the Sixers can pretty easily beat that while keeping both Embiid and Simmons
Is the trade just Brown and Tatum and filler such that Boston keeps all prime draft picks, Morris, and Rozier (so Brown, Tatum, Yabu, Nader, and Semi)? If so, I think that might be worth considering as a team of Irving, Hayward, Leonard, Morris, and Horford with Rozier, Smart, Theis, Baynes and/or Monroe on the bench is a clear title contender and the easy favorite in the East. The team then still has the Sacto and Memphis picks to provide potential high end young talent. That of course assumes both that Leonard is healthy and would re-sign.
Thanks for a rational post. While I would be loathe to give up either Jay, the key is identifying the outcome. In this case C’s get a top 5 player to play alongside KI, GH, and AH — all in their primes. With Terry, Smart, Morris and Moose/Baynes the C’s contend immediately.
Imagine if the C’s had rookie JT alongside Al Jefferson in 2007 — do you trade JT and Al for KG? You may not, but you could sure see the justification for doing it. Kawhi is 5 years younger than KG was in 2007. If KL is healthy, the idea of trading the Jays for him is not absurd. I wouldn’t like it because I want to see them develop here, but it’s a legit thought.
Except that id rather have Brown or Tatum than Morris and Rozier in vacuum and thats before you consider that Rozier or Morris will be on one year deals and unlikely to be back. Tatum and Brown is too much value for injure one year dual KL. And to answer your question if you had Tatum and Jefferson u absolutely dont trade both for KG, because as history showed us you only needed one.
I agree. The goal is multiple years of contention; keeping one of Brown/Tatum is non-negotiable.
And really, why should we have to add a prime draft pick? What team is beating Tatum + Rozier + Morris, for instance?
Yeah I was actually just about to say this. PHI can. And I doubt they do this, but if Magic Johnson signs PG13 and knows Lebron ain't coming, then maybe he's actually willing to trade Kuzma AND Ingram for Leonard, which would beat that offer too.
But PHI can by trading Saric, Fultz, Salary + like 2 future first rounders (including this year's Lakers Pick).
Frankly though, I'm fine with that. C's shouldn't overpay here. I like the team that we have. Just need to pray we stay relatively healthy next year and hope some of the young guys take an extra step (like Brown and Tatum improve more, and hey, maybe someone like Ojeyele surprises us and makes a bit of a leap next year).
You would trade Tatum + Rozier + Morris for Saric + Fultz + Lakers pick + PHI #1?
Why? Is Fultz's 2.5 points per game on 14.3% shooting in the playoffs that impressive?
Come on now, you don't actually think Fultz rates out as a 2.5 ppg on 14.3% shooting player do you? His value is significantly higher than that. He was the #1 pick for a reason and is coming back from injury. He showed flashes of all his potential down the stretch as he worked back from injury. Tatum likely has more value around the league, but the gap isn't nearly as much as this board makes it out to be. Saric is better than Rozier and has more value. The Lakers pick and a future Philly 1st is a lot more value than Morris and easily makes up the difference between Tatum and Fultz. The Sixers package is greater than that package by the Celtics. Boston can easily top it by adding Brown or the Sacto pick, but it would absolutely take that. And even if you think Tatum + Brown is an overpay, if Leonard ends up in Philly, then Philly, not Boston, is the clear favorite in the East. I mean, imagine if Philly makes that trade and then brings back most of their vets from this Simmons, Redick, Leonard, Ilyasova, Embiid with Covington, McConnell, Belinelli, Johnson, and Holmes. That team is stacked and would pose real problems for Boston going forward.