OUR rookie Jayson OUR Jaylen

[SHAQATTACK]

Tatum makes Morris seem like last decads used car .   Obsolete

[kozlodoev]

Tatum makes Morris seem like last decads used car .   Obsolete

Yes, if only Tatum could play all 5 positions for the full 48 minutes...

[moiso]

And whats your MO saying Semmi sucks,no motor ,no hustle,no diving for loose balls -no defense -when Brad states just the opposite,his athleticism and lateral are chronicled and he hits from outside
.Or the progress Nader had in d league and his elite wingspan and use of either hand at rim while we suffered through James young. Wasn't it Blakely that tweeted Nader played rock solid in his minutes recently.Did i ever claim that Nader was more than a scorer, from deep on bench and that semmi had pushed him further back-
Reporting d league results is not over hyping,posting that someday Semmi may eclipse Crowder is not over hyping-
And posting that they don't even know if Simmons shoots with the right hand -that he shot 3 three point shots at LSU and  three shots from three. hitting zero for Philly and maybe only one at LSU-
That is a huge huge flag, as is his foul shooting going forward.The press is touting him as rookie of year and has OUR guy down the list.
If Simmons played on a playoff team  he would be exploited with game plans and a liability in 4th quarter-Tatum has no glaring holes in his game-you can take Simmons  but that outside shot is going to be a nightmare to correct if ever.-i'll take Jaylen and Tatum over Simmons and Fultz.Right now!!!!

It seems you are critical to the point of hyperbole of our players and our rookies.
Ask Chicago if Gerald Green was like a knife in the back and didn't play a big part in their losing the last two games of playoffs.-Brad stated how much he feared Green and then there was the chemistry with Isaiah.

Ask Gerald if he has a job.  Chances are that you can ask Nader the same question in a couple years.

[vjcsmoke]

Excuse you?  Our untalented Scrubs?
Brown is looking better than Ingram this year. 18.8 ppg vs 14.7 ppg

19 year old Tatum already is demonstrating a far more complete all around game than Simmons who is not really even a rookie.

It's not just hype.  Open your eyes.

Reverse-homerism may be the cool thing to do these days but it's really really inaccurate to call Brown and Tatum scrubs considering how well they are playing right now.

I dont get why we have to put down other rookies to praise our own players.

The MO is to criticize other teams talented guys, overhype our untalented scrubs.

Simmons can play and if he gets any semblance of respectability on his shot, then look out. I do think it's interesting to compare some of our picks to the Lakers picks since a few of them were taken back-to-back.

2014
#6 Smart - #7 Randle

2015
#27 Nance - #28 Hunter
#33 Mickey - #34 Brown

2016
#2 Ingram - #3 Brown
#31 Davis (trade to Mem) - #32 Zubac

2017
#2 Ball - #3 Tatum

[rollie mass]

They are our rookies and (suck was your term)What was your term for james young while i gave naders stats and elite length and ability to score with either hand -and young could not get to hoop and had no right hand what soever.It was you that wailed away at semmi The Rookie,even after brad kept praising his defense-and couldn't wait to put up john karalis takedown with some very flawed interpretation..
I have stated that i prefer brown and Tatum
I read today that front office thought jayson could grow 2-3 inches and he has shown good handles in transition and his court vision should get better with experience-Tatum hasn't even played to his strength the mid range post ups
His work ethic  and temperament are way beyond his years and his early season injury delayed his season at Duke.

There are those that think Simmons is shooting with wrong hand-what if they are right.If simmons doesn't improve his jump shot and can't shoot from three and Tatum is two years younger-who would you take?
Simmons shooting as you would say" sucks."
Didn't you watch the smoothness and arc of both tatum and jaylen-the quick of brown to hoop and his defense-Tatum shoots 80% from line, who do you want in 4th quarter with a defense daring you to shoot and if you do penetrate they foul and your shooting 50% from line--think of clock winding dow or how his inability puts pressure on other players -he can't even take a corner three.

[liam]

Tatum makes Morris seem like last decads used car .   Obsolete

Yes, if only Tatum could play all 5 positions for the full 48 minutes...

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[rollie mass]

And whats your MO saying Semmi sucks,no motor ,no hustle,no diving for loose balls -no defense -when Brad states just the opposite,his athleticism and lateral are chronicled and he hits from outside
.Or the progress Nader had in d league and his elite wingspan and use of either hand at rim while we suffered through James young. Wasn't it Blakely that tweeted Nader played rock solid in his minutes recently.Did i ever claim that Nader was more than a scorer, from deep on bench and that semmi had pushed him further back-
Reporting d league results is not over hyping,posting that someday Semmi may eclipse Crowder is not over hyping-

And posting that they don't even know if Simmons shoots with the right hand -that he shot 3 three point shots at LSU and  three shots from three. hitting zero for Philly and maybe only one at LSU-
That is a huge huge flag, as is his foul shooting going forward.The press is touting him as rookie of year and has OUR guy down the list.
If Simmons played on a playoff team  he would be exploited with game plans and a liability in 4th quarter-Tatum has no glaring holes in his game-you can take Simmons  but that outside shot is going to be a nightmare to correct if ever.-i'll take Jaylen and Tatum over Simmons and Fultz.Right now!!!!

It seems you are critical to the point of hyperbole of our players and our rookies.
Ask Chicago if Gerald Green was like a knife in the back and didn't play a big part in their losing the last two games of playoffs.-Brad stated how much he feared Green and then there was the chemistry with Isaiah.

Ask Gerald if he has a job.  Chances are that you can ask Nader the same question in a couple years.

Green was 31 year old vet that helped win the chicago series,
 Nader next to last in draft,a rookie and made the roster and has played and performed in NBA games-And exceeded all expectations-an end of bench wing where we are loaded and your predicting two years out.He is already a success story.

[Eddie20]

Excuse you?  Our untalented Scrubs?
Brown is looking better than Ingram this year. 18.8 ppg vs 14.7 ppg

19 year old Tatum already is demonstrating a far more complete all around game than Simmons who is not really even a rookie.

It's not just hype.  Open your eyes.

Reverse-homerism may be the cool thing to do these days but it's really really inaccurate to call Brown and Tatum scrubs considering how well they are playing right now

I obviously wan't referring to Tatum or Brown as I literally called them "phenomenal prospects" in this very thread.

[Eddie20]

And whats your MO saying Semmi sucks,no motor ,no hustle,no diving for loose balls -no defense -when Brad states just the opposite,his athleticism and lateral are chronicled and he hits from outside
.Or the progress Nader had in d league and his elite wingspan and use of either hand at rim while we suffered through James young. Wasn't it Blakely that tweeted Nader played rock solid in his minutes recently.Did i ever claim that Nader was more than a scorer, from deep on bench and that semmi had pushed him further back-
Reporting d league results is not over hyping,posting that someday Semmi may eclipse Crowder is not over hyping-

And posting that they don't even know if Simmons shoots with the right hand -that he shot 3 three point shots at LSU and  three shots from three. hitting zero for Philly and maybe only one at LSU-
That is a huge huge flag, as is his foul shooting going forward.The press is touting him as rookie of year and has OUR guy down the list.
If Simmons played on a playoff team  he would be exploited with game plans and a liability in 4th quarter-Tatum has no glaring holes in his game-you can take Simmons  but that outside shot is going to be a nightmare to correct if ever.-i'll take Jaylen and Tatum over Simmons and Fultz.Right now!!!!

It seems you are critical to the point of hyperbole of our players and our rookies.
Ask Chicago if Gerald Green was like a knife in the back and didn't play a big part in their losing the last two games of playoffs.-Brad stated how much he feared Green and then there was the chemistry with Isaiah.

Ask Gerald if he has a job.  Chances are that you can ask Nader the same question in a couple years.

Green was 31 year old vet that won the chicago series,

A guy that shot 43% from the field, 66.7% from the line, and scored 9 ppg in 17.7 mpg won us the Bulls series? Rollie, do you see why it's so difficult to have an intelligent debate with you? You continually hyped up the Green signing with thread after thread, even saying something ridiculous like "the stars have aligned", and he proceeded to be unplayable during the regular season. Stevens inserts him to try something different against the Bulls and in a few games he played unlike Green, which means he wasn't completely useless. The Celtics didn't want him back after that "heroic" performance, he signed with the Bucks, was cut, and is now jobless. You were wrong about Green. You had very high expectations and he disappointed, something he's done to many fanbases. However, instead of acknowledging that you overrated him, you continue to harp on a few decent games, out of a possible 100, to try to save face. That's pretty weak, man.


The cumulative stats from the series. Draw your own conclusions on who "won us" the series.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/2017-nba-eastern-conference-first-round-bulls-vs-celtics.html

[rollie mass]

Gerald green scored 18pts  went 4-9 from 3pt .446-7-13 .568% from floor with 7 rebound against Chicago april 23
april 28 went for 16pts on 3-8pt .375% and 6-13 from floor .462%-in both those games his energy was instrumental
and on 4/21 he went 2-3 from three .667%
Its is common knowledge how instrumental his energy and ability to to create was in victory over chicago-
If you want to debate join a team-
There is no debate except in your head

As to stars have aligned  it was in context of his return to celtics and his pairing with isaiah that was a deadly duo with suns-the highest scoring duo in league off the bench.Isaiah eas excited he was coming and said what a good shooter he was.
Also i quoted Brad and used the word stilletto in Brads hands--you brought up Green as you invaded MY MESSAGES after be told to bugger off.
Green rescued the Chicago series as he altered their defenses and had two double digit game and was hitting threes
Beyond that Jaylen said he learned the most from Green-Green was a great teammate and always an active positive force on the bench

[nickagneta]

You know guys(Eddie, rollie) you might want to just ignore each others posts as every thread you post in comes down to the same subject, which in this case, and many others, is off topic. Just some advice.

I happen to love Tatum and Brown. I think they will be All-Star players and maybe even All-NBA players in the future. I could care less if Tatum wins ROY. Just keep developing. The sky is the limit.

[Celtics4ever]

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Tatum makes Morris seem like last decads used car .   Obsolete

Trouble is he will get in foul  trouble and Morris has good purpose for our bench.

[mspring]

I noticed that Horford commented that Tatum and Brown's defense may have been even more impressive than their offense in the Knick's game, which got me thinking of comparisons to Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen. 

Now before you go off on me, I know they are too young to make that kind of comparison, but I have mostly been focusing on their offense.  If they can bring consistently disruptive defense to the equation and also produce at a high level offensively, that made me think of Jordan and Pippen.  You never know...dream big!

[RockinRyA]

I dont get why we have to put down other rookies to praise our own players.

The MO is to criticize other teams talented guys, overhype our untalented scrubs.

Simmons can play and if he gets any semblance of respectability on his shot, then look out. I do think it's interesting to compare some of our picks to the Lakers picks since a few of them were taken back-to-back.

2014
#6 Smart - #7 Randle

2015
#27 Nance - #28 Hunter
#33 Mickey - #34 Brown

2016
#2 Ingram - #3 Brown
#31 Davis (trade to Mem) - #32 Zubac

2017
#2 Ball - #3 Tatum

Yeah I get the Lakers comparisons, because both teams could really have gone with either of the prospects.

But some people are already saying definite things about Ball or Simmons, like they wont improve for sure, or that Tatum and Brown can't regress. Sure maybe guys like Ingram you have 1 year of data it might be more accurate, but even then its hard to tell. Right now Simmons has great tools with holes in his game, same with Jaylen, even guys like Yabu has potential with holes in his game. This things MIGHT not be forever, its too early to say. That's what I've been saying.

Its fine to point out aspects of their game, but things are not set in stone.

[Beat LA]

You know guys(Eddie, rollie) you might want to just ignore each others posts as every thread you post in comes down to the same subject, which in this case, and many others, is off topic. Just some advice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-655gTy2xtc