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Quote from: mef730 on December 01, 2017, 11:50:10 AMThere's a long way to go in the season. Brooklyn is a bottom-3 team.MikeOn what basis? It sure isn't on any statistics, point differentials or the standings? Just kind of trolling?
There's a long way to go in the season. Brooklyn is a bottom-3 team.Mike
Considering that Kyrie demanded a trade, I thought the Cavs got a terrific deal. They got a rotation player/starter in Crowder on a bargain contract, an allstar guard (albeit an injured one) in Isaiah, a young big who many on this board thought would have been a lotto pick in this past draft with Zizic, and what will be a top 1-8 lottery pick. Oh, and they got a decent 2nd rounder tossed in too. Usually in the NBA when you trade a disgruntled player that has demanded a trade you get crap in return. Or certainly, you get 50 to 75 cents on the dollar. I think the Cavs did very well. Key will be what Isaiah looks like when he comes back. If he's himself, he's going to really make that team tough to handle.
Quote from: Real World on December 02, 2017, 11:12:27 AMConsidering that Kyrie demanded a trade, I thought the Cavs got a terrific deal. They got a rotation player/starter in Crowder on a bargain contract, an allstar guard (albeit an injured one) in Isaiah, a young big who many on this board thought would have been a lotto pick in this past draft with Zizic, and what will be a top 1-8 lottery pick. Oh, and they got a decent 2nd rounder tossed in too. Usually in the NBA when you trade a disgruntled player that has demanded a trade you get crap in return. Or certainly, you get 50 to 75 cents on the dollar. I think the Cavs did very well. Key will be what Isaiah looks like when he comes back. If he's himself, he's going to really make that team tough to handle. I think the Cavs did very well too considering their situation. But didn't the Celtics did well also? We have Kyrie playing better than anyone expected and appearing to be the anchor of our team for years to come. I think both teams did well.When IT gets up to speed for CLE, they may be the best team in the league. They have won 12 in a row without him and they will add an elite player to the mix at a position of real need. They have been starting Jose Calderon at PG. Plus they can trade the BKN pick if they want to for more reinforcements.CLE is set but I would not reverse the trade. I like where the Celtics are with Kyrie and we still get to add in Hayward. CLE may win the title and then blow up with IT and LeBron leaving.
#Nets have played ONE game this season decided by 15 points or more. Competitive basketball on a nightly basis.
Quote from: Vermont Green on December 05, 2017, 03:30:02 PMQuote from: Real World on December 02, 2017, 11:12:27 AMConsidering that Kyrie demanded a trade, I thought the Cavs got a terrific deal. They got a rotation player/starter in Crowder on a bargain contract, an allstar guard (albeit an injured one) in Isaiah, a young big who many on this board thought would have been a lotto pick in this past draft with Zizic, and what will be a top 1-8 lottery pick. Oh, and they got a decent 2nd rounder tossed in too. Usually in the NBA when you trade a disgruntled player that has demanded a trade you get crap in return. Or certainly, you get 50 to 75 cents on the dollar. I think the Cavs did very well. Key will be what Isaiah looks like when he comes back. If he's himself, he's going to really make that team tough to handle. I think the Cavs did very well too considering their situation. But didn't the Celtics did well also? We have Kyrie playing better than anyone expected and appearing to be the anchor of our team for years to come. I think both teams did well.When IT gets up to speed for CLE, they may be the best team in the league. They have won 12 in a row without him and they will add an elite player to the mix at a position of real need. They have been starting Jose Calderon at PG. Plus they can trade the BKN pick if they want to for more reinforcements.CLE is set but I would not reverse the trade. I like where the Celtics are with Kyrie and we still get to add in Hayward. CLE may win the title and then blow up with IT and LeBron leaving.I pretty much agree with everything that Real World and Vermont Green said. However, I don't think IT makes them the best team in the league. That will pretty much always be GSW for the time being. Integrating IT is going to take some time. He is best when he has the ball in his hands. Changing up what LeBron has around him has always taken time. Look at the first 1/4 of the season when he went to Miami, or this season.
I pretty much agree with everything that Real World and Vermont Green said. However, I don't think IT makes them the best team in the league. That will pretty much always be GSW for the time being. Integrating IT is going to take some time. He is best when he has the ball in his hands. Changing up what LeBron has around him has always taken time. Look at the first 1/4 of the season when he went to Miami, or this season.
not you per se, but everyone in this thread makes it seem like they were always on board with the trade, which just wasn't the case. Most of this board was very upset when the trade was made, calling for Danny's head, saying we traded a top 3 pick for a lesser player and giving up a starter, etc.
Quote from: Moranis on December 01, 2017, 09:12:40 AMnot you per se, but everyone in this thread makes it seem like they were always on board with the trade, which just wasn't the case. Most of this board was very upset when the trade was made, calling for Danny's head, saying we traded a top 3 pick for a lesser player and giving up a starter, etc.Very revisionist history. Most of this board was absolutely on board with it.I, on the other hand, was not though I never once called for Danny's head (and I don't remember anyone doing so). I said we swapped IT for a younger version of IT and threw in a likely top 5 pick, Zizic and one of the better contracts in the NBA to boot.Of course, we had no idea that IT wouldn't be playing in November or even December. The Nets are exceeding expectation and I doubt anyone expected that Demarre Carroll would be averaging a career high in points. No one expected Jae Crowder to TS% to drop 80 points and his scoring to go down 5ppg. Few anticipated that Kyrie would be playing defense (though he's slipped considerably in recent games). Zizic, who many experts around the nation predicted would have been a later lottery pick, has a whopping 32 total minutes played. On this trade, everything is coming up Millhouse for Danny. Even he couldn't have predicted this. I expect the pendulum to swing back the other way at some point. But at this stage there's nothing for me to say but I was wrong. The trade looks brilliant because of all of these unforeseen (or highly unlikely) events.
Gotta love this one: "Ainge strikes again. I know it was reported the celtics wouldnt do it, but we should have held out of IT+Tatum or nothing. Would have rather sent him to Denver or the Suns. Creating our biggest obstacle in the East wasnt worth the 10th pick in the draft+diet Demarre Caroll and rolling the dice on ITs hip.Love the way the cavs have been playing without Kyrie, but as David Griffin said, history will not view this trade kindly for the Cavs."Diet Demarre Carroll Lol