Should the NBA implement this rule to prevent superteams from forming?

[Tr1boy]

call it the "Durant rule"

A player that wins the MVP or makes 1st or 2nd ALL NBA TEAM , can't sign as a UFA or RFA (coming from a different team)  with a team coming off a ECF/WCF series

this way you prevent super teams from forming

[GratefulCs]

i think the biggest issue was the massive cap spike

it'd be hard to pass the rule you 're talking about. the NBPA is strong unlike the nfl

[saltlover]

Why would the NBA do that? A lot of fans like superteams, and the free agency drama has increased the league’s overall intrigue and ratings, and therefore profit.

[Tr1boy]

i think the biggest issue was the massive cap spike

it'd be hard to pass the rule you 're talking about. the NBPA is strong unlike the nfl

But why would the NBPA oppose this rule?  Its not like it affects money (which is what they ultimately are about)

The NBA could reason that super teams are actually dropping the cap and costing players and the league money. 

[Tr1boy]

Why would the NBA do that? A lot of fans like superteams, and the free agency drama has increased the league’s overall intrigue and ratings, and therefore profit.

Because what is going on today is dropping the cap .... 

shorter series , especially finals...is a bad endgame for the NBA

[Erik]

Why would the NBA do that? A lot of fans like superteams, and the free agency drama has increased the league’s overall intrigue and ratings, and therefore profit.

Yeah, makes it easy to find which bandwagon to hop on.

[johnnygreen]

Golden State and Durant took advantage of a salary cap spike at just the right time. Unfortunately now, the cap is tied to the TV ratings, especially during the playoffs. With the way Golden State can crush teams during the playoffs, they're only devaluing the cap and thus preventing every other team from following in their footsteps.

Players are so convinced that their legacies are tied to winning championships. I definitely disagree and think it is beyond overrated at this point. To me, Golden State winning the title is the equivalent to any kid getting a participation trophy for basically just showing up. I would like to see an unwritted rule by the Hall of Fame voters, to not elect these ring chasers (like Durant) on the first or second ballot. I would basically like to see them treated like alleged steriod/HGH users in MLB, where most HOF voters refuse to vote for them.

[Tr1boy]

Golden State and Durant took advantage of a salary cap spike at just the right time. Unfortunately now, the cap is tied to the TV ratings, especially during the playoffs. With the way Golden State can crush teams during the playoffs, they're only devaluing the cap and thus preventing every other team from following in their footsteps.

Players are so convinced that their legacies are tied to winning championships. I definitely disagree and think it is beyond overrated at this point. To me, Golden State winning the title is the equivalent to any kid getting a participation trophy for basically just showing up. I would like to see an unwritted rule by the Hall of Fame voters, to not elect these ring chasers (like Durant) on the first or second ballot. I would basically like to see them treated like alleged steriod/HGH users in MLB, where most HOF voters refuse to vote for them.

A little extreme but I get your point

I couldn't believe Durant pulled a "Ray Allen" when it first happened

There is likely an asterisk beside Lebron ring wins (with Heat)  and Durant ring wings (with GSW) in peoples minds

[SparzWizard]

Golden State and Durant took advantage of a salary cap spike at just the right time. Unfortunately now, the cap is tied to the TV ratings, especially during the playoffs. With the way Golden State can crush teams during the playoffs, they're only devaluing the cap and thus preventing every other team from following in their footsteps.

Players are so convinced that their legacies are tied to winning championships. I definitely disagree and think it is beyond overrated at this point. To me, Golden State winning the title is the equivalent to any kid getting a participation trophy for basically just showing up. I would like to see an unwritted rule by the Hall of Fame voters, to not elect these ring chasers (like Durant) on the first or second ballot. I would basically like to see them treated like alleged steriod/HGH users in MLB, where most HOF voters refuse to vote for them.

Warriors bought their championship in 2017 obviously. They are about to buy another one tonight, too. I will validate their 2015 run, even though Kyrie and Love were hurt. This cancels out 2016 with Draymond Green suspended, and yada yada.

[PhoSita]

That's a silly rule.

If you want to enforce parity in the NBA, you'd need a more drastic change to how things work in the league top to bottom.

Of course, with the emphasis on player movement, I doubt the league has any interest in these types of measures.

[johnnygreen]

Golden State and Durant took advantage of a salary cap spike at just the right time. Unfortunately now, the cap is tied to the TV ratings, especially during the playoffs. With the way Golden State can crush teams during the playoffs, they're only devaluing the cap and thus preventing every other team from following in their footsteps.

Players are so convinced that their legacies are tied to winning championships. I definitely disagree and think it is beyond overrated at this point. To me, Golden State winning the title is the equivalent to any kid getting a participation trophy for basically just showing up. I would like to see an unwritted rule by the Hall of Fame voters, to not elect these ring chasers (like Durant) on the first or second ballot. I would basically like to see them treated like alleged steriod/HGH users in MLB, where most HOF voters refuse to vote for them.

Warriors bought their championship in 2017 obviously. They are about to buy another one tonight, too. I will validate their 2015 run, even though Kyrie and Love were hurt. This cancels out 2016 with Draymond Green suspended, and yada yada.

Wasn't Draymond Green suspended for only one game in the Finals in 2016 for constantly kicking guys in the nuts? This is coming from a team that has Zaza Pachulia on the roster, who took out Kawhi Leonard during the 2017 playoffs, by using a dirty play.

[Donoghus]

What if those teams are the only ones that can offer max deals? 

Then you're screwing the guy on his earning potential and restricting where he can go where he's going to financially hurt him.

Awful idea.

[slamtheking]

not a good idea.  I get the dislike/hatred of super teams and the crap Durant pulled going to GSW and the disgrace Bron pulled joining with Bosh and Wade in Miami. 

I think if you want to stop moves like that from happening, the cap raises need to be restricted each year (as long as the total amount of cap increases such that the players get their fair share within a couple of years of the league's income rise) to prevent huge spikes as well as enforce appropriate contracts being paid out to the top players --> no top players taking a discount to go to a different team.  Example, Durant would have had to take the most money possible from GSW and not a discount to be able to squeeze into their salary cap.

on the cap restriction, say the league gets a hugs TV package that would allow them to bump the cap 15% in one year and likely 3% bumps the next 2 years.  The restriction would bump the next 3 years at 7% per year.   Cap still ends up at 21% higher after 3 years and the players would get a fair bump in the timeframe.  (yes I know that 15% X 3% X 3% is not equal to 7% X 7% X 7% but for the sake of this comment, you get the point).

[BitterJim]

call it the "Durant rule"

A player that wins the MVP or makes 1st or 2nd ALL NBA TEAM , can't sign as a UFA or RFA (coming from a different team)  with a team coming off a ECF/WCF series

this way you prevent super teams from forming

How many years would this restriction last? Would Rose not be allowed to sign with Cleveland because he won MVP before his knee injuries?

What if a team makes the ECF or WCF and then loses a big name player in FA? They wouldn't be able to sign someone good to replace them?

What if a team that's just mediocre gets through the 1st round and then is up in their second round series: would they be better off tanking the series (assuming they had cap room), since making the conference finals could stop them from signing a big name guy?

This just doesn't seem well thought out

[BitterJim]

not a good idea.  I get the dislike/hatred of super teams and the crap Durant pulled going to GSW and the disgrace Bron pulled joining with Bosh and Wade in Miami. 

I think if you want to stop moves like that from happening, the cap raises need to be restricted each year (as long as the total amount of cap increases such that the players get their fair share within a couple of years of the league's income rise) to prevent huge spikes as well as enforce appropriate contracts being paid out to the top players --> no top players taking a discount to go to a different team.  Example, Durant would have had to take the most money possible from GSW and not a discount to be able to squeeze into their salary cap.

on the cap restriction, say the league gets a hugs TV package that would allow them to bump the cap 15% in one year and likely 3% bumps the next 2 years.  The restriction would bump the next 3 years at 7% per year.   Cap still ends up at 21% higher after 3 years and the players would get a fair bump in the timeframe.  (yes I know that 15% X 3% X 3% is not equal to 7% X 7% X 7% but for the sake of this comment, you get the point).

There's no way the NBA PA would agree to waiting a couple of years to get their money. A better change would be to set contracts as a percentage of the cap, and then have the cap raise as needed without having any jumps like 2016