ShamWow: Celtics + Cavs actively talking Kyrie/IT swap (UPDATE: Deal Done Did)

[fairweatherfan]

!!!!!

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/900115326175784961

[Fafnir]

 

Not  a fan....

[PhoSita]

This is genuinely sickening to me.

Maybe it makes sense on paper, but it's a player I really like a lot for a player I really don't enjoy.

Genuine source of anxiety.  And I'm still at work.  Ugh.

[fairweatherfan]

This is genuinely sickening to me.

Maybe it makes sense on paper, but it's a player I really like a lot for a player I really don't enjoy.

Genuine source of anxiety.  And I'm still at work.  Ugh.

Feel the same way. Kyrie's more talented and younger with a better deal and will probably age a lot better than IT, but lacks that grit that IT brings.

[Fafnir]

This is genuinely sickening to me.

Maybe it makes sense on paper, but it's a player I really like a lot for a player I really don't enjoy.

Genuine source of anxiety.  And I'm still at work.  Ugh.

very glad I'm home, less glad that I already just ran. It'd be nice to run of the sudden anxiety about this potential move.

[CelticSooner]

A swap straight up? I could handle that but I don't see Ainge doing anything else.

[Fafnir]

This is genuinely sickening to me.

Maybe it makes sense on paper, but it's a player I really like a lot for a player I really don't enjoy.

Genuine source of anxiety.  And I'm still at work.  Ugh.

Feel the same way. Kyrie's more talented and younger with a better deal and will probably age a lot better than IT, but lacks that grit that IT brings.

And I feel like IT has gotten better since becoming a star. Kyrie I haven't seen that sort of growth.

Not to mention we'll be giving up young players and valuable contracts to get a player who is as good as IT right now.....

[tarheelsxxiii]

This is genuinely sickening to me.

Maybe it makes sense on paper, but it's a player I really like a lot for a player I really don't enjoy.

Genuine source of anxiety.  And I'm still at work.  Ugh.

Right there with ya. 

[fairweatherfan]

I kinda hope they ask for too much so we don't have to second-guess this forever. But Danny's job is to look into this sort of opportunity. Feels wrong no matter how much sense it makes on paper. But so did the KG/Pierce trade I suppose.

[Fafnir]

A swap straight up? I could handle that but I don't see Ainge doing anything else.

Cannot be a straight swap due to their respective salaries.

Kyrie makes 17 million IT makes 7 million

[PhoSita]

This is genuinely sickening to me.

Maybe it makes sense on paper, but it's a player I really like a lot for a player I really don't enjoy.

Genuine source of anxiety.  And I'm still at work.  Ugh.

Feel the same way. Kyrie's more talented and younger with a better deal and will probably age a lot better than IT, but lacks that grit that IT brings.

For me, Kyrie is basically Deluxe Jamal Crawford.


Talent to take over games.  Obviously an All-Star type on the offensive end, on an individual basis.

I'm just not sure his actual impact overall is in line with the impression he leaves as a result of his isolation / rim finishing / big shot prowess.

[GreenFaith1819]

Please Danny -

Just say no.

[PhoSita]

This is genuinely sickening to me.

Maybe it makes sense on paper, but it's a player I really like a lot for a player I really don't enjoy.

Genuine source of anxiety.  And I'm still at work.  Ugh.

Feel the same way. Kyrie's more talented and younger with a better deal and will probably age a lot better than IT, but lacks that grit that IT brings.

And I feel like IT has gotten better since becoming a star. Kyrie I haven't seen that sort of growth.

Not to mention we'll be giving up young players and valuable contracts to get a player who is as good as IT right now.....

I'm not sure Kyrie has ever tried to make anybody else on his team better.


Thomas is obviously a scorer first and foremost, but I think he's a leader, whereas Kyrie just wants to be the guy who takes and makes the shots that matter.

[RJ87]

Depends on what the other pieces involved are, but I'd be on board if it goes down.

Welcome to the trade rumor cycle, IT. You're officially one of Ainge's Celtics.

[CelticSooner]

A swap straight up? I could handle that but I don't see Ainge doing anything else.

Cannot be a straight swap due to their respective salaries.

Kyrie makes 17 million IT makes 7 million

Then it won't happen. IT/Crowder for Kyrie? Slight overpay that Ainge never does.