ESPN: “LeBron didn’t like how Cavs only got a 2nd rounder in Kyrie to BOS deal”

[celticsclay]

The implication in the article is that because Lebron was upset by the trade, he gave IT the cold shoulder.

There are other anecdotes in there, too, like Lebron not acknowledging IT when IT tried to celebrate Lebron’s game winner. For such a great player, it’s amazing how much of a baby Lebron can be.

come on Roy, the not celebrating with IT was the Minnesota game the day before the trade when James already knew a trade was coming.  To somehow imply that somehow speaks to their relationship is silly.  Had James celebrated when he knew IT was a goner he would have gotten killed by the media and fans for being a phoney.

So you don’t even acknowledge somebody?

What about when he refused to play offense when IT had the ball?

Or, carrying a grudge about the trade that spilled over to include the players themselves?

and the headline the next day is, Lebron yucking it up with IT when he knew IT was going to be traded.  Should have given him a high five or something sure, but Lebron can't win no matter what he does.  It would have been a story no matter what.

I did not realize how pro Lebron you are. Every post about the Cavs/LBJ you make makles you sound like a Cavs sympathizer. LBJ is an a hole behind the scenes.

How did you not realize this?

[celticsclay]

The implication in the article is that because Lebron was upset by the trade, he gave IT the cold shoulder.

There are other anecdotes in there, too, like Lebron not acknowledging IT when IT tried to celebrate Lebron’s game winner. For such a great player, it’s amazing how much of a baby Lebron can be.

come on Roy, the not celebrating with IT was the Minnesota game the day before the trade when James already knew a trade was coming.  To somehow imply that somehow speaks to their relationship is silly.  Had James celebrated when he knew IT was a goner he would have gotten killed by the media and fans for being a phoney.

So you don’t even acknowledge somebody?

What about when he refused to play offense when IT had the ball?

Or, carrying a grudge about the trade that spilled over to include the players themselves?

TP Roy. Absolving James for his behavior this year is absurd. He has not been a leader in any shape or form.

[Green-18]

This all sounds par for the course in regards to LeBron James.  He no longer gets any benefit of the doubt on these types of articles.  Just another reason to rip the guy when he loses.  LBJ is an absolute micro managing control freak because he's insecure about his legacy. 

[Roy H.]

The implication in the article is that because Lebron was upset by the trade, he gave IT the cold shoulder.

There are other anecdotes in there, too, like Lebron not acknowledging IT when IT tried to celebrate Lebron’s game winner. For such a great player, it’s amazing how much of a baby Lebron can be.

come on Roy, the not celebrating with IT was the Minnesota game the day before the trade when James already knew a trade was coming.  To somehow imply that somehow speaks to their relationship is silly.  Had James celebrated when he knew IT was a goner he would have gotten killed by the media and fans for being a phoney.

So you don’t even acknowledge somebody?

What about when he refused to play offense when IT had the ball?

Or, carrying a grudge about the trade that spilled over to include the players themselves?

TP Roy. Absolving James for his behavior this year is absurd. He has not been a leader in any shape or form.

I totally get hating teammates.  It happens at all levels of sports. But, you can’t carry those grudges on to the floor. Part of being a leader is sucking it up.  Ever since leaving for Miami Lebron has had everything a player can realistically ask for, and yet he’s constantly griping. Last year he gripes about needing a backup PG. This year, IT became the scapegoat.

At what point does he lead? I’ve seen him achieve great things, and he can carry a team on the floor like very few in history can. But, when things go sideways on him, he too often quits or casts blame.

[Donoghus]

Reads quite a bit like another Windhorst spoonfed Lebron PR sourced article.

Just building the narrative in case he bolts this offseason?

[Chris22]

LeBron is a spoiled and pampered brat who just happens to be an all time great basketball player.   Not the best leader, though.

He would not be as great if they would call it every time he travels or commits an offensive foul.

He is mollycoddled by the officials.

[Androslav]

Reads quite a bit like another Windhorst spoonfed Lebron PR sourced article.

Just building the narrative in case he bolts this offseason?

Just building the narrative in case he bolts this offseason.
(Others are to blame)

[Moranis]

The implication in the article is that because Lebron was upset by the trade, he gave IT the cold shoulder.

There are other anecdotes in there, too, like Lebron not acknowledging IT when IT tried to celebrate Lebron’s game winner. For such a great player, it’s amazing how much of a baby Lebron can be.

come on Roy, the not celebrating with IT was the Minnesota game the day before the trade when James already knew a trade was coming.  To somehow imply that somehow speaks to their relationship is silly.  Had James celebrated when he knew IT was a goner he would have gotten killed by the media and fans for being a phoney.

So you don’t even acknowledge somebody?

What about when he refused to play offense when IT had the ball?

Or, carrying a grudge about the trade that spilled over to include the players themselves?

TP Roy. Absolving James for his behavior this year is absurd. He has not been a leader in any shape or form.

I totally get hating teammates.  It happens at all levels of sports. But, you can’t carry those grudges on to the floor. Part of being a leader is sucking it up.  Ever since leaving for Miami Lebron has had everything a player can realistically ask for, and yet he’s constantly griping. Last year he gripes about needing a backup PG. This year, IT became the scapegoat.

At what point does he lead? I’ve seen him achieve great things, and he can carry a team on the floor like very few in history can. But, when things go sideways on him, he too often quits or casts blame.

Do you think making the effort to get to know IT means he carried a grudge against him?  I mean by all accounts, including the ones in the article, James made an effort to try to get to know IT and to try to fit their games together.  That all seemed to end when IT started yapping about everything.  I mean IT was the one with quotes in the media every other day where he was calling out teammates, about how great he was and the contract he deserved, about how the coaches don't adapt, about the lack of defensive intensity (I mean think about the hilarity of IT calling out teammates for defense when even if he was healthy he is a terrible defender and he wasn't healthy).  IT caused the rift in that locker-room and got himself traded as a result of his mouth.

[Androslav]

The implication in the article is that because Lebron was upset by the trade, he gave IT the cold shoulder.

There are other anecdotes in there, too, like Lebron not acknowledging IT when IT tried to celebrate Lebron’s game winner. For such a great player, it’s amazing how much of a baby Lebron can be.

come on Roy, the not celebrating with IT was the Minnesota game the day before the trade when James already knew a trade was coming.  To somehow imply that somehow speaks to their relationship is silly.  Had James celebrated when he knew IT was a goner he would have gotten killed by the media and fans for being a phoney.

So you don’t even acknowledge somebody?

What about when he refused to play offense when IT had the ball?

Or, carrying a grudge about the trade that spilled over to include the players themselves?

TP Roy. Absolving James for his behavior this year is absurd. He has not been a leader in any shape or form.

I totally get hating teammates.  It happens at all levels of sports. But, you can’t carry those grudges on to the floor. Part of being a leader is sucking it up.  Ever since leaving for Miami Lebron has had everything a player can realistically ask for, and yet he’s constantly griping. Last year he gripes about needing a backup PG. This year, IT became the scapegoat.

At what point does he lead? I’ve seen him achieve great things, and he can carry a team on the floor like very few in history can. But, when things go sideways on him, he too often quits or casts blame.

Do you think making the effort to get to know IT means he carried a grudge against him?  I mean by all accounts, including the ones in the article, James made an effort to try to get to know IT and to try to fit their games together.  That all seemed to end when IT started yapping about everything.  I mean IT was the one with quotes in the media every other day where he was calling out teammates, about how great he was and the contract he deserved, about how the coaches don't adapt, about the lack of defensive intensity (I mean think about the hilarity of IT calling out teammates for defense when even if he was healthy he is a terrible defender and he wasn't healthy).  IT caused the rift in that locker-room and got himself traded as a result of his mouth.

Moranis, too much of LeBron porridge is bad for your health.
IT felt disrespected (for a good reason) and then he trolled the Cleveland's team.
As a true Celtic should, I'll add.
He also watched Crowders back. And Jae felt the same.

[celticsclay]

The implication in the article is that because Lebron was upset by the trade, he gave IT the cold shoulder.

There are other anecdotes in there, too, like Lebron not acknowledging IT when IT tried to celebrate Lebron’s game winner. For such a great player, it’s amazing how much of a baby Lebron can be.

come on Roy, the not celebrating with IT was the Minnesota game the day before the trade when James already knew a trade was coming.  To somehow imply that somehow speaks to their relationship is silly.  Had James celebrated when he knew IT was a goner he would have gotten killed by the media and fans for being a phoney.

So you don’t even acknowledge somebody?

What about when he refused to play offense when IT had the ball?

Or, carrying a grudge about the trade that spilled over to include the players themselves?

TP Roy. Absolving James for his behavior this year is absurd. He has not been a leader in any shape or form.

I totally get hating teammates.  It happens at all levels of sports. But, you can’t carry those grudges on to the floor. Part of being a leader is sucking it up.  Ever since leaving for Miami Lebron has had everything a player can realistically ask for, and yet he’s constantly griping. Last year he gripes about needing a backup PG. This year, IT became the scapegoat.

At what point does he lead? I’ve seen him achieve great things, and he can carry a team on the floor like very few in history can. But, when things go sideways on him, he too often quits or casts blame.

Do you think making the effort to get to know IT means he carried a grudge against him?  I mean by all accounts, including the ones in the article, James made an effort to try to get to know IT and to try to fit their games together.  That all seemed to end when IT started yapping about everything.  I mean IT was the one with quotes in the media every other day where he was calling out teammates, about how great he was and the contract he deserved, about how the coaches don't adapt, about the lack of defensive intensity (I mean think about the hilarity of IT calling out teammates for defense when even if he was healthy he is a terrible defender and he wasn't healthy).  IT caused the rift in that locker-room and got himself traded as a result of his mouth.

Moranis, too much of LeBron porridge is bad for your health.
IT felt disrespected (for a good reason) and then he trolled the Cleveland's team.
As a true Celtic should, I'll add.
He also watched Crowders back. And Jae felt the same.

If I'm not mistaken crowder had some negative words on getting out of Cleveland too.

[Moranis]

The implication in the article is that because Lebron was upset by the trade, he gave IT the cold shoulder.

There are other anecdotes in there, too, like Lebron not acknowledging IT when IT tried to celebrate Lebron’s game winner. For such a great player, it’s amazing how much of a baby Lebron can be.

come on Roy, the not celebrating with IT was the Minnesota game the day before the trade when James already knew a trade was coming.  To somehow imply that somehow speaks to their relationship is silly.  Had James celebrated when he knew IT was a goner he would have gotten killed by the media and fans for being a phoney.

So you don’t even acknowledge somebody?

What about when he refused to play offense when IT had the ball?

Or, carrying a grudge about the trade that spilled over to include the players themselves?

TP Roy. Absolving James for his behavior this year is absurd. He has not been a leader in any shape or form.

I totally get hating teammates.  It happens at all levels of sports. But, you can’t carry those grudges on to the floor. Part of being a leader is sucking it up.  Ever since leaving for Miami Lebron has had everything a player can realistically ask for, and yet he’s constantly griping. Last year he gripes about needing a backup PG. This year, IT became the scapegoat.

At what point does he lead? I’ve seen him achieve great things, and he can carry a team on the floor like very few in history can. But, when things go sideways on him, he too often quits or casts blame.

Do you think making the effort to get to know IT means he carried a grudge against him?  I mean by all accounts, including the ones in the article, James made an effort to try to get to know IT and to try to fit their games together.  That all seemed to end when IT started yapping about everything.  I mean IT was the one with quotes in the media every other day where he was calling out teammates, about how great he was and the contract he deserved, about how the coaches don't adapt, about the lack of defensive intensity (I mean think about the hilarity of IT calling out teammates for defense when even if he was healthy he is a terrible defender and he wasn't healthy).  IT caused the rift in that locker-room and got himself traded as a result of his mouth.

Moranis, too much of LeBron porridge is bad for your health.
IT felt disrespected (for a good reason) and then he trolled the Cleveland's team.
As a true Celtic should, I'll add.
He also watched Crowders back. And Jae felt the same.

If I'm not mistaken crowder had some negative words on getting out of Cleveland too.

He did when he left Boston as well (and even before he left Boston). 

[celticsclay]

The implication in the article is that because Lebron was upset by the trade, he gave IT the cold shoulder.

There are other anecdotes in there, too, like Lebron not acknowledging IT when IT tried to celebrate Lebron’s game winner. For such a great player, it’s amazing how much of a baby Lebron can be.

come on Roy, the not celebrating with IT was the Minnesota game the day before the trade when James already knew a trade was coming.  To somehow imply that somehow speaks to their relationship is silly.  Had James celebrated when he knew IT was a goner he would have gotten killed by the media and fans for being a phoney.

So you don’t even acknowledge somebody?

What about when he refused to play offense when IT had the ball?

Or, carrying a grudge about the trade that spilled over to include the players themselves?

TP Roy. Absolving James for his behavior this year is absurd. He has not been a leader in any shape or form.

I totally get hating teammates.  It happens at all levels of sports. But, you can’t carry those grudges on to the floor. Part of being a leader is sucking it up.  Ever since leaving for Miami Lebron has had everything a player can realistically ask for, and yet he’s constantly griping. Last year he gripes about needing a backup PG. This year, IT became the scapegoat.

At what point does he lead? I’ve seen him achieve great things, and he can carry a team on the floor like very few in history can. But, when things go sideways on him, he too often quits or casts blame.

Do you think making the effort to get to know IT means he carried a grudge against him?  I mean by all accounts, including the ones in the article, James made an effort to try to get to know IT and to try to fit their games together.  That all seemed to end when IT started yapping about everything.  I mean IT was the one with quotes in the media every other day where he was calling out teammates, about how great he was and the contract he deserved, about how the coaches don't adapt, about the lack of defensive intensity (I mean think about the hilarity of IT calling out teammates for defense when even if he was healthy he is a terrible defender and he wasn't healthy).  IT caused the rift in that locker-room and got himself traded as a result of his mouth.

Moranis, too much of LeBron porridge is bad for your health.
IT felt disrespected (for a good reason) and then he trolled the Cleveland's team.
As a true Celtic should, I'll add.
He also watched Crowders back. And Jae felt the same.

If I'm not mistaken crowder had some negative words on getting out of Cleveland too.

He did when he left Boston as well (and even before he left Boston).

Wait so just to get this all in one place. The cavs were mediocre all season and your talking point was that you expected IT to return to all star form and take the Cavs to the next level. IT returns and they are still bad and you say he needs more time. They keep playing horrible. IT is traded out along with crowder and Wade and all start playing a bit better on their new teams. The cavs win 2 games in a row and you crow about the cavs eastern conference odds (side note raptor officially favorites to win east from sportsbook right now). Cavs continue to sputter and you say Kevin love is going to return and average 23-12 (numbers nobody in the NBA is currently averaging). When you see it all laid out likes this can you see how the everything is golden in Cleveland routine is a bit thin for a 4th place team coming off two blowouts?

Edit: I almost forget you said you thought Cleveland had a real good shot catching the Celtics in the standings and would go 22-6 after they made they made the trades

[Moranis]

The implication in the article is that because Lebron was upset by the trade, he gave IT the cold shoulder.

There are other anecdotes in there, too, like Lebron not acknowledging IT when IT tried to celebrate Lebron’s game winner. For such a great player, it’s amazing how much of a baby Lebron can be.

come on Roy, the not celebrating with IT was the Minnesota game the day before the trade when James already knew a trade was coming.  To somehow imply that somehow speaks to their relationship is silly.  Had James celebrated when he knew IT was a goner he would have gotten killed by the media and fans for being a phoney.

So you don’t even acknowledge somebody?

What about when he refused to play offense when IT had the ball?

Or, carrying a grudge about the trade that spilled over to include the players themselves?

TP Roy. Absolving James for his behavior this year is absurd. He has not been a leader in any shape or form.

I totally get hating teammates.  It happens at all levels of sports. But, you can’t carry those grudges on to the floor. Part of being a leader is sucking it up.  Ever since leaving for Miami Lebron has had everything a player can realistically ask for, and yet he’s constantly griping. Last year he gripes about needing a backup PG. This year, IT became the scapegoat.

At what point does he lead? I’ve seen him achieve great things, and he can carry a team on the floor like very few in history can. But, when things go sideways on him, he too often quits or casts blame.

Do you think making the effort to get to know IT means he carried a grudge against him?  I mean by all accounts, including the ones in the article, James made an effort to try to get to know IT and to try to fit their games together.  That all seemed to end when IT started yapping about everything.  I mean IT was the one with quotes in the media every other day where he was calling out teammates, about how great he was and the contract he deserved, about how the coaches don't adapt, about the lack of defensive intensity (I mean think about the hilarity of IT calling out teammates for defense when even if he was healthy he is a terrible defender and he wasn't healthy).  IT caused the rift in that locker-room and got himself traded as a result of his mouth.

Moranis, too much of LeBron porridge is bad for your health.
IT felt disrespected (for a good reason) and then he trolled the Cleveland's team.
As a true Celtic should, I'll add.
He also watched Crowders back. And Jae felt the same.

If I'm not mistaken crowder had some negative words on getting out of Cleveland too.

He did when he left Boston as well (and even before he left Boston).

Wait so just to get this all in one place. The cavs were mediocre all season and your talking point was that you expected IT to return to all star form and take the Cavs to the next level. IT returns and they are still bad and you say he needs more time. They keep playing horrible. IT is traded out along with crowder and Wade and all start playing a bit better on their new teams. The cavs win 2 games in a row and you crow about the cavs eastern conference odds (side note raptor officially favorites to win east from sportsbook right now). Cavs continue to sputter and you say Kevin love is going to return and average 23-12 (numbers nobody in the NBA is currently averaging). When you see it all laid out likes this can you see how the everything is golden in Cleveland routine is a bit thin for a 4th place team coming off two blowouts?

Edit: I almost forget you said you thought Cleveland had a real good shot catching the Celtics in the standings and would go 22-6 after they made they made the trades

I do expect IT to continue to get better.  His mouth got him traded out of Cleveland though.  He should be better as the year wears on now in LA. 

I expect Love to play more minutes and continue his 23/12 level production.

I never said that Cleveland would catch Boston and that certainly wasn't me who had the Cavs at 22-6.  I mean if you are going to stalk me, at least get your facts straight.

[celticsclay]

The implication in the article is that because Lebron was upset by the trade, he gave IT the cold shoulder.

There are other anecdotes in there, too, like Lebron not acknowledging IT when IT tried to celebrate Lebron’s game winner. For such a great player, it’s amazing how much of a baby Lebron can be.

come on Roy, the not celebrating with IT was the Minnesota game the day before the trade when James already knew a trade was coming.  To somehow imply that somehow speaks to their relationship is silly.  Had James celebrated when he knew IT was a goner he would have gotten killed by the media and fans for being a phoney.

So you don’t even acknowledge somebody?

What about when he refused to play offense when IT had the ball?

Or, carrying a grudge about the trade that spilled over to include the players themselves?

TP Roy. Absolving James for his behavior this year is absurd. He has not been a leader in any shape or form.

I totally get hating teammates.  It happens at all levels of sports. But, you can’t carry those grudges on to the floor. Part of being a leader is sucking it up.  Ever since leaving for Miami Lebron has had everything a player can realistically ask for, and yet he’s constantly griping. Last year he gripes about needing a backup PG. This year, IT became the scapegoat.

At what point does he lead? I’ve seen him achieve great things, and he can carry a team on the floor like very few in history can. But, when things go sideways on him, he too often quits or casts blame.

Do you think making the effort to get to know IT means he carried a grudge against him?  I mean by all accounts, including the ones in the article, James made an effort to try to get to know IT and to try to fit their games together.  That all seemed to end when IT started yapping about everything.  I mean IT was the one with quotes in the media every other day where he was calling out teammates, about how great he was and the contract he deserved, about how the coaches don't adapt, about the lack of defensive intensity (I mean think about the hilarity of IT calling out teammates for defense when even if he was healthy he is a terrible defender and he wasn't healthy).  IT caused the rift in that locker-room and got himself traded as a result of his mouth.

Moranis, too much of LeBron porridge is bad for your health.
IT felt disrespected (for a good reason) and then he trolled the Cleveland's team.
As a true Celtic should, I'll add.
He also watched Crowders back. And Jae felt the same.

If I'm not mistaken crowder had some negative words on getting out of Cleveland too.

He did when he left Boston as well (and even before he left Boston).

Wait so just to get this all in one place. The cavs were mediocre all season and your talking point was that you expected IT to return to all star form and take the Cavs to the next level. IT returns and they are still bad and you say he needs more time. They keep playing horrible. IT is traded out along with crowder and Wade and all start playing a bit better on their new teams. The cavs win 2 games in a row and you crow about the cavs eastern conference odds (side note raptor officially favorites to win east from sportsbook right now). Cavs continue to sputter and you say Kevin love is going to return and average 23-12 (numbers nobody in the NBA is currently averaging). When you see it all laid out likes this can you see how the everything is golden in Cleveland routine is a bit thin for a 4th place team coming off two blowouts?

Edit: I almost forget you said you thought Cleveland had a real good shot catching the Celtics in the standings and would go 22-6 after they made they made the trades

I never said that and that certainly wasn't me who had the Cavs at 22-6.  I mean if you are going to stalk me, at least get your facts straight.

It's not stalking man. You are the only person on the board that is pumping everything working out  for Lebron and the cavs on every thread. Also interesting way to dismiss the rest of my post.

[Moranis]

The implication in the article is that because Lebron was upset by the trade, he gave IT the cold shoulder.

There are other anecdotes in there, too, like Lebron not acknowledging IT when IT tried to celebrate Lebron’s game winner. For such a great player, it’s amazing how much of a baby Lebron can be.

come on Roy, the not celebrating with IT was the Minnesota game the day before the trade when James already knew a trade was coming.  To somehow imply that somehow speaks to their relationship is silly.  Had James celebrated when he knew IT was a goner he would have gotten killed by the media and fans for being a phoney.

So you don’t even acknowledge somebody?

What about when he refused to play offense when IT had the ball?

Or, carrying a grudge about the trade that spilled over to include the players themselves?

TP Roy. Absolving James for his behavior this year is absurd. He has not been a leader in any shape or form.

I totally get hating teammates.  It happens at all levels of sports. But, you can’t carry those grudges on to the floor. Part of being a leader is sucking it up.  Ever since leaving for Miami Lebron has had everything a player can realistically ask for, and yet he’s constantly griping. Last year he gripes about needing a backup PG. This year, IT became the scapegoat.

At what point does he lead? I’ve seen him achieve great things, and he can carry a team on the floor like very few in history can. But, when things go sideways on him, he too often quits or casts blame.

Do you think making the effort to get to know IT means he carried a grudge against him?  I mean by all accounts, including the ones in the article, James made an effort to try to get to know IT and to try to fit their games together.  That all seemed to end when IT started yapping about everything.  I mean IT was the one with quotes in the media every other day where he was calling out teammates, about how great he was and the contract he deserved, about how the coaches don't adapt, about the lack of defensive intensity (I mean think about the hilarity of IT calling out teammates for defense when even if he was healthy he is a terrible defender and he wasn't healthy).  IT caused the rift in that locker-room and got himself traded as a result of his mouth.

Moranis, too much of LeBron porridge is bad for your health.
IT felt disrespected (for a good reason) and then he trolled the Cleveland's team.
As a true Celtic should, I'll add.
He also watched Crowders back. And Jae felt the same.

If I'm not mistaken crowder had some negative words on getting out of Cleveland too.

He did when he left Boston as well (and even before he left Boston).

Wait so just to get this all in one place. The cavs were mediocre all season and your talking point was that you expected IT to return to all star form and take the Cavs to the next level. IT returns and they are still bad and you say he needs more time. They keep playing horrible. IT is traded out along with crowder and Wade and all start playing a bit better on their new teams. The cavs win 2 games in a row and you crow about the cavs eastern conference odds (side note raptor officially favorites to win east from sportsbook right now). Cavs continue to sputter and you say Kevin love is going to return and average 23-12 (numbers nobody in the NBA is currently averaging). When you see it all laid out likes this can you see how the everything is golden in Cleveland routine is a bit thin for a 4th place team coming off two blowouts?

Edit: I almost forget you said you thought Cleveland had a real good shot catching the Celtics in the standings and would go 22-6 after they made they made the trades

I never said that and that certainly wasn't me who had the Cavs at 22-6.  I mean if you are going to stalk me, at least get your facts straight.

It's not stalking man. You are the only person on the board that is pumping everything working out  for Lebron and the cavs on every thread. Also interesting way to dismiss the rest of my post.

I edited it, but it still doesn't change the point that I never came close to projecting the Cavs at 22-6 or catching Boston for 2.