Idea - Thomas for Irving

[Celtics978Fan]

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yazxtg6g

http://www.celticslife.com/2017/07/kyrie-irving-requests-trade-from-cavs.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook&m=1

Kyrie Irving wanting out, be the time to get ride of Thomas for a younger and better point guard.  We could trade Thomas, Crowder, Rozier and give them our 2018 and 2019 1st round picks.  Even if it cost us the Lakers pick I'd do the trade.  This gives the Cavs a star in return, a cheap player in Crowder and a backup guard in Rozier.  Then after doing this trade ask Rose if he wanted to be our backup point guard and come win a title.

What do you think of a trade like this for the Celtics?

[Jack_Frost]

He believes Earth is flat....

[Birdman]

Cleveland not trading with us to help us

[NHCelticsFan]

I would do it in a heartbeat, but a report came out that Kyrie has 4 preferred destinations: New York, San Antonio, Miami, and Minnesota.  Wouldn't surprise me if they try to get Melo to team him with LBJ.

https://mobile.twitter.com/ChrisBHaynes/status/888495312377073664

[CelticsElite]

Hayward and Horford both said they came to play with IT. Wonder how they would feel about it

[Rondo9]

Irving cares more about being the man rather than winning. Not saying this also applies to Thomas, but it is telling what Irving did today.

[Surferdad]

Way, WAY too much to give up.  Irving is not that much better than Thomas.

[perks-a-beast]

Way, WAY too much to give up.  Irving is not that much better than Thomas.

ummm yes he is

[saltlover]

Way, WAY too much to give up.  Irving is not that much better than Thomas.

It's very arguable that Irving isn't any better than Thomas.  In fact, I made that argument to a friend during lunch just yesterday.  Irving gives so little effort on defense that he's as bad on that end as IT.

[Celtics978Fan]

Way, WAY too much to give up.  Irving is not that much better than Thomas.

Almost 4 years younger, more productive career overall in the 6 years, can score just as well, better defender, not 5'9 with a hip injury. 

Signed for 2 years, gives us a better chance to win a title, gives an extra year with the young kids and not have to worry about paying Thomas 30 million. 

Who would you start a team with, Irving or Thomas?  It's pretty simple Irving.

[hodgy03038]

I would do it in a heartbeat, but a report came out that Kyrie has 4 preferred destinations: New York, San Antonio, Miami, and Minnesota.  Wouldn't surprise me if they try to get Melo to team him with LBJ.

https://mobile.twitter.com/ChrisBHaynes/status/888495312377073664

I doubt that they would trade with us but who really cares what his preferred destination is. If I am Cleveland ownership and there is not a no-trade clause then why would they care about his preferred destination. Make the best trade you can make for your organization and preferably because he is dumping you get your best deal that hurts him the most personally.

[tarheelsxxiii]

Way, WAY too much to give up.  Irving is not that much better than Thomas.

It's very arguable that Irving isn't any better than Thomas.  In fact, I made that argument to a friend during lunch just yesterday.  Irving gives so little effort on defense that he's as bad on that end as IT.

Thomas has also more consistent offensively. Not sure if that's a function of playing with LeBron vs being the clear #1 option, and Kyrie can explode on anything given night, but he has always struck me as being streaky. Very injury prone too.

[LGC88]

IT is better than Kyrie. Some people are blind.

[chilidawg]

"Having just a tremendously great player like that come to your team, and you see yourself being one of those great players eventually, and then he ends up joining it and then now you have to almost take a step back and observe," Irving said. "Finding that balance is one of the toughest things to do because you have so much belief and confidence in yourself. ... Selfishly, I always wanted to just show everyone in the whole entire world exactly who I was every single time."

I'm not sure he really fits with the Celtics.

Better player than IT, imo.

[greece66]

yay, this thread is everything I had hoped for!