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Hayward 100% recovery-
« on: May 31, 2018, 07:54:13 PM »

Offline rollie mass

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Going in and removing hardware and giving 100% recovery to muscles and bone and Kyrie with no structural damage is like winning the lottery.
All that is left is Theis-Please tell me modern day surgery gets a player back to 100%,that it will not inhibit lateral agility or effect his quick vertical

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« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2018, 08:05:55 PM »

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I'm hopeful for Hayward's recovery, but I don't expect him to be 100% for a while, if ever.

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« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2018, 08:15:44 PM »

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I'm hopeful for Hayward's recovery, but I don't expect him to be 100% for a while, if ever.

if ever? he will be back to 100%. When he got his injury there was no indication that this would hamper his career....

Paul george had worse and hes the same player.

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« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2018, 08:17:41 PM »

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I'm hopeful for Hayward's recovery, but I don't expect him to be 100% for a while, if ever.


I'm with you on this.

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« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2018, 08:19:47 PM »

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I'm hopeful for Hayward's recovery, but I don't expect him to be 100% for a while, if ever.

if ever? he will be back to 100%. When he got his injury there was no indication that this would hamper his career....

Paul george had worse and hes the same player.

Paul George's injury was not the same. That was his leg bone, avoiding the joint. Hayward's injury was the actual joint. It's impossible that there was no ligament and tendon damage. It's just a question of how minimal it was and how long will it take for him to regain full strength, mobility, and confidence without enduring soreness and stiffness.

I think it will take until the all-star break for him to return close to normal, and although I am hopeful he will regain most of his previous form, I doubt he will regain all of it fully. I assume though he will improve other aspects of his game such as his shooting.

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« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2018, 08:28:51 PM »

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I'm hopeful for Hayward's recovery, but I don't expect him to be 100% for a while, if ever.

if ever? he will be back to 100%. When he got his injury there was no indication that this would hamper his career....

Paul george had worse and hes the same player.

Paul George's injury was not the same. That was his leg bone, avoiding the joint. Hayward's injury was the actual joint. It's impossible that there was no ligament and tendon damage. It's just a question of how minimal it was and how long will it take for him to regain full strength, mobility, and confidence without enduring soreness and stiffness.

I think it will take until the all-star break for him to return close to normal, and although I am hopeful he will regain most of his previous form, I doubt he will regain all of it fully. I assume though he will improve other aspects of his game such as his shooting.

I think at the time they said it was a clean break. I think the mental aspect is going to be the hardest part. I would agree that I think they are going to ease him back in...and thats the luxury of having Tatum/Brown who an handle the load

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« Reply #6 on: May 31, 2018, 08:35:55 PM »

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What happens when GH turns his ankle -- is he inevitably will?   Other than probably terrifying for him, will his tendons/ligaments/bones be more vulnerable to tears/fractures....?

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« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2018, 09:40:34 AM »

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NO TISSUE DAMAGE!!!!!NO MUSCLE DAMAGE!!! NO BONE DAMAGE!!!-He will be at 100%

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« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2018, 09:55:46 AM »

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I'm hopeful for Hayward's recovery, but I don't expect him to be 100% for a while, if ever.

if ever? he will be back to 100%. When he got his injury there was no indication that this would hamper his career....

Paul george had worse and hes the same player.

Paul George's injury was not the same. That was his leg bone, avoiding the joint. Hayward's injury was the actual joint. It's impossible that there was no ligament and tendon damage. It's just a question of how minimal it was and how long will it take for him to regain full strength, mobility, and confidence without enduring soreness and stiffness.

I think it will take until the all-star break for him to return close to normal, and although I am hopeful he will regain most of his previous form, I doubt he will regain all of it fully. I assume though he will improve other aspects of his game such as his shooting.

I kind of agree and kind of disagree.

In the 2016-2017 season, Hayward had more dunks that George or Butler. He is more athletic than people think. I think all of his athleticism will return.

That said, I could see him "playing it safe" more often. In a situation like that when he feels a defender close, he may not try to make that play. In that sense, he may never be the player he was, but I think he will continue to be a high iq two-way player.

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« Reply #9 on: June 01, 2018, 10:08:20 AM »

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I'm hopeful for Hayward's recovery, but I don't expect him to be 100% for a while, if ever.
Based on what exactly?

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« Reply #10 on: June 01, 2018, 10:15:58 AM »

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I'm hopeful for Hayward's recovery, but I don't expect him to be 100% for a while, if ever.

Ainge and medical staff disagree..


“Gordon felt like he was making great strides and getting close, but he still had a little bit of pain in one little spot that persisted over the last couple months,” Ainge said during his weekly radio appearance on 98.5 The Sports Hub’s “Toucher & Rich.”

“(The Celtics’ medical staff) felt like it was being caused by the hardware, and they just took the hardware and did some testing on it, and tested that his left foot is even stronger than his right foot when that pain is alleviated. So, they just felt like they were going to get the hardware out"

His bone had completely healed and the muscles and tissues and everything had all healed, and they just wanted to get that hardware out. So, that was the safest bet of him being 100 percent by next year so there wouldn’t be any lingering effects.”

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« Reply #11 on: June 01, 2018, 11:12:45 AM »

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Hayward's injury is almost identical to Ohio State's JT Barrett when he broke it in 2014. Barrett came back and had no issues whatsoever the past two seasons playing a much more punishing sport.


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« Reply #12 on: June 01, 2018, 11:44:37 AM »

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I'm hopeful for Hayward's recovery, but I don't expect him to be 100% for a while, if ever.

Ainge and medical staff disagree..


“Gordon felt like he was making great strides and getting close, but he still had a little bit of pain in one little spot that persisted over the last couple months,” Ainge said during his weekly radio appearance on 98.5 The Sports Hub’s “Toucher & Rich.”

“(The Celtics’ medical staff) felt like it was being caused by the hardware, and they just took the hardware and did some testing on it, and tested that his left foot is even stronger than his right foot when that pain is alleviated. So, they just felt like they were going to get the hardware out"

His bone had completely healed and the muscles and tissues and everything had all healed, and they just wanted to get that hardware out. So, that was the safest bet of him being 100 percent by next year so there wouldn’t be any lingering effects.”

So can you explain in plain English what this actually means? How did they "take the hardware" while it was still in his foot?
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« Reply #13 on: June 01, 2018, 12:26:32 PM »

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I'm hopeful for Hayward's recovery, but I don't expect him to be 100% for a while, if ever.

Ainge and medical staff disagree..


“Gordon felt like he was making great strides and getting close, but he still had a little bit of pain in one little spot that persisted over the last couple months,” Ainge said during his weekly radio appearance on 98.5 The Sports Hub’s “Toucher & Rich.”

“(The Celtics’ medical staff) felt like it was being caused by the hardware, and they just took the hardware and did some testing on it, and tested that his left foot is even stronger than his right foot when that pain is alleviated. So, they just felt like they were going to get the hardware out"

His bone had completely healed and the muscles and tissues and everything had all healed, and they just wanted to get that hardware out. So, that was the safest bet of him being 100 percent by next year so there wouldn’t be any lingering effects.”

So can you explain in plain English what this actually means? How did they "take the hardware" while it was still in his foot?

I think it means: a doctor surgically removed the pins/plates/screws that another doctor inserted into his leg/foot to help stabilize the area while it healed. Now that the bone is fully healed, they removed the "hardware" because they believe it was causing pain and it's no longer necessary to stabilize the bone.

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« Reply #14 on: June 01, 2018, 12:39:36 PM »

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What I don't get is how Hayward/the Cs sort-of let us believe that there was a possibility of him returning this past season. Was there some kind of major set back other than the time when he pushed himself and felt 'pain'? I know people scoffed at the possibility that Hayward could return, but there was some chance. Now we hear that he will be ready in time for training camp. That is a big difference in time.