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Morris-remember loscy
« on: October 06, 2017, 07:29:46 AM »

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Has an asset that few talk about durability and he seems to have a game that is pretty even keeled.His balance of weight, height, strength and fluidity will make him a solid contributor at both ends.
A change of teams can often be a catalyst and you know brad makes people better.
The defensive identity can now shift to marcus,marcus,jaylen,rozier, and theis/baynes .

Loscy's job was to protect Russell said Red-Morris should see the only name in rafters is Losky because instead of retiring his number he wanted someone else to wear 18. That number went on to be retired for Dave Cowens.
So Boston has a way of honoring the tough guy enforcer


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« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2017, 07:40:51 AM »

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Rollie you are  dead on. I think Morris will do that type of work. With the trial stress gone maybe he can give us 14 a night too. Baynes and Theiss we tough too.
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« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2017, 07:53:52 AM »

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Is that really necessary in today's NBA? While I love the old school tough guys too they had a place on the court to protect the teams stars.

Morris is a much better player than a goon. Actually I think Celtics fans will be surprised on how well he can bring it on both ends of the floor. I always hate seeing a Morris twin on the floor because you knew they could put in work.

I recently saw an interview with AB on youtube where he talks about guys early in his career trying to get at him because he wasn't "street" but that mentallty isn't as strong anymore as most of these guys played AAU and are gym rats. I'm willing to bet very few of the guys coming into the NBA now picked up their games from park/street ball.
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this team , needed another Perk type big to not let the other team pick on and damage the small built players. .   Kelly O.  had to be the biggest sissy to ever wear a Celtics jersey.    He was scard of defending , playing near the paint , and basically let other players run all over him.  Morris won't tollerate being abused like Kelly .   

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« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2017, 08:28:31 AM »

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Ask Crowder-first Perk laid him out with a blind side screen then JR--Markief went after Horford,
Green for the Warriors is dirty-Rarely do players throw a punch.All you need is a push in the back
 a hard blind side screen,or a moving screen or a shove in the back on a break away or dunking ,a hip check or worse a knee.
I agree morris is much better but he brought it up in his interview "The Bully" i think he said was to be part of his game.Sometimes it can  even be just trash talk
The refs are watching on giving players landing space and moving screens this season.

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I'd worry less about him being an enforcer and more about his t-Rex arms, which is part of the reason he's a poor rebounder, and his knack of being a ball stopper. The last part is a concern that he will have to adapt to in order to flourish in Stevens' system. Morris loves holding the ball, going 1 on 1, and taking long 2's after jab stepping several times. He has a Melo type game without the skill or rebounding Melo has/had.

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Eddie makes good points. Morris is a good player, but he does have flaws. But the flaws mentioned by Eddie seem more mental than physical. (Alligator arms aside.)

If so, then maybe CBS can work his magic on him, ala turner and Crawford.

But, in any case, we will know by the end of the season.
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« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2017, 09:44:04 AM »

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eddie-uses hyperbole negativism-to the point of being unable to research -at draft combine marcus measured a 6-10 wingspan to 6-8 3/4 in trainers but without shoes measured 6-7
acoording to matt kamalasky i quote" Morris is not a elite physical specimen but he did registar a positive wingspan to height ratio(6-10 6-7) and a solid 230" this is may 21,2011
A far cry from t-rex arms Marcus says he is 6-8 with 6-10 wingspan this was in interview after combine results and laughed but didn't like the t rex rap from some previous summer camp-but as a power forward drafted in first round he had the shortest wingspan-
In interview with draft express Marcus said he patterned his game after Carmello and Paul Pierce

He ranked third in efficiency and was the best in country back to the basket
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Statistically Morris is one of the best defenders to cover Lebron. I think that is why Danny got him.

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eddie-uses hyperbole negativism-to the point of being unable to research -at draft combine marcus measured a 6-10 wingspan to 6-8 3/4 in trainers but without shoes measured 6-7
acoording to matt kamalasky i quote" Morris is not a elite physical specimen but he did registar a positive wingspan to height ratio(6-10 6-7) and a solid 230" this is may 21,2011
A far cry from t-rex arms Marcus says he is 6-8 with 6-10 wingspan this was in interview after combine results and laughed but didn't like the t rex rap from some previous summer camp-but as a power forward drafted in first round he had the shortest wingspan-
In interview draft express said he patterned his game after Carmello and Paul Pierce

There are 3 noted measurements on draft express:

2 had him listed at 6'9 (w/shoes) and a 6'7 wingspan. The other has him at 6'8 3/4 (w/shoes) and a 6'10 wingspan.

Based on DX data, the average NBA player is said to have a wingspan of 4.4 inches greater than their height, so anything below that is below average. So, yeah, Morris' wingspan is considered poor regardless of whichever one you'd like to use.

Rollie, I don't think you're understanding the quote you posted. The reason why he used the word "positive" is because he recorded negative height to wingspan on 2 separate measurements. So positive doesn't mean good. It just means he's not in the red.
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I do think toughness matters. Last year everyone thought the C's were going to be a great defensive team and cause a ton of turnovers because they had all of these great defenders in Avery, Smart, Crowder, Amir, and Horford. And then it just didn't happen. The team was totally mediocre on defense. Why?

I think they just had no toughness in the middle. Amir was washed last year and Horford just isn't a tough guy. This season, I think Morris brings a mentality that only Smart had on last year's team and Baynes brings a physicality that no one on last year's team had. And switching out 6'2" Avery Bradley for 6'7" Jaylen Brown means a longer, more physical defense.

I have a feeling I'm going to like Morris and I think this is going to be a better defensive team than last year's squad because of the size and toughness upgrades.
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« Reply #11 on: October 06, 2017, 10:40:51 AM »

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i think you used outdated camp measurements from 2010 in an attempt to smear a player look at complete draft combine results  including his brothers-from standing reach to hand measurements-You tell me that draft combine results shouldn't be used over 2010 camp results .As i said you will go to any length((HA HA) to disparage our players.

Matter of fact two years in a row went to Loscutoff basketball camps he looked huge and was only 6-5 according to the stats.

Oh i understand  i also posted he had shortest wingspan of any first round power forwards
-i think it is you that didn't understand what you were calling t-rex and are trying to snake out after being caught out using old flawed stats to insult.
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i think you used outdated camp measurements from 2010 in an attempt to smear a player look at complete draft combine results  including his brothers-from standing reach to hand measurements-You tell me that draft combine results shouldn't be used over 2010 camp results .As i said you will go to any length((HA HA) to disparage our players.
Matter of fact two years in a row went to Loscutoff basketball camps he looked huge and was only 6-5 according to the stats.

The 2 measurements where he was a negative was from 2010 and the one you used was from 2011. So maybe he shrunk in height, but his arms grew during those long 12 months.

Rollie, I'm being realistic here. Morris is a decent player, but it's funny how suddenly players become great when they wear green.

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Answer this!!! What stats are more professional and complete-2011 combine measurements
  or 2010 Amare Studemire Camp and as i said you were willing to use incomplete flawed data as fact over current,complete set of measurement taken for draft purposes.And posted on a board an insult to Marcus where it could have been thought off as fact and then repeated-i

WHATS YOUR PROBLEM-ARE YOU IN DENIAL-and just a hater
I think you should get real

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Answer this!!! What stats are more professional and complete-2011 combine measurements
  or 2010 Amare Studemire Camp and as i said you were willing to use incomplete flawed data as fact over current,complete set of measurement taken for draft purposes.And posted on a board an insult to Marcus where it could have been thought off as fact and then repeated-i

WHATS YOUR PROBLEM-ARE YOU IN DENIAL-and just a hater
I think you should get real

Rollie, are you doing okay? It's hard to take you serious when you refuse to acknowledge weaknesses of our players. This doesn't make you less of a fan, it just means you're analyzing things objectively.

Morris has his strengths, but he also has his weaknesses. In fact, all players do so it's fine to acknowledge them.

His weaknesses are:

Rebounding - This is where his wingspan hurts. As a 3 it's not as much of a concern, but he'll be playing a lot of 4 (without Drummond cleaning up the glass), so I worry about his rebounding.

Ball movement - Is a ball stopper. Loves playing isolation ball.

Shot selection - Takes a lot of long highly contested 2's. Doesn't attack the basket (averages only about 2 free throw attempts per game). This is another reason his shooting percentage is in the low 40's.

He's not bad, but he's also not that good. He's on 3rd team since 2015 and he'll be gone in 2 years or less.