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Reggie Miller and marcus
« on: March 09, 2018, 08:56:24 AM »

Offline rollie mass

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They worked the script to perfection as Marcus did all those things that make him invaluable.Marcus had his own kind of movie night.
The camera caught him flat out diving for a deflection and Miller couldn't believe the effort for "JUST A DEFLECTION" !
They had his defense and takeaway strip of a big.
And it all started earlier with that put back.
                 
                              The admiration of Reggie Miller was priceless.
                     Now you can see why you can roll down a dark alley with that man
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Yes, also Kenny had a nice video featuring Marcus’s defense.

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It was not surprising that Marcus didn’t make the ESPN’s top 25 under 25 list. He doesn’t fill out the stat sheet with great numbers, so you wouldn’t understand his contribution to a team unless you watch him play. However, when you watch nationally televised games, it seems the former players who commentate on Celtics games, all seem to universally recognize how valuable Smart is and would have wanted him on their teams when they had played.

The Celtics have another guy on the team who doesn’t put up great numbers, but consistently does all the little things to help contribute to wins…Al Horford. Is it any coincidence that since Al has joined the team (in addition to having Smart too), that the Celtics have been one of the top two teams in the East? Both guys seem to value winning over any personal stat. A perfect example of this is Smart’s willingness to take any end of the quarter shot. He is not concerned about lowering his shooting percentage, but wants to try to put points on the score board for his team. There seems to be a lot of players who wait to hear the buzzer go off before shooting the ball. If it goes in, it’s a highlight but the most likely miss won’t hurt their FG%.

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« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2018, 01:36:05 PM »

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Dave Cowens was one of my favorites he never gets enough credit was a red headed Marcus.
Also Marcus was Thies's favorite
-This team is night and day different with Marcus back- his switching ability and getting over, under or spinning around screens is special-in my eyes he is an elite all star on defense and in this league you need one or two.

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Dave Cowens was one of my favorites he never gets enough credit was a red headed Marcus.
Also Marcus was Thies's favorite
-This team is night and day different with Marcus back- his switching ability and getting over, under or spinning around screens is special-in my eyes he is an elite all star on defense and in this league you need one or two.
I absolutely love watching Marcus on the defensive end.  He is so communicative with his teammates, and is constantly directing traffic trying to make sure they are a cohesive 5-man wall. 

Additionally, I love watching Marcus try to defend 2 on 1 fast breaks.  He ALWAYS puts up a great vertical contest, and even if he gets called for a foul it's usually questionable if he fouled or made a clean defense of the shot.  He is a special player on the defensive end.

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Dave Cowens was one of my favorites he never gets enough credit was a red headed Marcus.
Also Marcus was Thies's favorite
-This team is night and day different with Marcus back- his switching ability and getting over, under or spinning around screens is special-in my eyes he is an elite all star on defense and in this league you need one or two.
I absolutely love watching Marcus on the defensive end.  He is so communicative with his teammates, and is constantly directing traffic trying to make sure they are a cohesive 5-man wall. 

Additionally, I love watching Marcus try to defend 2 on 1 fast breaks.  He ALWAYS puts up a great vertical contest, and even if he gets called for a foul it's usually questionable if he fouled or made a clean defense of the shot.  He is a special player on the defensive end.

Yep. I think his contributions as a leader on the floor are immeasurable.
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Marcus > Rozier

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« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2018, 01:48:30 PM »

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Dave Cowens was one of my favorites he never gets enough credit was a red headed Marcus.
Also Marcus was Thies's favorite
-This team is night and day different with Marcus back- his switching ability and getting over, under or spinning around screens is special-in my eyes he is an elite all star on defense and in this league you need one or two.
I absolutely love watching Marcus on the defensive end.  He is so communicative with his teammates, and is constantly directing traffic trying to make sure they are a cohesive 5-man wall. 

Additionally, I love watching Marcus try to defend 2 on 1 fast breaks.  He ALWAYS puts up a great vertical contest, and even if he gets called for a foul it's usually questionable if he fouled or made a clean defense of the shot.  He is a special player on the defensive end.

Agree on all of this. Also, his willingness to defend all five positions (loved that he got switched onto KAT, and KAT just passed it out to the perimeter(!)), and his ability to strip players in key moments (how about that takeaway from Taj Gibson with the game still in the balance)?

If he can improve his shot selection - which really should be doable - he's a very nice player.

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Marcus is a National TV analyst favorite, they appreciate watching him scrap and fight.

I understand that some on this forum can't see the value of Marcus, I just hope you don't learn a appreciate him after it's too late.

The kid is a real warrior. Not perfect mind you, but definitely a warrior.

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we have dennis rodman and people don't even realize it.

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If this team had Dennis Rodman instead of Marcus Smart, we would be considered contenders right now, nevermind next year when Hayward returns.
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If this team had Dennis Rodman instead of Marcus Smart, we would be considered ontenders right now, nevermind next year when Hayward returns.

we have dennis rodman and people don't even realize it.

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If this team had Dennis Rodman instead of Marcus Smart, we would be considered contenders right now, nevermind next year when Hayward returns.

Which Rodman? The early version who ran the floor and played amazing defense or the later one who only cared about padding his rebound numbers and did not want to defend jump shooters at all since they would sacrifice the said numbers? If it's the latter, I would really question how he would defend the stretch 4's of today. Not because he couldn't, but because his rebounding stats would suffer immensely.

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If this team had Dennis Rodman instead of Marcus Smart, we would be considered contenders right now, nevermind next year when Hayward returns.

Which Rodman? The early version who ran the floor and played amazing defense or the later one who only cared about padding his rebound numbers and did not want to defend jump shooters at all since they would sacrifice the said numbers? If it's the latter, I would really question how he would defend the stretch 4's of today. Not because he couldn't, but because his rebounding stats would suffer immensely.
First, your opinion of Rodman in his Spurs and Bulls days doesn't seem to fit with my memory of the defensive player Rodman was in those days. Rodman could and would defend 1-5 for his whole career in a era when switching on defense just didn't happen all that often. It was man on man and Rodman mostly guarded 4s in an era where the stretch 4 didn't really exist.

2nd, even if your recollection of Rodman is reality and mine isn't I would take either Rodman version in the starting lineup over Baynes. Great defense and 15 rebounds a game? Yeah, I will take that.

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If this team had Dennis Rodman instead of Marcus Smart, we would be considered contenders right now, nevermind next year when Hayward returns.

Which Rodman? The early version who ran the floor and played amazing defense or the later one who only cared about padding his rebound numbers and did not want to defend jump shooters at all since they would sacrifice the said numbers? If it's the latter, I would really question how he would defend the stretch 4's of today. Not because he couldn't, but because his rebounding stats would suffer immensely.
First, your opinion of Rodman in his Spurs and Bulls days doesn't seem to fit with my memory of the defensive player Rodman was in those days. Rodman could and would defend 1-5 for his whole career in a era when switching on defense just didn't happen all that often. It was man on man and Rodman mostly guarded 4s in an era where the stretch 4 didn't really exist.

2nd, even if your recollection of Rodman is reality and mine isn't I would take either Rodman version in the starting lineup over Baynes. Great defense and 15 rebounds a game? Yeah, I will take that.

Yeah, that's not accurate.

Detroit - A truly amazing perimeter defender. He would definitely be able to switch defensively and was a great athlete who ran the lanes like a gazelle and finish with some strong dunks. Towards the end of the Pistons era, the issues began to creep up. He wasn't defending the perimeter like before and became obsessed with his rebounding. This was really apparent in the year without Daly.

San Antonio - More obsession with padding his numbers. It was pretty disfunctional there to the point that they had to get Haley to try to keep him under wraps. Again, it's not because he couldn't defend the perimeter, but rather he didn't want to.

Chicago - People forget, but getting him was not a no-brainer. He had so many issues in SA because of his off-court antics and on-court selfishness, that there was serious concern if it would work out. Rodman gave more effort on the perimeter than the previous few seasons, but at this point he had also lost a step and was nowhere near the defender he was in Detroit. That said, he was an incredible post-defender during this time.

I don't know how he would make a similar impact in today's NBA if he was just relegated to the later year's version. Sure he would gobble up rebounds, but he would be such an offensive liability and it would be emphasized with today's game that's heavily predicated on spacing.