12ft-6

You keep saying this over and over.
 Some questions:

Where did you get that info?

Who's # 1?

Who's been tested, because I can think of guys like Davis, Giannis, Bamba, etc. that would probably surpass his numbers?

Was this done at a training institute that Williams is a client of?

Just to be clear, Williams is NOT #2 in the world in the said measurement as some have falsely claimed. The truth is a little less extreme and much more reasonable, which is he had the second highest leap at that specific performance institute. That's important because at the end of the day a business is about selling it's product, so what better way than to post some good numbers by your clients even though the numbers aren't exactly legitimate. A NBA combine test, which has no hidden agendas, carries much more weight.

The saying it's on internet, so it must be true quickly comes to mind. 


Second best mark all time at P3! 😮
Darby Rich
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@P3sportscience breaking out the bumpers to get @rob_williamsIII max vert. 12'6". #DoMore
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[rollie mass]

Combine does vertical leap not max vertical reach from standstill or with approach-Dwight Howard was number one at 12-6 at the time then Jeremy Evans who won the dunk contest came in and broke the record-did you look at Williams lateral. and the power he produces.
.You can split hairs any way you want-i posted what i posted what i read a nitpicker like you can always be counted on to correct any trivial misquotes by Texas AM .

[Eddie20]

Combine does vertical leap not max vertical reach from standstill or with approach

Here are the top 5 guys at the combine in max and standing vert.

Standing Vertical Leap
1.   Donte DiVincenzo   34.50
2.   Trevon Duval   34.00
3.   Gary Trent   33.50
4.   Josh Okogie   33.00
4.   Zhaire Smith   33.00
Max Vertical Leap
1.   Donte DiVincenzo   42.00
1.   Josh Okogie   42.00
3.   Trevon Duval   41.50
3.   Anfernee Simons   41.50
3.   Zhaire Smith

You can draw more accurate conclusions, at least free from any potential bias, by adding their respective jumping totals to their standing reach measurements.

For perspective,  Udoka Azubuike measured in with a standing reach of 9' 4.5'' and had a standing vertical of 31 inches. That's approximately 12 feet reach off a standing leap. So I would think it's fair to say he would likely beat Williams' alleged Mark if he were running.

Bamba had Azubuike by 3 inches in standing by reach, but didn't partake in any jumping drills. But with that reach he wouldn't have to jump too high to eclipse Williams either.

[rollie mass]

That is not vertical reach that is vertical leap!!!!  vertical reach is 12-ft 5 or 6
Donnie Vincenzo has about 42inch vertical that doesn't mean anything when you factor in Williams 7-6 wingspan on top of his vertical.
You don't want to get it!!! the highest vertical can come from a 6-1 guard or Spud Webb--do you get it yet
That Darby twitter was putting Williams at 2nd highest vertical reach at 12-6

[KG Living Legend]

That is not vertical reach that is vertical leap!!!!  vertical reach is 12-ft
Donnie Vincenzo has about 42inch vertical that doesn't mean anything when you factor in Williams 7-6 wingspan on top of his vertical.
You don't want to get it!!! the highest vertical can come from a 6-1 guard or Spud Webb--do you get it yet
That Darby twitter was putting Williams at 2nd highest vertical reach at 12-6

 I actually remember Dwight Howard being #1 at 12'6" Max, Vertical reach while Williams was 12'5"

[nickagneta]

No more personal jabs, Rollie. Discuss the subject not the poster

[rollie mass]

Combine does vertical leap not max vertical reach from standstill or with approach

Here are the top 5 guys at the combine in max and standing vert.

Standing Vertical Leap
1.   Donte DiVincenzo   34.50
2.   Trevon Duval   34.00
3.   Gary Trent   33.50
4.   Josh Okogie   33.00
4.   Zhaire Smith   33.00
Max Vertical Leap
1.   Donte DiVincenzo   42.00
1.   Josh Okogie   42.00
3.   Trevon Duval   41.50
3.   Anfernee Simons   41.50
3.   Zhaire Smith

You can draw more accurate conclusions, at least free from any potential bias, by adding their respective jumping totals to their standing reach measurements.

For perspective,  Udoka Azubuike measured in with a standing reach of 9' 4.5'' and had a standing vertical of 31 inches. That's approximately 12 feet reach off a standing leap. So I would think it's fair to say he would likely beat Williams' alleged Mark if he were running.

Bamba had Azubuike by 3 inches in standing by reach, but didn't partake in any jumping drills. But with that reach he wouldn't have to jump too high to eclipse Williams either.

So you think it is SAFE TO SAY he would LIKELY beat Williams alleged 12-6--the point is there is no reach figure and Jeremy Evans is number one-Dwight was at number one at the time.
And there has been controversy on combine measurements before.

[playdream]

Well it didn't really matter that much if Robert is the No.2 or 3 or 4, the point is he can reach high
and he can jump quick, on each foot and second jump, Bamba for example will never be able to do that

[rollie mass]

As to holding up Combine to some high standard 2015 had controversy and even more in 2016 as
 multiple measuring standards and recording/transcription on verical were brought into question. From memory Pat Connaughton comes to mind and his 44 inch vertical in 2015 his standing reach was recorded improperly.
Look up 2016 combine results that are considered highly unreliable in article by nbadraft.net.