Roy and every one else that had questions about the trade, appreciated the heck out of IT, and are going to wait for Kyrie to prove himself in the same manner as he did, don't deserve to be attacked. His points have always been valid, and despite some solid quarters (and tonight), Kyrie does still have a long way to go to warrant that trade. So let's play nice. It's a big sandbox.
Where you saying the same thing after IT's first season here, when people said it was only one season, he is just a sixth Man?
I was. I doubted him all the way, until the first quarter of last year. I was wrong. I am not going to spend this season waiting to believe my eyes with Kyrie.
Not at all. Loved IT from the jump and wanted to see him start ASAP. I can't remember exact comments, but I'm sure my posts will definitely reflect that.
Ogaju: I love me some Tatum.
So you loved IT from the jump, yet Kyrie is playing much better ball than IT did (even to start his first full season), yet you doubt Kyrie?
I get the whole "well we lost the trade angle" (even if I think getting the best player is winning the trade in the NBA, and disagree), but I seriously don't get people arguing IT is a better player.
He isn't.
Not one GM in this league would trade Kyrie for IT straight up.
Yet some here seem to think that is in question.
It isn't.
Kyrie is simply a better player than IT, without question.
I agree that there isn't a single GM that would trade Kyrie for IT straight up. As I GM, I wouldn't fathom it, either. But Kyrie's not the unanimously better player yet. Can he be? Sure. Is he already? It's possible, but he hasn't proven it yet imo.
I respect your right to your opinion, but lol.
That opinion goin' to look really silly real quick.
It is clear Kyrie is just a step above.
Well, "just a step" and being made to "look silly" don't really add up, brohammer.
But I legitimately just gave Kyrie the benefit of the doubt in every way. They were in two completely different circumstances -- IT carried a team, Kyrie took control in spots + LeBron + Cavs. In reverse roles, I think they would've probably been similarly successfully.
I don't think either side can end up losing this "Who is better?" debate, honestly. Kyrie has way more firepower than IT ever did -- with (begrudging) credit to Ainge, Brown and Tatum have been ridiculously good. But, it was an overpay; BKN could be just as good; their prior roles can't be reversed at this stage.