Is 2017 rookie class the best since 2003

[nickagneta]

Time will tell. Lets check back in like 10 years and find out.

[vjcsmoke]

First of all Ben Simmons doesn't count as a 2017 rookie.  He was drafted in 2016.  I'm honestly doubtful he should even be in ROTY conversations since he's not a true rookie. 

This year's draft class has performed great out of the box though.  The main disappointment being Fultz.  But from 2 all the way to 27 you can make a case that these rookies have made impacts on their teams more deeply and sooner than expected.

[Stig]

I actually agree with the current NBA rule, if a draftee hasn't played, he should be considered a rookie. The same as a player get drafted and then stashed in another country. If you haven't seen him play on nba court at all, he's a rookie, regardless of the reason, get hurt/have another contract/don't get signed should be treated the same.

[moiso]

I actually agree with the current NBA rule, if a draftee hasn't played, he should be considered a rookie. The same as a player get drafted and then stashed in another country. If you haven't seen him play on nba court at all, he's a rookie, regardless of the reason, get hurt/have another contract/don't get signed should be treated the same.

Yeah, he's definitely a rookie but it's hard to use him as evidence that the draft we just had a few months ago was great.

[Erik]

Not sure why people think LonzoBall is playing well. He's posting historically bad numbers. I can at least respect "let's wait a full season" but to say he's playing well now? No clue what games you're watching.

[Darío SpanishFan]

First of all Ben Simmons doesn't count as a 2017 rookie.  He was drafted in 2016.  I'm honestly doubtful he should even be in ROTY conversations since he's not a true rookie. 

This year's draft class has performed great out of the box though.  The main disappointment being Fultz.  But from 2 all the way to 27 you can make a case that these rookies have made impacts on their teams more deeply and sooner than expected.

He does indeed.

You (as many) may not like the rule, but it is very clear.

[libermaniac]

First of all Ben Simmons doesn't count as a 2017 rookie.  He was drafted in 2016.  I'm honestly doubtful he should even be in ROTY conversations since he's not a true rookie. 

This year's draft class has performed great out of the box though.  The main disappointment being Fultz.  But from 2 all the way to 27 you can make a case that these rookies have made impacts on their teams more deeply and sooner than expected.

He does indeed.

You (as many) may not like the rule, but it is very clear.

This question should be about the 2017 DRAFT class as opposed to ROOKIE class. Nobody ever looks back at rookie classes.

[GratefulCs]

i still think you should only be counted as a rookie if you're on the first year of your rookie contract

BUT

this does seem like a great draft class

[Big333223]

It's funny to me that we have this conversation almost every year.

If you've never played an NBA game before, the first season you do is your rookie year. It's that simple and it's been that way forever. It's not going to change.

[GratefulCs]

I actually agree with the current NBA rule, if a draftee hasn't played, he should be considered a rookie. The same as a player get drafted and then stashed in another country. If you haven't seen him play on nba court at all, he's a rookie, regardless of the reason, get hurt/have another contract/don't get signed should be treated the same.

if you get to practice with an nba team for a whole year then you're not in the same boat as true rookies

it just seems so fake to have someone like simmons be a ROY candidate.


and YES i'm salty because tatum would be talked about more if simmons was considered a 2nd year player

[Stig]

You can make a case arguing which gives a player more edge, playing in another professional league for a whole year or sit on a bench of a terrible nba team.

[gouki88]

Not to hijack the thread, but if you could do the draft over today, how do you think it changes?  Here's my hottest of takes:

1. Tatum
2. Ball
3. Markkanen
4. Mitchell
5. Kuzma
6. Jackson
7. Monk
8. Fox
9. Smith
10. Fultz

1. Tatum
2. Smith
3. Markkanen
4. Mitchell
5. Fox
6. Ball
7. Jackson
8. Fultz
9. Monk
10. Isaac