Start Rozier next to Thomas?

[Th3M2n]

Doing this would give us the SMALLEST back court in all of basketball.  Combine that with our rebounding and rim protection issues and we'd be lucky to go .500...

[billysan]

Starters

Baynes
Horford
Hayward
Brown
IT

2nd unit

Morris
Crowder
Smart
Rozier

Tatum
Zizic

Subs will be singular, not hockey lines. There will be 2 or 3 starters on the floor most of the time, and definitely one of our big three. Tatum will see more playing time if he can score but must play defense first. Zizic will see  more time if he rebounds and doesn't foul out. Morris and Crowder  will battle for first off the bench with Smart as the 7th man.

Unless yabusele, theis or ojeleye really break out they don't see the floor till garbage time.

[jaketwice]

This is an idea I've been toying with for the past couple days.

It requires a pretty big leap from rozier, but it's possible.

Terry is a terrific athlete with pretty good length. He has the length and quickness to be an elite defender. IF and it's a big if, Rozier comes into camp with an improved jumper and an improved understanding of how to defend, could you stick him in the starting lineup and tell him his complete focus must be on defense?

Terry is a terrific rebounding guard too, so he'd help there.

The primary purpose of this is to find a way to put IT next to someone who can cover ballhandlers without pulling Marcus from the second unit.

I think I'd probably start Jaylen and maybe even Hayward at the 2 before Terry but it's something I haven't seen considered and I wonder if anyone else thinks it makes any sense to pursue.

Yes. Let's start a 6'2" combo guard over our recent $130M sg/sf. I laughed out loud at this.

[mef730]

Yeah, start Thomas, Rozier, Demetrius, Smart and Snow White as center.

You may mock, but Snow White would be a perfect center for us. She's used to being surrounded by undersized people.

Mike

[jambr380]

I think the idea behind this thread is probably to start the most similar player to Bradley that we have on the roster. While I have seen Rozier's ceiling as an Avery Bradley type with the ability to penetrate, I think we now have better options.

I personally like the idea of Brown getting the nod, but the IT/Hayward/Crowder/Morris/Horford line-up is probably the most likely. As SL mentioned, it is possible Stevens subs Baynes in for Morris to start, but only in a Bogut (with GSW) or Amir-like role.

[BostonClamCrowdah]

You've been thinking about this for days now?

Well, no, that's a bad idea

Hayward is gonna play the 2
Crowder is gonna play the 3


Brown, Rozier, and Tatum are going to come off the bench

People need to start getting real around here.

Who are you and what makes you so sure Crowders starting?

I'm someone who knows more about sports than you apparently

Crowder is a nice veteran piece who next to another scorer now in Hayward is a good starting 3.

Brown isn't ready. Tatum is sure as well not ready. Everyone else is too small. It's really the most obvious solution and I can't believe you think they'd move Crowder to the bench

[Th3M2n]

You've been thinking about this for days now?

Well, no, that's a bad idea

Hayward is gonna play the 2
Crowder is gonna play the 3


Brown, Rozier, and Tatum are going to come off the bench

People need to start getting real around here.

Who are you and what makes you so sure Crowders starting?

I'm someone who knows more about sports than you apparently

Crowder is a nice veteran piece who next to another scorer now in Hayward is a good starting 3.

Brown isn't ready. Tatum is sure as well not ready. Everyone else is too small. It's really the most obvious solution and I can't believe you think they'd move Crowder to the bench

Accept for the fact Crowder WILL be coming off the bench...

[Rosco917]

I'm hoping like crazy Hayward can play the 2, and be happy and successful there. Allowing Crowder to start at 3.

Or Smart start at the two, using his PG skills, defense, and size to help IT in the backcourt.

We don't need to get smaller by having Rozier start at the shooting guard position. Even if he could. 

[kmart12]

I'm hoping like crazy Hayward can play the 2, and be happy and successful there. Allowing Crowder to start at 3.

Or Smart start at the two, using his PG skills, defense, and size to help IT in the backcourt.

We don't need to get smaller by having Rozier start at the shooting guard position. Even if he could.

I'm with you. I would love to see Hayward play the 2 next to IT; I think they'd be a devastating backcourt if they could make it work. Hayward played a couple seasons almost exclusively at the 2 so it could happen.

I'm not so sure Rozier is anything more than a shoot-first PG who isn't particularly great at shooting or efficiently scoring. I get that he can hound a ball-handler and I get that he's very athletic, but he seems to get a lot of credit around here for his offense, which I think is easily the weakest part of his game.

Marcus Banks was able to get to the basket at will in the same capacity that Rozier can, but he never figured out how to score in an efficient manner or make plays for his teammates and he ultimately didn't work out. He also had great defensive ability, too. I'm holding out for Rozier, but I don't expect much from him soon.

[mahcus smaht]

This is an idea I've been toying with for the past couple days.

It requires a pretty big leap from rozier, but it's possible.

Terry is a terrific athlete with pretty good length. He has the length and quickness to be an elite defender. IF and it's a big if, Rozier comes into camp with an improved jumper and an improved understanding of how to defend, could you stick him in the starting lineup and tell him his complete focus must be on defense?

Terry is a terrific rebounding guard too, so he'd help there.

The primary purpose of this is to find a way to put IT next to someone who can cover ballhandlers without pulling Marcus from the second unit.

I think I'd probably start Jaylen and maybe even Hayward at the 2 before Terry but it's something I haven't seen considered and I wonder if anyone else thinks it makes any sense to pursue.

Yes. Let's start a 6'2" combo guard over our recent $130M sg/sf. I laughed out loud at this.

Hayward is obviously starting in any scenario.

[OldSchoolDude]

I'm thinking we'll start:

PG IT
SG Hayward
SF Morris
PF Horford
 C Baynes

I don't know how the bech will shape up.  We have two G leauge spots but still have to cut a player or make a trade. 

Smart/Rozier/Jackson
Brown/Allen/Bird
Crowder/Tatum/Semi/Nader
Zizic/Theis/Mickey

[mahcus smaht]

I think the idea behind this thread is probably to start the most similar player to Bradley that we have on the roster. While I have seen Rozier's ceiling as an Avery Bradley type with the ability to penetrate, I think we now have better options.

I personally like the idea of Brown getting the nod, but the IT/Hayward/Crowder/Morris/Horford line-up is probably the most likely. As SL mentioned, it is possible Stevens subs Baynes in for Morris to start, but only in a Bogut (with GSW) or Amir-like role.

Yeah you pretty much nailed my thought process.

The issue is really that IT sucks at defense so you want to put someone next to him who can help out on ballhandlers. Obviously Marcus is by far the best option there, but I don't think we can afford to leave the second unit in the hands of Terry Rozier.

So it comes down to Brown, Hayward and Terry at the 2.

I would go with Brown, but if we get to camp and Brad decides that Terry is ahead of Brown defensively, I could see Rozier picking up some surprise starts. I just don't like the idea of Hayward guarding 2s and I don't like the idea of leaving our second unit without anyone capable of running an offense.

Like I wrote in my OP, I'd probably put brown there first and I'd also rotate Hayward up to the 2 before I started Rozier and I'd even probably elelvate Marcus into the starting lineup too.

I just thought TRo could be an interesting AB replacement and might be able to do a nice job if you really stripped down the game for him and told him his first and second focus would he defense his 3rd and 4th would be attacking the glass.

An offense with Thomas Hayward Horford and either Morris or crowder doesn't need a ton of offense from the 2 guard spot.

[CELTICSofBOSTON]

Our starters are most likely:

Isaiah Thomas
Gordon Hayward
Jae Crowder
Marcus Morris
Al Horford

Substitutions:

1. Marcus Smart
   Aron Baynes

2. Jaylen Brown
3. Jayson Tatum
4. Terry Rozier

[tstorey_97]

Yeah, start Thomas, Rozier, Demetrius, Smart and Snow White as center.

You may mock, but Snow White would be a perfect center for us. She's used to being surrounded by undersized people.

Mike

Both you guys are crazy. When I worked for Disney Snow White played the two guard  on the company team. She had terrible handles and got into fairy dust ups with trainer Grumpy like every other practice. The Easter bunny ran circles around her and at least he could jump.

[tstorey_97]

Starters

Baynes
Horford
Hayward
Brown
IT

2nd unit

Morris
Crowder
Smart
Rozier

Tatum
Zizic

Subs will be singular, not hockey lines. There will be 2 or 3 starters on the floor most of the time, and definitely one of our big three. Tatum will see more playing time if he can score but must play defense first. Zizic will see  more time if he rebounds and doesn't foul out. Morris and Crowder  will battle for first off the bench with Smart as the 7th man.

Unless yabusele, theis or ojeleye really break out they don't see the floor till garbage time.

I agree with you on Crowder....issue?

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