Article on Marcus Smart's impact.

[kozlodoev]

I'm all for keeping Smart after this season, but only for a modest price. When stuff like this comes out, I'm afraid of what his price tag might be this off-season.

https://nbamath.com/marcus-smart-is-one-of-the-nbas-most-misunderstood-players/

Also this.

https://twitter.com/HPbasketball/status/930660039118880768

"He is not a great shooter (29.1 percent overall and 28.0 percent on threes)"

... way to sweep the fact that he's not simply "not great" but historically bad under the rug. NBAMath.com may know math... but does it know NBA?

All that stuff is fine. Just don't put him in a position to single-handedly bring the other team back into the game (see Q4 vs Brooklyn last night) and we'll be fine.

[kozlodoev]

https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/psl_finder.cgi?request=1&match=single&type=totals&per_minute_base=36&per_poss_base=100&season_start=1&season_end=-1&lg_id=NBA&age_min=0&age_max=99&is_playoffs=N&height_min=0&height_max=99&birth_country_is=Y&as_comp=gt&as_val=0&pos_is_g=Y&pos_is_gf=Y&pos_is_f=Y&pos_is_fg=Y&pos_is_fc=Y&pos_is_c=Y&pos_is_cf=Y&c1stat=fga_per_g&c1comp=gt&c1val=10&c2stat=mp&c2comp=gt&c2val=20&c3stat=g&c3comp=gt&c3val=10&order_by=fg_pct&order_by_asc=Y

Ouch.

Never a good thing to be in the company of the guys that played in the 50ies when we are talking about shooting %.

Marcus is definitely setting new boundaries for how poor can a guy shoot and still contribute.

Trivia: Joe Fulks led the league in scoring in 1947-48 (leagues 2. year) with 22.1 PPG while converting at a .259 clip.

But at least he now has competition.... hi, Lonzo

Also, with this filter, some seasons where minutes played weren't tracked won't show up. This seems a bit better:

http://bkref.com/tiny/Xka0l

[CelticsElite]

https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/psl_finder.cgi?request=1&match=single&type=totals&per_minute_base=36&per_poss_base=100&season_start=1&season_end=-1&lg_id=NBA&age_min=0&age_max=99&is_playoffs=N&height_min=0&height_max=99&birth_country_is=Y&as_comp=gt&as_val=0&pos_is_g=Y&pos_is_gf=Y&pos_is_f=Y&pos_is_fg=Y&pos_is_fc=Y&pos_is_c=Y&pos_is_cf=Y&c1stat=fga_per_g&c1comp=gt&c1val=10&c2stat=mp&c2comp=gt&c2val=20&c3stat=g&c3comp=gt&c3val=10&order_by=fg_pct&order_by_asc=Y

Ouch.

Never a good thing to be in the company of the guys that played in the 50ies when we are talking about shooting %.

Marcus is definitely setting new boundaries for how poor can a guy shoot and still contribute.

Trivia: Joe Fulks led the league in scoring in 1947-48 (leagues 2. year) with 22.1 PPG while converting at a .259 clip.

lol

[Vermont Green]

I have been a big Smart applauder from the start.  It is amazing that he can shoot so badly and still make a positive impact on the court.  This cannot go on though.  He won't get $10M per if he shoots 30% from the field for the season.  The window is closing on him.  He will get another contract, I wouldn't be surprised if it is with the Celtics.  But he needs to figure this out and soon.

[Mike Pemulis]

Rob Covington finalizing a 4 year 62 M contract to stay with Phili. This contract should help bring down Smart's leverage/asking price.

[CelticD]

Rob Covington finalizing a 4 year 62 M contract to stay with Phili. This contract should help bring down Smart's leverage/asking price.

Smart's market value has to be around that 10-12m a year mark then. It'd be really hard to justify something larger than that given what Covington signed for.

[timpiker]

I know Marcus has a few faults but I sure as hell hope we figure out a way to keep him without it costing too much in the way of $ and handicapping us from other deals.  I cringe when he's shooting bricks or chucking too much but I love watching him play.  He means so much to this team.

[Mike Pemulis]

Rob Covington finalizing a 4 year 62 M contract to stay with Phili. This contract should help bring down Smart's leverage/asking price.

Smart's market value has to be around that 10-12m a year mark then. It'd be really hard to justify something larger than that given what Covington signed for.

Agreed. I really want to keep him. Hopefully a player similar to Smart/Covington/Roberson gets lowballed and we can bring Smart's offer down. It'd at least be more leverage in keeping him between 10-12.

[RJ87]

If Smart gets 4/80M+ on the market, then he's gone, and frankly I wouldn't really lose sleep IF we lost him at that price.

Really hoping they can keep him though, at around 4/70M.

His shooting is poor enough if he doesn't turn it around something fierce its likely to depress his market value, especially as a RFA.

He might be back on the QO.

Eh I think he'll get an extension still, but hopefully the market does get lower so that we can keep him around 4 years, 60-70M.

I've said this before, but I think Phoenix will make a serious run at him. He'd be a great fit next to Booker.

[More Banners]

If Smart gets 4/80M+ on the market, then he's gone, and frankly I wouldn't really lose sleep IF we lost him at that price.

Really hoping they can keep him though, at around 4/70M.

His shooting is poor enough if he doesn't turn it around something fierce its likely to depress his market value, especially as a RFA.

He might be back on the QO.

Eh I think he'll get an extension still, but hopefully the market does get lower so that we can keep him around 4 years, 60-70M.

I've said this before, but I think Phoenix will make a serious run at him. He'd be a great fit next to Booker.

Good. Overpaying bench role players, which he is/would be with us, is just not a good idea. Danny has showed patience and discipline with such players in the past. If the trend holds, Marcus is gone.

[D Dub]

5/$65

Get it done!

We haven’t missed the playoffs since drafting Smart, he is our linchpin. 

And Brad loves him.  I can’t see us letting him walk.   

[jambr380]

Rob Covington finalizing a 4 year 62 M contract to stay with Phili. This contract should help bring down Smart's leverage/asking price.

Yikes, $15.5M/yr over 4 years is more than I thought a player like Covington could get. Things could get quite dicey with the Cs negotiations next offseason. At this point, I am fully expecting him to play for the QO before eventually moving on to a different team who will pay him to be their starting PG.

[tstorey_97]

KC Jones averaged something like 8 PPG.
They didn't need him to score...it's a team sport.

Watch Smart "walk" the ball towards the hoop, his defender chases him and Smart hits the brakes, ties him up and passes to a scorer. He creates "one man picks" over and over again underneath.

His "fly pattern" passes to team mates on steals just demonstrates his timing/IQ.

He will turn to s%&* from time to time during a game, but, never in a close game in the last minutes.

If the Celtics make it to the finals, he'll be on Curry with :15 on the clock....got any better ideas?

 

[CelticsJG]

Rob Covington finalizing a 4 year 62 M contract to stay with Phili. This contract should help bring down Smart's leverage/asking price.

Yikes, $15.5M/yr over 4 years is more than I thought a player like Covington could get. Things could get quite dicey with the Cs negotiations next offseason. At this point, I am fully expecting him to play for the QO before eventually moving on to a different team who will pay him to be their starting PG.

RoCo a high level 3-D player. Tats right in his price range. Smart ain't getting anywhere near that because he not as good as Cov.

[18isGREATERthan72]

Smart makes winning plays, but there is also NO reason he couldn't be shooting better.  They are not mutually exclusive.  He can continue to make these plays and shoot a more respectable FG%.  I don't expect him to be a lights out shooter, but I also don't expect him to be the worst shooter in history either.