semi working with Hanlon on his shooting

[RockinRyA]

Semi practicing his 3’s while fighting through defenders: https://www.instagram.com/p/BkeNbndjm1l/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=1n79l5i1u6o95

TP for that
A ROOKIE tasked with guarding some of the superstars a tireless worker and a rookie who started in NBA playoffs.
This season maybe the ref's will stop calling breath fouls on Semi, while allowing him to be mugged at the rim.
What is with motor criticism.I thought i picked up indecision at times on how to use physicality
from lack of experience and fear of the whistle.
Hanlon will wind up training Williams-His guy Tatum put him on the top of his class.

You probably couldn't notice, but Ojeleye has a poor motor, even during college. Its a flaw of his, he spends a lot of times standing around (watch Smart for contrast). He improved on that in the playoffs, but even then it wasnt great.

[gouki88]

Semi practicing his 3’s while fighting through defenders: https://www.instagram.com/p/BkeNbndjm1l/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=1n79l5i1u6o95

TP for that
A ROOKIE tasked with guarding some of the superstars a tireless worker and a rookie who started in NBA playoffs.
This season maybe the ref's will stop calling breath fouls on Semi, while allowing him to be mugged at the rim.
What is with motor criticism.I thought i picked up indecision at times on how to use physicality
from lack of experience and fear of the whistle.
Hanlon will wind up training Williams-His guy Tatum put him on the top of his class.

You probably couldn't notice, but Ojeleye has a poor motor, even during college. Its a flaw of his, he spends a lot of times standing around (watch Smart for contrast). He improved on that in the playoffs, but even then it wasnt great.

I think that may in part be due to a lack of confidence (particularly at the NBA level). As in, not being too sure with what he should do, and instead of committing to anything he just plays it safe. At least, that's what I've seen

[SHAQATTACK]

lord he sure needs to.

[Eddie20]

lord he sure needs to.

Sure does.

Hanlon is obviously into self-promotion (see Fultz), but I'm curious to view an unedited video to see how many shots he actually made/missed. Also, if Semi takes these type of shots (working his defender, using the screen, and relocating for a shot) in an actual game, Stevens will pull him out so fast Hanlon's head will spin. Regardless, barring major roster change or injuries the likes of last season, Semi is going to have an uphill battle to receive anywhere near the minutes he received in 17-18.

[rollie mass]

How dare they show Semi in a good light.What we have here is a conspiracy of self promotion.
What it shows is a Celtics player hard at work in late June getting prepared for summer league.
It seems that some posters have a bias against Semi and would like him to fail to support their views.
A 2nd round rookie starting in playoffs and hitting 44% since all star break that is on low volume but that just shows capability and improvement.
As does the Drew Hanlon footage .
A long summer before training camp  for a player to improve after his rookie season.A year under your belt and now knowing what he has to face and work on.
Semi is one of the hardest workers on squad as it has been stated by players.
Semi survived the NBA lifestyle ,the huge crowds and having to guard some of the best players in league without help from refs.Like it or not Semi played an instrumental part at times of the Celtics playoff run as a Rookie!!!!

[Big333223]

I"m pretty confident he'll become a decent shooter. This isn't a situation of someone who couldn't shoot trying to learn how. He was able to knock down the college 3 very well and was also a 79% FT shooter which is a nice bellwether for future shooting.

He has to put in the time and adjust to NBA offenses. When he's able to hit 3's with some consistency I can see him develop a Crowder-esque line drive to the hoop game as well. If he can do those things and stay hungry on defense, he'll always have a home in the NBA.

[Hoopvortex]

Semi practicing his 3’s while fighting through defenders: https://www.instagram.com/p/BkeNbndjm1l/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=1n79l5i1u6o95

TP for that
A ROOKIE tasked with guarding some of the superstars a tireless worker and a rookie who started in NBA playoffs.
This season maybe the ref's will stop calling breath fouls on Semi, while allowing him to be mugged at the rim.
What is with motor criticism.I thought i picked up indecision at times on how to use physicality
from lack of experience and fear of the whistle.
Hanlon will wind up training Williams-His guy Tatum put him on the top of his class.

You probably couldn't notice, but Ojeleye has a poor motor

I am shocked (shocked!) to find condescension on a sports fan website.

Its a flaw of his, he spends a lot of times standing around

He spends a lot of time spotting up, i.e. doing his job in the set. If he started freelancing, he’d “spend a lot of times” sitting on the bench.

Otherwise I can’t make any sense out of your strange claim.

[bellerephon]

So I’ll obviously believe in Semi as a true perimeter threat when I see it, but man would that ever be a huge development for our team going forward.

There is nothing wrong with Semi's shot.  I think he'll improve from last year just by being more comfortable with the NBA game.

Well, there is the whole thing of the shots not going in, but other than that...

But in all seriousness, I'll believe Semi can shoot when I see it in real games over an extended period of time. Making shots in practice doesn't mean anything, making shots in college doesn't mean anything. The defense is not there, the pressure is not there, so shooting is much easier. His form is okay, but until he can do it when it counts it means nothing.

As far as getting more comfortable, I really don't think he's going to play all that much. I expect his mpg to plummet to almost nothing. Looking at the roster as it stands now, Kyrie, Jaylen, Jayson, Heyward, Horford, Smart, Rozier, Morris, Baynes, Theis, Wanamaker, then maybe Semi, or maybe not if Williams is ready to play a little bit. Semi could realistically be the 13 man on this roster.

I understand that there is a possibility that some of those listed won't be around for next season, but it is also possible that there could be a new addition too. Even if he is the 10th man on the roster he would barely play. I just don't see him even getting a chance to show he has improved, unless of course there are injuries.

I don’t disagree that the casual fan can be fooled by pratice shooting, where seemingly every guy can look amazing.  But you can certainly distinguish between good and bad shooters if you know what you’re looking at.  Semis shot mevhcnics are fine and they’ll translate with more work and him getting comfortable.  Similar to Avery, who could always shoot but looked atrocious in his first couple of year.  In his case, he didn’t magically get better.  He didn’t get better with hard work.  He was already good and just needed to get comfortable and confident.  I see similar things for semi and am not at all concerned about his first year shooting numbers.

Nor am I. In fact his shooting mechanics are picture perfect, a continuous, smooth movement from ankles to fingertips. He elevates effortlessly, and you might say that effortlessness and ease are the hallmarks of his game.

percentage wise he shot just a hair under browns rookie year from 3 with less attempts.  And I actually think he has a better stroke.  he just nees more reps and court time.  he isnt a first rounder that gets the benefit of ths doubt.  for a second rounder i think he is ver promising and would expect a jaylen like jump in shooting.

And like Brown he had a big uptick after the all-star break.

Burying one three after another-can be seen over on Reddit--he is jacked
There was token pressure that Semi swatted away

He shot .440 after the all-star break, so there’s a lot of reason to be optimistic.

Last season he showed evidence of a paint repertoire, too, including finishing through contact and drives with both hands - we may hope for more of that next year! - and hope that he’s drilling that stuff too.

He has been since pre-draft. It's not a matter of hitting shots, he was doing the same last summer, it's mental now.

I think you’re right.

He will probably look a lot better next season because he seems more confident and you could see it in the playoffs.

I saw the same. Credit to Brad Stevens for finding Semi rotation minutes throughout the season, letting him play through shooting slumps and the inevitable rookie mistakes.

On 0.5 3PM/Game...

11/25 shots. I assume that you’re pointing to the small sample size - if so, point taken - which is why I said that there is reason for optimism, rather than calling him a finished product. And 3pt%s are notoriously volatile.

I'm not sure how to respond to the claim that his shot is picture perfect, it's such an obvious exaggeration that there is nothing that needs to be said. He shot looks good, but it's clearly not at the level of Curry, Tatum and other great shooters. To say his stroke is perfect suggests he is that level of shooter, which is patently absurd.

I know I come across as a Semi hater, but in truth I'm not. What he has done is very impressive, and I hope he figures out his shot and makes big contributions to the Celts. I just don't understand why so many people are so optimistic about it. I'm not saying he can't do it, I just haven't seen anything to make me think he can. Draining shots in practice is not a sign he can do it in a game.

[Hoopvortex]

Semi practicing his 3’s while fighting through defenders: https://www.instagram.com/p/BkeNbndjm1l/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=1n79l5i1u6o95

TP for that
A ROOKIE tasked with guarding some of the superstars a tireless worker and a rookie who started in NBA playoffs.
This season maybe the ref's will stop calling breath fouls on Semi, while allowing him to be mugged at the rim.
What is with motor criticism.I thought i picked up indecision at times on how to use physicality
from lack of experience and fear of the whistle.
Hanlon will wind up training Williams-His guy Tatum put him on the top of his class.

You probably couldn't notice, but Ojeleye has a poor motor, even during college. Its a flaw of his, he spends a lot of times standing around (watch Smart for contrast). He improved on that in the playoffs, but even then it wasnt great.

I think that may in part be due to a lack of confidence (particularly at the NBA level). As in, not being too sure with what he should do, and instead of committing to anything he just plays it safe. At least, that's what I've seen

That’s my interpretation, too.

[Hoopvortex]

...it's clearly not at the level of Curry, Tatum and other great shooters. To say his stroke is perfect suggests he is that level of shooter, which is patently absurd.

Wait a minute, aren’t you the one who said...

True enough, but there are also lots of guys who have great form, but still can't hit a good percentage from NBA three. It's not just about form.

...?

I know I come across as a Semi hater, but in truth I'm not.

No worries, mate. Speak your mind.

I’ll correct you if you get it wrong. 

I just don't understand why so many people are so optimistic about it.

Speaking for myself only, it’s his overall feel for the game, his 95th percentile fine motor skills, the obvious evidence of a work ethic...

 

Draining shots in practice is not a sign he can do it in a game.

True that. You have to deliver when it counts.

Having said that, I for one would sacrifice seeing a few games a year if Celtics practices were televised.

[Eddie20]

During the playoffs -

FG
10-33 
30.3%

3PT
6-22
27.3%


In addition, teams knew he's a complete offensive liability (e.g. how Lue said that Korver mirrored his minutes), so the gameplan was to leave him alone and dare him to shoot. This subsequently hurt our spacing as his man was off him and in position to help.

[rollie mass]

First half of season for any rookie is more than trying.Just acclimating to speed,length and strength,Then defensive sets, rotations, timing and studying your opponents moves.He was lost  and that was just defense.Closeouts with length and all those other areas and semi, adrenaline pumping alone in the corner was trying to steer the ball,not miss and not make mistakes .With Brad saying shoot it if your open.
I imagine Brad knows if the kid can shoot,i bet Danny knows and his teammates know .
Lets see how Semi does at Summer League and then training camp.Even in the playoffs he was hesitant as to how far he could be physical on defense.
Again -HE IS A ROOKIE-
It is not an over exaggeration to think he will improve in his 2nd year.
What makes you believe he won't!!!

[ImShakHeIsShaq]

Hanlen' is his name.



It seems like every rookie has to be good in their rookie year or that's it for some people. Semi may never improve but what happened in his rookie year won't define him.

Hanlen is suppose to advertise what he does, it's how you get other clients these days! You know who else does it (besides pretty much every trainer)? The guy who helped MJ become great! In fact, he uses MJ a lot to promote what he does, he's always telling stories about working with him! It's really interesting, plus he is very motivational and it's FREE! Social media is here to stay, sorry!
 
S/N: I know about these trainers because I follow a lot of them on IG because I try to find anything on our players during the offseason that I can. Heck, I follow all types of people with any types of videos/pictures related to any behind the scenes things that have to do with our players! I just wish we had it when Shaq was a player. I know a lot about these guys that you would never know without all the social media platforms, even it's mainly posts that are the good parts of life (there is plenty of messy to see, if you follow a lot of player's SM accounts).

 

[Hoopvortex]

During the playoffs -

FG
10-33 
30.3%

3PT
6-22
27.3%


In addition, teams knew he's a complete offensive liability (e.g. how Lue said that Korver mirrored his minutes), so the gameplan was to leave him alone and dare him to shoot. This subsequently hurt our spacing as his man was off him and in position to help.

On the whole I think that this is true.

He had a good year, contributing to an ECF team in the playoffs, and earning rotation minutes throughout the season. He’s on a bargain basement contract that is very team-friendly, which will be valuable as the payroll increases in the next couple of years.

[bellerephon]

...it's clearly not at the level of Curry, Tatum and other great shooters. To say his stroke is perfect suggests he is that level of shooter, which is patently absurd.

Wait a minute, aren’t you the one who said...

True enough, but there are also lots of guys who have great form, but still can't hit a good percentage from NBA three. It's not just about form.

...?

I know I come across as a Semi hater, but in truth I'm not.

No worries, mate. Speak your mind.

I’ll correct you if you get it wrong. 

I just don't understand why so many people are so optimistic about it.

Speaking for myself only, it’s his overall feel for the game, his 95th percentile fine motor skills, the obvious evidence of a work ethic...

 

Draining shots in practice is not a sign he can do it in a game.

True that. You have to deliver when it counts.

Having said that, I for one would sacrifice seeing a few games a year if Celtics practices were televised.

I did say it’s not all about form. It was suggested by someone that Semi’s form is perfect, as if that means he is assured of being a good shooter because someone on CelticsBlog thinks his form is so great. I suggest his form, however good, does not necessarily mean he can do it in game. I also suggest that his form is not perfect. That his form is not at the level of Curry or whatever other great shooter you want to use as a benchmark. Those two statements in no way contradict each other. From what we have seen so far I think Semi is a long shot to become a league average shooter. I hope that he proves me wrong.