The End of an Era. James to leave East, from Celtics dominance.

[Erik]

Man, some of y’all have balls galore.  It’s ONE game.  Cleveland wins the next game and today is easily forgotten.

hey Mr. Skeptical

you can enjoy the blowout today!

I enjoyed the hell of the game.  But I’m not ready to pronounce James dead.  There’s a difference.

You’re just not extrapolating what next year’s result will be based on this blowout. OP is referring to next season. Anyone with estimation skills can predict that the Celtics will be unstoppable with current lineup plus Kyrie and Gordon. Nothing incredible about it.

Ah, you’re right.  Of course, the premise still faulty because west as good or better than east but if he does leave Cleveland, he may have to choose wisely.

Premise, though, is that he runs to a better team, not escapes the East for the West. The only reason it’s West is because Philly seems like a lateral movement (unless they somehow pry Kahwi with garbage).. no other East team has the cap space to form a super team. If he goes to Houston (probably better than the current Celtics — so add him and Kyrie/Gordon and it’s a good fight) or Lakers along with 2 other stars, he’s now able to win titles again. He’s currently stuck in Cleveland with no upside at all.

You think Philly is a lateral move?  I mean, the fit isn’t great with Simmons but Embiid alone makes it better than Cleveland.  And I don’t see how Houston works as they dknt have the space to sign him.

I think that it’s not enough to get over the Celtics. I am very pessimistic about Simmons. I don’t think he has a place in the NBA as a ball handler until he can shoot 25% from 3. It’s just not good enough for James to warrant a move.

 Philly GM don't read this.

 Trade Fultz, Bayless, Justin Anderson, Draft picks for Kawhi.

 Sign James.

 Overpay for Smart to screw Celtics

Sorry, but this is a collection of garbage. The Celtics can offer Rozier, Smart, Marcus Morris plus 2 lotto picks. Why would Spurs take this offer?

[KG Living Legend]

Man, some of y’all have balls galore.  It’s ONE game.  Cleveland wins the next game and today is easily forgotten.

hey Mr. Skeptical

you can enjoy the blowout today!

I enjoyed the hell of the game.  But I’m not ready to pronounce James dead.  There’s a difference.

You’re just not extrapolating what next year’s result will be based on this blowout. OP is referring to next season. Anyone with estimation skills can predict that the Celtics will be unstoppable with current lineup plus Kyrie and Gordon. Nothing incredible about it.

Ah, you’re right.  Of course, the premise still faulty because west as good or better than east but if he does leave Cleveland, he may have to choose wisely.

Premise, though, is that he runs to a better team, not escapes the East for the West. The only reason it’s West is because Philly seems like a lateral movement (unless they somehow pry Kahwi with garbage).. no other East team has the cap space to form a super team. If he goes to Houston (probably better than the current Celtics — so add him and Kyrie/Gordon and it’s a good fight) or Lakers along with 2 other stars, he’s now able to win titles again. He’s currently stuck in Cleveland with no upside at all.

You think Philly is a lateral move?  I mean, the fit isn’t great with Simmons but Embiid alone makes it better than Cleveland.  And I don’t see how Houston works as they dknt have the space to sign him.

I think that it’s not enough to get over the Celtics. I am very pessimistic about Simmons. I don’t think he has a place in the NBA as a ball handler until he can shoot 25% from 3. It’s just not good enough for James to warrant a move.

 Philly GM don't read this.

 Trade Fultz, Bayless, Justin Anderson, Draft picks for Kawhi.

 Sign James.

 Overpay for Smart to screw Celtics

Sorry, but this is a collection of garbage. The Celtics can offer Rozier, Smart, Marcus Morris plus 2 lotto picks. Why would Spurs take this offer?

 Philly can go all the way to a Fultz, Saric, and Covington package plus two future firsts. From Houston and Minnesota. If they want to include all that to secure Kawhi and LeBron they could.

[Erik]

Man, some of y’all have balls galore.  It’s ONE game.  Cleveland wins the next game and today is easily forgotten.

hey Mr. Skeptical

you can enjoy the blowout today!

I enjoyed the hell of the game.  But I’m not ready to pronounce James dead.  There’s a difference.

You’re just not extrapolating what next year’s result will be based on this blowout. OP is referring to next season. Anyone with estimation skills can predict that the Celtics will be unstoppable with current lineup plus Kyrie and Gordon. Nothing incredible about it.

Ah, you’re right.  Of course, the premise still faulty because west as good or better than east but if he does leave Cleveland, he may have to choose wisely.

Premise, though, is that he runs to a better team, not escapes the East for the West. The only reason it’s West is because Philly seems like a lateral movement (unless they somehow pry Kahwi with garbage).. no other East team has the cap space to form a super team. If he goes to Houston (probably better than the current Celtics — so add him and Kyrie/Gordon and it’s a good fight) or Lakers along with 2 other stars, he’s now able to win titles again. He’s currently stuck in Cleveland with no upside at all.

You think Philly is a lateral move?  I mean, the fit isn’t great with Simmons but Embiid alone makes it better than Cleveland.  And I don’t see how Houston works as they dknt have the space to sign him.

I think that it’s not enough to get over the Celtics. I am very pessimistic about Simmons. I don’t think he has a place in the NBA as a ball handler until he can shoot 25% from 3. It’s just not good enough for James to warrant a move.

 Philly GM don't read this.

 Trade Fultz, Bayless, Justin Anderson, Draft picks for Kawhi.

 Sign James.

 Overpay for Smart to screw Celtics

Sorry, but this is a collection of garbage. The Celtics can offer Rozier, Smart, Marcus Morris plus 2 lotto picks. Why would Spurs take this offer?

 Philly can go all the way to a Fultz, Saric, and Covington package plus two future firsts. From Houston and Minnesota. If they want to include all that to secure Kawhi and LeBron they could.

Our package is still better. Covington is so bad that they might have to give a pick away to dump his 30 million dollar contract — he’s not an asset at the moment. The Sixers played an 8 man rotation and Fultz didn’t play. That means he’s at least the 9th best player for the Sixers... on a team that has TJ McConnell.

Rozier and Smart are actual pieces to build with. Morris has one of the most valuable contracts in the NBA. And it’s expiring. Our deal is a lot better.

[CelticsElite]

Anyone notice how lebron has given up on playing defense, especially in the 2nd half? He's getting old and its slowly showing. Its sad that embiid looks gassed by the 4th, but lebron loses a step clearly at the 3rd quarter. He tries to compensate by complaining for foul calls....   uses that as his reason for not Getting back on D sometimes

[bopna]

Anyone notice how lebron has given up on playing defense, especially in the 2nd half? He's getting old and its slowly showing. Its sad that embiid looks gassed by the 4th, but lebron loses a step clearly at the 3rd quarter. He tries to compensate by complaining for foul calls....   uses that as his reason for not Getting back on D sometimes

If it was close you will see Lebron give better effort.
He didn't bother much anymore because they were being dusted.
Also he could not hide himself on defense because our fi e players on the floor can all create hence contributes to Lebron havinv to work on both sides of the floor.

[Ogaju]

Anyone notice how lebron has given up on playing defense, especially in the 2nd half? He's getting old and its slowly showing. Its sad that embiid looks gassed by the 4th, but lebron loses a step clearly at the 3rd quarter. He tries to compensate by complaining for foul calls....   uses that as his reason for not Getting back on D sometimes

If it was close you will see Lebron give better effort.
He didn't bother much anymore because they were being dusted.
Also he could not hide himself on defense because our fi e players on the floor can all create hence contributes to Lebron havinv to work on both sides of the floor.

People just do not appreciate how huge it is that the Celtics field a starting five that can generate high octane offense without giving up anything on defense.

[CelticsElite]

Anyone notice how lebron has given up on playing defense, especially in the 2nd half? He's getting old and its slowly showing. Its sad that embiid looks gassed by the 4th, but lebron loses a step clearly at the 3rd quarter. He tries to compensate by complaining for foul calls....   uses that as his reason for not Getting back on D sometimes

If it was close you will see Lebron give better effort.
He didn't bother much anymore because they were being dusted.
Also he could not hide himself on defense because our fi e players on the floor can all create hence contributes to Lebron havinv to work on both sides of the floor.

People just do not appreciate how huge it is that the Celtics field a starting five that can generate high octane offense without giving up anything on defense.

which begs the question- is kyrie being out of the lineup considered addition by subtraction? Kyrie sometimes was a black hole on defense. His occasional contested pull up 3 was a bit annoying too.

[Ogaju]

Anyone notice how lebron has given up on playing defense, especially in the 2nd half? He's getting old and its slowly showing. Its sad that embiid looks gassed by the 4th, but lebron loses a step clearly at the 3rd quarter. He tries to compensate by complaining for foul calls....   uses that as his reason for not Getting back on D sometimes

If it was close you will see Lebron give better effort.
He didn't bother much anymore because they were being dusted.
Also he could not hide himself on defense because our fi e players on the floor can all create hence contributes to Lebron havinv to work on both sides of the floor.

People just do not appreciate how huge it is that the Celtics field a starting five that can generate high octane offense without giving up anything on defense.

which begs the question- is kyrie being out of the lineup considered addition by subtraction? Kyrie sometimes was a black hole on defense. His occasional contested pull up 3 was a bit annoying too.

It is a consideration...players are not standing around looking at what Kyrie can pull out of his bag of tricks

[Celtics4ever]

They kind of give up if the game was no close, and LeBron always sits in those situations.   He never fights and claws until the end.