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Re: 76ers fans think Tatum is already better than Hayward
« Reply #45 on: May 06, 2018, 08:33:03 AM »

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Tatum is having far more playoff moments that's for sure but Hayward was never given a chance to. Regular season we saw Hayward try to lead his team and be the focus of opponents' defenses we have yet to see Tatum in that nightly position. Hayward doesnt have the length of Tatum but I believe he is still better handling the ball, off the ball and shooting. Tatum could be better next year.

Re: 76ers fans think Tatum is already better than Hayward
« Reply #46 on: May 06, 2018, 09:06:36 AM »

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thoughts?

Tatum is better than Hayward.

I am not a big Hayward fan. He is not a good defender.

Re: 76ers fans think Tatum is already better than Hayward
« Reply #47 on: May 06, 2018, 09:15:25 AM »

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Next season will be a challenge.  I can't imagine Tatum moving back to the bench after these playoffs, but the logjam is real.

Both Tatum and Hayward started opening game this season together. What has happened that would change that?
Nothing.  I don’t really see either of them coming off the bench, especially not Hayward considering his seniority and being in his prime.

Re: 76ers fans think Tatum is already better than Hayward
« Reply #48 on: May 06, 2018, 09:16:22 AM »

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Would you trade Tatum for Simmons and Fultz?
I moved the cheese.

Re: 76ers fans think Tatum is already better than Hayward
« Reply #49 on: May 06, 2018, 09:17:20 AM »

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I did have a weird thought last night. What if the Cs brought Hayward off the bench like the Spurs did with Ginobli a few years ago?

I don't think Tatum or Brown are wired to be a good off-the-bench guys, at least not yet. Doing this would allow you to start big with Irving-Brown-Tatum-Horford-Baynes, or replace Baynes with a more versatile defensive-minded guy like Ojeleye or Smart in certain matchups.

Hayward gets to run the offense against bench units with Rozier and Brown (Brown's minutes overlap with Hayward). Then he finishes the game as the Cs go small with Irving-Brown-Tatum-Hayward-Horford.

Re: 76ers fans think Tatum is already better than Hayward
« Reply #50 on: May 06, 2018, 09:23:55 AM »

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Would you trade Tatum for Simmons and Fultz?
Prior to this series, absolutely.  Now I wouldn’t pull the trigger.

Re: 76ers fans think Tatum is already better than Hayward
« Reply #51 on: May 06, 2018, 09:24:53 AM »

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Guys, Hayward is not coming off the bench. He's starting alongside Brown and Tatum.

Next year what I think we'll see:

Irving/Brown/Hayward/Tatum/Horford
Smart/Rozier/Morris/Theis

Re: 76ers fans think Tatum is already better than Hayward
« Reply #52 on: May 06, 2018, 09:26:43 AM »

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Sixers fans had better worry about their "Process" rather than our lineups.

This team - WITH GH as well as Brown, Tatum, Irving, Horford, etc, etc - will be special.

And THIS man shall lead them.


Re: 76ers fans think Tatum is already better than Hayward
« Reply #53 on: May 06, 2018, 09:41:19 AM »

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Guys, Hayward is not coming off the bench. He's starting alongside Brown and Tatum.

Next year what I think we'll see:

Irving/Brown/Hayward/Tatum/Horford
Smart/Rozier/Morris/Theis
So C's not trading Rozier to the Suns for Ayton?  :D

Re: 76ers fans think Tatum is already better than Hayward
« Reply #54 on: May 06, 2018, 09:51:17 AM »

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Guys, Hayward is not coming off the bench. He's starting alongside Brown and Tatum.

Next year what I think we'll see:

Irving/Brown/Hayward/Tatum/Horford
Smart/Rozier/Morris/Theis
Don’t forget Baynes.  He is a big part of our defense when the other team has a big strong center.  Horford is good but he is not stopping a big strong center on a nightly basis.  Baynes will be needed or someone like him. 

Re: 76ers fans think Tatum is already better than Hayward
« Reply #55 on: May 06, 2018, 09:56:32 AM »

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Guys, Hayward is not coming off the bench. He's starting alongside Brown and Tatum.

Next year what I think we'll see:

Irving/Brown/Hayward/Tatum/Horford
Smart/Rozier/Morris/Theis
So C's not trading Rozier to the Suns for Ayton?  :D
Won't have to. Lakers going to end up with #2 pick this year. :p

Re: 76ers fans think Tatum is already better than Hayward
« Reply #56 on: May 06, 2018, 09:57:31 AM »

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Guys, Hayward is not coming off the bench. He's starting alongside Brown and Tatum.

Next year what I think we'll see:

Irving/Brown/Hayward/Tatum/Horford
Smart/Rozier/Morris/Theis
Don’t forget Baynes.  He is a big part of our defense when the other team has a big strong center.  Horford is good but he is not stopping a big strong center on a nightly basis.  Baynes will be needed or someone like him.
I didn't include Baynes because I wasn't sure how they could afford him since I don't think they have his Bird rights. Maybe MLE?  But I agree they will need a big C on the team like Baynes.

Re: 76ers fans think Tatum is already better than Hayward
« Reply #57 on: May 06, 2018, 10:30:01 AM »

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Tatum isn’t there yet, but it’s awesome to see him rise to the occasion.


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Re: 76ers fans think Tatum is already better than Hayward
« Reply #58 on: May 06, 2018, 10:41:13 AM »

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Philly fans have to say that because it's downright frightening to think the C's are doing that to them without their 2 best players.

thoughts?
Tatum is better than Hayward.
I am not a big Hayward fan. He is not a good defender.

Someone obviously hasn't seen much of Hayward. Hayward is a good defender, yes, better than Tatum on that end as well. It's become a misnomer to just a label Hayward as another white guy that doesn't play D.

People seem to forget that Hayward averaged the following during last year's playoffs against the Clippers (a team that consisted of CP3, Blake, Jordan, Redick) and Warriors. Good teams with good defenders that were scheming to try to stop Hayward as Utah's first option.

PPG 24.6
RPG 6.1
APG 3.4
FG% 44.1
FT% 93.4
3PT% 41.2
True Shooting% 59.8

This included his numbers also being slightly skewed by him only playing 9 minutes during 1 of those playoff games due to illness. Eliminating that game and his averages rise to 26.2 PPG, 6.5 RPG, and 3.7 APG.
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Re: 76ers fans think Tatum is already better than Hayward
« Reply #59 on: May 06, 2018, 10:42:13 AM »

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Why would a C's fan give a crap about what Philly fans think?  I mean, the only thing they've ever got right in their entire history of existence is the Philly Beef 'n Cheese....and maybe Ben Franklin.