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I Feel Bad for Saying This.....
« on: December 31, 2017, 12:19:35 PM »

Offline straightouttabahstun

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Tatum is getting better. Brown is going to keep improving (He’d Be this years big story for us if it weren’t for Tatum). They may no doubt be above average to potentially elite at some point. And they’re going to get better QUICK. This makes me wonder, how does Hayward fit into this? He definitely can’t come off the bench. Tatum and Brown will definitely get more touches next year. We need more big men and bench depth if anything.

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« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2017, 12:48:58 PM »

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We all know Brad looks at positions as ball handlers, wings and bigs. So there's easily space for 3 wings. But let's break it down to typical positions.

Brown primarily plays the 2.
Hayward will play the 3.
Tatum will play the stretch 4.

No problem.
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« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2017, 12:54:28 PM »

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We all know Brad looks at positions as ball handlers, wings and bigs. So there's easily space for 3 wings. But let's break it down to typical positions.

Brown primarily plays the 2.
Hayward will play the 3.
Tatum will play the stretch 4.

No problem.

This was exactly the lineup opening night, before Hayward went down. Figure it will be back.

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« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2017, 12:57:53 PM »

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I believe what you will see is a lot less shots for Horford as he transitions into a rebounder/facilitator and shots being pretty easily divied up between Tatum, Bown, Kyrie and Haywsrd. For this reason I don't see any Celtic averaging above 22 ppg.

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« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2017, 01:50:32 PM »

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I believe what you will see is a lot less shots for Horford as he transitions into a rebounder/facilitator and shots being pretty easily divied up between Tatum, Bown, Kyrie and Haywsrd. For this reason I don't see any Celtic averaging above 22 ppg.
I think Irving/Hayward/Tatum will carry similar workloads.

Brown and Horford will be a clear notch below them in terms of shots

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« Reply #5 on: December 31, 2017, 02:28:21 PM »

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I think they can all co-exist as starters, but if there’s an odd man out it’s not Hayward.


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Don't feel bad. There was a small group of us that voiced our concerns over IT...in regards to his future role with the team and his upcoming contract. The group was vilified for this...until we traded him.

If Tatum is going to be our stretch 4 then IMO we need a bigger center that has attributes of Big Al. LAL currently have the 3rd worst record in the NBA and we could HOPE to grab our future big man in the upcoming draft and develop him next to Big Al (which would be great). But that again puts us at the mercy of those ping pong balls and we really do not have the best track record with that, but it is possible. Or we could trade for someone like Cousins, but he has x-factors as well.

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« Reply #7 on: December 31, 2017, 03:10:16 PM »

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We all know Brad looks at positions as ball handlers, wings and bigs. So there's easily space for 3 wings. But let's break it down to typical positions.

Brown primarily plays the 2.
Hayward will play the 3.
Tatum will play the stretch 4.

No problem.

There could be a bit of a problem depending on how the draft goes.  If push comes to shove I see Brown on the outside looking in.  Both Hayward and Brown can play SG and SF.  While Tatum can play some PF he is more deadly as a SF.  Like wise I'd say given their hight Hayward and Brown are more deadly at the SG position.  So if we get the LAL pick this year our pick will affects how our team shapes up long term. 

If we pick Michael Porter, then he will be our PF and Tatum will then be our SF leaving Hayward and Brown to vie for the SG spot.  The same thing if we draft Marvin Bagley, as he is a natural PF in the Chris Bosh/KG mold.  If we draft Mohamed Bamba or DeAndre Ayton then either of them would be our center of the future and Tatum would play PF, Hayward SF, and Brown SG.  Because I don't see Hayward coming off the bench, I really see Brown playing more of an Evan Turner/Marcus Smart 6th man role going forward into the future.   

On side note there are a bunch of UFA centers available this summer and I could legitimately see us making a run at Noel or Alex Len.  So I think that Porter will be the pick over Bamba if we draft 4 or 5.

I wouldn't mind seeing this roster for next year:

PG: Uncle Drew! / Rozier / Shane Larkin
SG: Hayward / Brown / Grayson Allen (dare I say Danny Ainge 2.0)
SF: Tatum / Morris / Semi Ojeleye
PF: Horford / Porter / Guerschon Yabusele
 C: Len / Baynes / Daniel Theis

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« Reply #8 on: December 31, 2017, 03:20:23 PM »

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I think they can all co-exist as starters, but if there’s an odd man out it’s not Hayward.

I agree. It’s the kid who can’t make a layup or free throw or dribble the ball. Brown!

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We all know Brad looks at positions as ball handlers, wings and bigs. So there's easily space for 3 wings. But let's break it down to typical positions.

Brown primarily plays the 2.
Hayward will play the 3.
Tatum will play the stretch 4.

No problem.

This was exactly the lineup opening night, before Hayward went down. Figure it will be back.

I am thinking this as well, not to mention i think between now and next season, Tatum should pack on at least 5-10 lb of muscle which is realistic. Which in my opinion should help him better play the 4

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1. Irving
2. Brown
3. Hayward
4. Tatum
5. Horford

That is a championship caliber starting five.
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I think they can all co-exist as starters, but if there’s an odd man out it’s not Hayward.

I agree. It’s the kid who can’t make a layup or free throw or dribble the ball. Brown!

No kidding. Sometimes he gets too excited I think. Turns into Kedrick Brown.

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« Reply #12 on: December 31, 2017, 03:59:54 PM »

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Hayward is far ahead of Tatum and Brown still. He’d be averaging around 20 a game right now if he were playing.

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Tatum is getting better. Brown is going to keep improving (He’d Be this years big story for us if it weren’t for Tatum). They may no doubt be above average to potentially elite at some point. And they’re going to get better QUICK. This makes me wonder, how does Hayward fit into this? He definitely can’t come off the bench. Tatum and Brown will definitely get more touches next year. We need more big men and bench depth if anything.

For a big lineup with someone like Baynes at the 5, I think it is easy to move either Tatum or Brown back to the bench, particularly Tatum as his scoring with the 2nd unit would be a huge plus.

They will wind up with an Irving-Brown-Hayward-Tatum-Horford group likely to close out games. 

In my view, this is why Danny did not extend Smart early this year.  If Smart is going to command a max or near max, the Cs cannot pay him that to be a 6th or 7th man.  If he can be resigned at a reasonable price (12-15M per) then he is back and the Cs have a dynamic 1-through-6 that can be changed throughout the year.


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« Reply #14 on: December 31, 2017, 04:33:35 PM »

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Warriors got 4 all stars on their team.
(And ex finals mvp on the bench)
That’s a good problem to have.