Author Topic: J. Okafor - Merged Thread  (Read 47534 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Re: J. Okafor - Merged Thread
« Reply #15 on: October 28, 2017, 11:17:41 AM »

Offline Moranis

  • James Naismith
  • *********************************
  • Posts: 34213
  • Tommy Points: 1585
Suns would make sense.

Okafor for Bledsoe

Or

Okafor, Bayless for Bledose, Chandler

Sixers cans add players like Korkmaz if necessary
2023 Historical Draft - Brooklyn Nets - 9th pick

Bigs - Pau, Amar'e, Issel, McGinnis, Roundfield
Wings - Dantley, Bowen, J. Jackson
Guards - Cheeks, Petrovic, Buse, Rip

Re: J. Okafor - Merged Thread
« Reply #16 on: October 28, 2017, 11:21:28 AM »

Offline hpantazo

  • Tommy Heinsohn
  • *************************
  • Posts: 25355
  • Tommy Points: 2756
Suns would make sense.

Okafor for Bledsoe

Or

Okafor, Bayless for Bledose, Chandler

Sixers cans add players like Korkmaz if necessary


Bledsoe would kill Fultz's development.

Re: J. Okafor - Merged Thread
« Reply #17 on: October 28, 2017, 11:35:42 AM »

Offline celticsclay

  • JoJo White
  • ****************
  • Posts: 16119
  • Tommy Points: 1407
Suns would make sense.

Okafor for Bledsoe

Or

Okafor, Bayless for Bledose, Chandler

Sixers cans add players like Korkmaz if necessary

I am a bit confused by both these deals. The team writers are speculating the 76ers may even waive Okafor if they can't get a deal worked out. Their coach has come out and said based on ability he is not in their rotation. I think Bledsoe and the suns have torpedoed his trade value, but a team would still at least give up a late first or a semi interesting prospect for him. From the 76ers perspective are they putting fultz on the bench the next two years? Simmons and fultz both operate with the ball in their hands, plus the offense is going To heavily involve embiid. How do those 4 play together? And then what happens to Reddick?

Re: J. Okafor - Merged Thread
« Reply #18 on: October 28, 2017, 11:49:02 AM »

Online tazzmaniac

  • Don Nelson
  • ********
  • Posts: 8464
  • Tommy Points: 569
Suns would make sense.

Okafor for Bledsoe

Or

Okafor, Bayless for Bledose, Chandler

Sixers cans add players like Korkmaz if necessary
Sixers won't do a trade that reduces their cap space until after they've renegotiated and extended Covington which can't happen until Nov 15.   

Re: J. Okafor - Merged Thread
« Reply #19 on: October 28, 2017, 12:19:42 PM »

Offline jambr380

  • K.C. Jones
  • *************
  • Posts: 13370
  • Tommy Points: 2005
  • Everybody knows what's best for you
I'm ready for Okafor - let's finally get this over with. The Sixers just need to decline his option and he can be traded for a future 2nd using the DPE. I realize he is probably a bust, but we have been talking about this guy for too long to not give him a chance and getting him essentially for free for less than a season would be the perfect opportunity to see if Stevens can get anything out of him.

And if it doesn't work out, well, we can still trade him by the deadline.

Re: J. Okafor - Merged Thread
« Reply #20 on: October 28, 2017, 12:21:40 PM »

Offline hwangjini_1

  • Kevin Garnett
  • *****************
  • Posts: 17977
  • Tommy Points: 2697
  • bammokja
shouldnt the thread title read "okafor on the block....as usual"?  ;D
I believe Gandhi is the only person who knew about real democracy — not democracy as the right to go and buy what you want, but democracy as the responsibility to be accountable to everyone around you. Democracy begins with freedom from hunger, freedom from unemployment, freedom from fear, and freedom from hatred.
- Vandana Shiva

Re: J. Okafor - Merged Thread
« Reply #21 on: October 28, 2017, 12:36:10 PM »

Offline Phantom255x

  • Walter Brown
  • ********************************
  • Posts: 32491
  • Tommy Points: 3129
  • On To Banner 19!
QUESTION: If we were to acquire Okafor via trade using DPE.. would we be acquiring his Bird Rights or not (for a future extension)?
"Tough times never last, but tough people do." - Robert H. Schuller

Re: J. Okafor - Merged Thread
« Reply #22 on: October 28, 2017, 01:33:10 PM »

Online tazzmaniac

  • Don Nelson
  • ********
  • Posts: 8464
  • Tommy Points: 569
Suns would make sense.

Okafor for Bledsoe

Or

Okafor, Bayless for Bledose, Chandler

Sixers cans add players like Korkmaz if necessary

I am a bit confused by both these deals. The team writers are speculating the 76ers may even waive Okafor if they can't get a deal worked out. Their coach has come out and said based on ability he is not in their rotation. I think Bledsoe and the suns have torpedoed his trade value, but a team would still at least give up a late first or a semi interesting prospect for him. From the 76ers perspective are they putting fultz on the bench the next two years? Simmons and fultz both operate with the ball in their hands, plus the offense is going To heavily involve embiid. How do those 4 play together? And then what happens to Reddick?
The Sixers may not pick up Okafor's 4th year option but their is no reason to waive him now.  Maybe they'd do so after the trade deadline. 

I agree that it should take a bit more to get Bledsoe but if the Sixers could get Bledsoe for Okafor and filler they have to do that.  Bledsoe, Redick, Covington, Simmons and Embiid is a playoff team in the East.  The Sixers need another shot creator in the starting lineup.  Bledsoe is also an improvement over Bayless defensively.

Fultz isn't ready to start.  He's been coming off the bench behind Bayless.  His development will take however long it takes.  There is no reason to force him into the starting lineup if he's not ready.  Not only does that hurt their playoff chances but it also would impede the development of Simmons and Embiid.  If Fultz develops quickly this year, they can turn around and trade Bledsoe.   

Re: J. Okafor - Merged Thread
« Reply #23 on: October 28, 2017, 01:33:21 PM »

Offline Celtics4ever

  • NCE
  • Johnny Most
  • ********************
  • Posts: 20000
  • Tommy Points: 1323
Quote
Suns would make sense.

Okafor for Bledsoe

Or

Okafor, Bayless for Bledose, Chandler

Except this really does not make sense in terms of basketball value for the Suns.

Re: J. Okafor - Merged Thread
« Reply #24 on: October 28, 2017, 01:41:39 PM »

Offline CelticsQuestFor18

  • Brad Stevens
  • Posts: 209
  • Tommy Points: 27
I wouldn't mind taking a flier on him using DPE, BUT Okafor looks like he will get moved ASAP, and Ainge will definitely just keep the DPE and use it later in the season (probably on a better player that's bought out by then). Danny won't be in a rush to make a trade and use the DPE now, whereas Okafor looks like he's going to get dealt real soon. Timing doesn't work out here.

Re: J. Okafor - Merged Thread
« Reply #25 on: October 28, 2017, 02:11:08 PM »

Offline celticsclay

  • JoJo White
  • ****************
  • Posts: 16119
  • Tommy Points: 1407
Suns would make sense.

Okafor for Bledsoe

Or

Okafor, Bayless for Bledose, Chandler

Sixers cans add players like Korkmaz if necessary

I am a bit confused by both these deals. The team writers are speculating the 76ers may even waive Okafor if they can't get a deal worked out. Their coach has come out and said based on ability he is not in their rotation. I think Bledsoe and the suns have torpedoed his trade value, but a team would still at least give up a late first or a semi interesting prospect for him. From the 76ers perspective are they putting fultz on the bench the next two years? Simmons and fultz both operate with the ball in their hands, plus the offense is going To heavily involve embiid. How do those 4 play together? And then what happens to Reddick?
The Sixers may not pick up Okafor's 4th year option but their is no reason to waive him now.  Maybe they'd do so after the trade deadline. 

I agree that it should take a bit more to get Bledsoe but if the Sixers could get Bledsoe for Okafor and filler they have to do that.  Bledsoe, Redick, Covington, Simmons and Embiid is a playoff team in the East.  The Sixers need another shot creator in the starting lineup.  Bledsoe is also an improvement over Bayless defensively.

Fultz isn't ready to start.  He's been coming off the bench behind Bayless.  His development will take however long it takes.  There is no reason to force him into the starting lineup if he's not ready.  Not only does that hurt their playoff chances but it also would impede the development of Simmons and Embiid.  If Fultz develops quickly this year, they can turn around and trade Bledsoe.

If nobody is offering anything for Okafor cause the league has determined he is not worth the 6+ million dollar contract he is on, and brown has emphatically said he is not in the rotation, why wouldn't they just waive him or do a buyout? They would get good will from his agent and other players in the league (which honestly they could probably use a little of) and they do not have a distraction for a 4th string center.

Re: J. Okafor - Merged Thread
« Reply #26 on: October 28, 2017, 02:23:19 PM »

Offline Moranis

  • James Naismith
  • *********************************
  • Posts: 34213
  • Tommy Points: 1585
Suns would make sense.

Okafor for Bledsoe

Or

Okafor, Bayless for Bledose, Chandler

Sixers cans add players like Korkmaz if necessary

I am a bit confused by both these deals. The team writers are speculating the 76ers may even waive Okafor if they can't get a deal worked out. Their coach has come out and said based on ability he is not in their rotation. I think Bledsoe and the suns have torpedoed his trade value, but a team would still at least give up a late first or a semi interesting prospect for him. From the 76ers perspective are they putting fultz on the bench the next two years? Simmons and fultz both operate with the ball in their hands, plus the offense is going To heavily involve embiid. How do those 4 play together? And then what happens to Reddick?
The Sixers may not pick up Okafor's 4th year option but their is no reason to waive him now.  Maybe they'd do so after the trade deadline. 

I agree that it should take a bit more to get Bledsoe but if the Sixers could get Bledsoe for Okafor and filler they have to do that.  Bledsoe, Redick, Covington, Simmons and Embiid is a playoff team in the East.  The Sixers need another shot creator in the starting lineup.  Bledsoe is also an improvement over Bayless defensively.

Fultz isn't ready to start.  He's been coming off the bench behind Bayless.  His development will take however long it takes.  There is no reason to force him into the starting lineup if he's not ready.  Not only does that hurt their playoff chances but it also would impede the development of Simmons and Embiid.  If Fultz develops quickly this year, they can turn around and trade Bledsoe.

If nobody is offering anything for Okafor cause the league has determined he is not worth the 6+ million dollar contract he is on, and brown has emphatically said he is not in the rotation, why wouldn't they just waive him or do a buyout? They would get good will from his agent and other players in the league (which honestly they could probably use a little of) and they do not have a distraction for a 4th string center.
because he is insurance for Embiid. In fact the gane Embiid sat, Okafor played and scored 10 points and grabbed 9 rebounds. There is no reason to waive him
2023 Historical Draft - Brooklyn Nets - 9th pick

Bigs - Pau, Amar'e, Issel, McGinnis, Roundfield
Wings - Dantley, Bowen, J. Jackson
Guards - Cheeks, Petrovic, Buse, Rip

Re: J. Okafor - Merged Thread
« Reply #27 on: October 28, 2017, 02:36:33 PM »

Offline CelticsElite

  • NCE
  • Danny Ainge
  • **********
  • Posts: 10774
  • Tommy Points: 789
If he comes here he plays behind Horford and Baynes for sure.  Theis might add more to the team.  Okafor is in a bad situation yes but his game is his offensive low post moves and that is it.  I see him at best backup center in league somewhere
true

Re: J. Okafor - Merged Thread
« Reply #28 on: October 28, 2017, 02:45:02 PM »

Online tazzmaniac

  • Don Nelson
  • ********
  • Posts: 8464
  • Tommy Points: 569
Suns would make sense.

Okafor for Bledsoe

Or

Okafor, Bayless for Bledose, Chandler

Sixers cans add players like Korkmaz if necessary

I am a bit confused by both these deals. The team writers are speculating the 76ers may even waive Okafor if they can't get a deal worked out. Their coach has come out and said based on ability he is not in their rotation. I think Bledsoe and the suns have torpedoed his trade value, but a team would still at least give up a late first or a semi interesting prospect for him. From the 76ers perspective are they putting fultz on the bench the next two years? Simmons and fultz both operate with the ball in their hands, plus the offense is going To heavily involve embiid. How do those 4 play together? And then what happens to Reddick?
The Sixers may not pick up Okafor's 4th year option but their is no reason to waive him now.  Maybe they'd do so after the trade deadline. 

I agree that it should take a bit more to get Bledsoe but if the Sixers could get Bledsoe for Okafor and filler they have to do that.  Bledsoe, Redick, Covington, Simmons and Embiid is a playoff team in the East.  The Sixers need another shot creator in the starting lineup.  Bledsoe is also an improvement over Bayless defensively.

Fultz isn't ready to start.  He's been coming off the bench behind Bayless.  His development will take however long it takes.  There is no reason to force him into the starting lineup if he's not ready.  Not only does that hurt their playoff chances but it also would impede the development of Simmons and Embiid.  If Fultz develops quickly this year, they can turn around and trade Bledsoe.

If nobody is offering anything for Okafor cause the league has determined he is not worth the 6+ million dollar contract he is on, and brown has emphatically said he is not in the rotation, why wouldn't they just waive him or do a buyout? They would get good will from his agent and other players in the league (which honestly they could probably use a little of) and they do not have a distraction for a 4th string center.
Being out of a team's rotation is not a reason to waive a player especially when they are not causing a stink about it.  All we know is that no team offered enough to entice Colangelo to trade Okafor in the past.  That doesn't mean there weren't any offers.  Colangelo is likely to take less now.  Wouldn't be surprised to see a Portis and a 2nd (or fake 1st) for Okafor deal.   

Agent and player goodwill won't buy you a cup of coffee.  In any case, why would the Sixers and Colangelo have an issue with that.  They just gave Embiid a max contract after playing only 31 games.  They gave Redick 3 times as much as he's earned in a year.  They are about to renegotiate and extend Covington.


Re: J. Okafor - Merged Thread
« Reply #29 on: October 28, 2017, 03:12:42 PM »

Offline SHAQATTACK

  • James Naismith
  • *********************************
  • Posts: 37483
  • Tommy Points: 2999
Here another opportunity for Danny to fleece Philly