He is growing up before our eyes

[Ogaju]

I am sure you remember when we got him out of College. So much promise but you never know what to expect from rookies. Young and understated we have watched him develop into one of the true gems in the Celtics rebuilding effort. He has played his part and developed every year. No longer a rookie or novice he is now regarded as one of the best in the NBA at his position. It is truly a pleasure to have him on the team. How do you guys rate his growth and development as a Celtic?

Remember he has won many games for us, even recruited free agents to join the Celtics after we had been told that Boston was not a FA destination, he has even in his short career been all-star. Of course I am referring to the Celtics very own Brad Stevens. So feel free to express your opinion in this thread in how he has done so far, and what you see going forward now that he has certainly earned his credibility in the league with players and officials alike.

[Casperian]

He's a system coach, and where I'm from, that's not a compliment, it's a subtle dig which means "not up for the big time".

The best coaches get the best talent and make it work, they don't compromise the talent for the system.

He's small time.

[Greenbean]

He's a system coach, and where I'm from, that's not a compliment, it's a subtle dig which means "not up for the big time".

The best coaches get the best talent and make it work, they don't compromise the talent for the system.

He's small time.

Care to expand on that? Assuming youre stuck on the the repirt that Stevens didnt want Cousins at the deadline? The report that cant even be confirmed?

Bill Bellichick, Greg Popovich...2 of the best system coaches around who built winning cultures by focusing on guys that love to compete and dont undermine the teams goals at any time.

Anyone can assemble an all star roster filled with A Holes. And MAYBE you turn that into one championship. Byt its proven in almost every sport if youre trying to build a championship team that cam compete for 10-20 years, which is clearly what Dannys goal is, then you need a coach who is consistent, and puts the teams success as overarching goal over everything else.

Brad is a pragmatist, and his players respect him, the best players in the league rave about him.

Brad Stevens being "small time" is such a lazy, outdated take. He has proven he can coach NBA players and the stars around the league WANT to play for HIM. Im glad hes selective.

[trickybilly]

He's a system coach, and where I'm from, that's not a compliment, it's a subtle dig which means "not up for the big time".

The best coaches get the best talent and make it work, they don't compromise the talent for the system.

He's small time.

LOL. Man, maybe we should consider Phil Jackson.. 

[Casperian]

He's a system coach, and where I'm from, that's not a compliment, it's a subtle dig which means "not up for the big time".

The best coaches get the best talent and make it work, they don't compromise the talent for the system.

He's small time.

Care to expand on that? Assuming youre stuck on the the repirt that Stevens didnt want Cousins at the deadline? The report that cant even be confirmed?

Bill Bellichick, Greg Popovich...2 of the best system coaches around who built winning cultures by focusing on guys that love to compete and dont undermine the teams goals at any time.

Anyone can assemble an all star roster filled with A Holes. And MAYBE you turn that into one championship. Byt its proven in almost every sport if youre trying to build a championship team that cam compete for 10-20 years, which is clearly what Dannys goal is, then you need a coach who is consistent, and puts the teams success as overarching goal over everything else.

Brad is a pragmatist, and his players respect him, the best players in the league rave about him.

Brad Stevens being "small time" is such a lazy, outdated take. He has proven he can coach NBA players and the stars around the league WANT to play for HIM. Im glad hes selective.

Comparing American Football and Basketball is like comparing apples and oranges, and Pop is most certainly not a system coach, unless you think Duncan, Ginobili, Parker or Leonard are system guys. In fact, Pop changes his system basically every season.

A much better comparison is soccer, and in soccer, I've seen that approach hundreds of times already, and it never ever works. Even Pep Guardiola, who is held up as the prime example of a succesful system coach, is on record saying that he doesn't think he's a system coach, and that talent wins.

Now, granted, it's still an unfair comparison, given that it's a cross-sports reference and all, but then again, how many times has this approach worked in the NBA before?

MJ was an ****, so was Kobe. Bird, Magic, Shaq, Garnett, all ****s. Ask people on this forum about Lebron or DWade, they will tell you they're ****s.

Who cares? This is not a freaking kindergarten, it's the NBA, and the best talent wins championships.

[Celtics4ever]

He's a system coach, and where I'm from, that's not a compliment, it's a subtle dig which means "not up for the big time".

The best coaches get the best talent and make it work, they don't compromise the talent for the system.

He's small time.

How silly of me, I did not know Germany is the Bread Basket of great coaches.

His taking Butler to the NCAA finals was downright amazing.   He has won here with a hodge podge of talent.   Ainge is the guy who gets the players, not CBS.   

I think your being a little harsh on CBS.  He is winning games so to some extent it is working.   

MJ was an ****, so was Kobe. Chamberlain, Bird, Magic, Shaq, Garnett, all ****s. Ask people on this forum about Lebron or DWade, they will tell you they're ****s. 

All coaches have a system and preference for certain types of guys.   Be it a skillset or a mindset.   Red likes guys who could run.   Jordan who you use as an example  played in a system called the Triangle Offense.   He won six titles.  Kobe and Shaq played within the Triangle system for a lot of their careers.   Bird Celtics were still using plays designed by Red.   Trust me, all these coaches had systems and principles and look for guys who fit them.   You just may be aware of this fact or grasp the nuances.

The good coaches get players to play above their talent level and the bad ones are only as good as their players.   CBS is the former, whereas many coaches are the latter.   He is not perfect, no one is Casp.

[Surferdad]

I like Stevens and I think he has grown in his NBA career.  You can't expect a college coach to get it right out of the box.  I can clearly recall some awful rotations and not being sure when to pull guys out based on what the other team was putting out there.  Some of this was due to the roster.  I think he has improved and I look forward to further improvement this season, now that he has a better roster.

I don't get the criticism that he is a "system" coach.

[Sophomore]

He's a system coach, and where I'm from, that's not a compliment, it's a subtle dig which means "not up for the big time".

The best coaches get the best talent and make it work, they don't compromise the talent for the system.

He's small time.

Care to expand on that? Assuming youre stuck on the the repirt that Stevens didnt want Cousins at the deadline? The report that cant even be confirmed?

Bill Bellichick, Greg Popovich...2 of the best system coaches around who built winning cultures by focusing on guys that love to compete and dont undermine the teams goals at any time.

Anyone can assemble an all star roster filled with A Holes. And MAYBE you turn that into one championship. Byt its proven in almost every sport if youre trying to build a championship team that cam compete for 10-20 years, which is clearly what Dannys goal is, then you need a coach who is consistent, and puts the teams success as overarching goal over everything else.

Brad is a pragmatist, and his players respect him, the best players in the league rave about him.

Brad Stevens being "small time" is such a lazy, outdated take. He has proven he can coach NBA players and the stars around the league WANT to play for HIM. Im glad hes selective.

Comparing American Football and Basketball is like comparing apples and oranges, and Pop is most certainly not a system coach, unless you think Duncan, Ginobili, Parker or Leonard are system guys. In fact, Pop changes his system basically every season.

A much better comparison is soccer, and in soccer, I've seen that approach hundreds of times already, and it never ever works. Even Pep Guardiola, who is held up as the prime example of a succesful system coach, is on record saying that he doesn't think he's a system coach, and that talent wins.

Now, granted, it's still an unfair comparison, given that it's a cross-sports reference and all, but then again, how many times has this approach worked in the NBA before?

MJ was an ****, so was Kobe. Bird, Magic, Shaq, Garnett, all ****s. Ask people on this forum about Lebron or DWade, they will tell you they're ****s.

Who cares? This is not a freaking kindergarten, it's the NBA, and the best talent wins championships.

I don't get the criticism. It is not the coach's fault if the team did not draft Michael Jordan or Larry Bird. I'm pretty sure if Brad had that caliber of player he would win. And as far as his being a system coach, there are a lot of Players who have come through Boston to have career years. The one thing almost everyone seems to say about Stevens is that he does not try to make players do what he wants them to do, he figures out what they can do and puts them in a position to do it. If you can get the number one seed, even in a diluted conference, with players that other teams cast off almost for nothing, you're doing a pretty good job as a coach.

[spikelovetheCelts]

He's a system coach, and where I'm from, that's not a compliment, it's a subtle dig which means "not up for the big time".

The best coaches get the best talent and make it work, they don't compromise the talent for the system.

He's small time.

Brad is a great coach. When he calls a timeoout we score. He has many awesome plays. Lebron even has said great things about him as well as others. We have had great d and never a shot blocker. Casperian what more do you wants, than him?

Care to expand on that? Assuming youre stuck on the the repirt that Stevens didnt want Cousins at the deadline? The report that cant even be confirmed?

Bill Bellichick, Greg Popovich...2 of the best system coaches around who built winning cultures by focusing on guys that love to compete and dont undermine the teams goals at any time.

Anyone can assemble an all star roster filled with A Holes. And MAYBE you turn that into one championship. Byt its proven in almost every sport if youre trying to build a championship team that cam compete for 10-20 years, which is clearly what Dannys goal is, then you need a coach who is consistent, and puts the teams success as overarching goal over everything else.

Brad is a pragmatist, and his players respect him, the best players in the league rave about him.

Brad Stevens being "small time" is such a lazy, outdated take. He has proven he can coach NBA players and the stars around the league WANT to play for HIM. Im glad hes selective.

Comparing American Football and Basketball is like comparing apples and oranges, and Pop is most certainly not a system coach, unless you think Duncan, Ginobili, Parker or Leonard are system guys. In fact, Pop changes his system basically every season.

A much better comparison is soccer, and in soccer, I've seen that approach hundreds of times already, and it never ever works. Even Pep Guardiola, who is held up as the prime example of a succesful system coach, is on record saying that he doesn't think he's a system coach, and that talent wins.

Now, granted, it's still an unfair comparison, given that it's a cross-sports reference and all, but then again, how many times has this approach worked in the NBA before?

MJ was an ****, so was Kobe. Bird, Magic, Shaq, Garnett, all ****s. Ask people on this forum about Lebron or DWade, they will tell you they're ****s.

Who cares? This is not a freaking kindergarten, it's the NBA, and the best talent wins championships.

[DarkAzcura]

He's a system coach, and where I'm from, that's not a compliment, it's a subtle dig which means "not up for the big time".

The best coaches get the best talent and make it work, they don't compromise the talent for the system.

He's small time.

You are joking right? One of Stevens' strengths as a coach is that he doesn't pigeon hole players into roles because of his system. He adjusts his system to fit the strengths of his players. That's what almost every player who has come through here has loved him for. This idea that Brad has a system and every player needs to fit it to a T is such an odd criticism. The only pre-requisite to playing for Stevens is that he wants you to be skilled at basketball. If you are a big dude who can only rebound and nothing else, you will be SOL here. I don't think it's a bad thing to want your players to be skilled.

Also, even if he were a system coach, you do realize one of the greatest coaches ever in Phil Jackson was probably the biggest system coach ever. If you couldn't play the triangle, you were kicked off the team.

[gouki88]

He's a system coach, and where I'm from, that's not a compliment, it's a subtle dig which means "not up for the big time".

The best coaches get the best talent and make it work, they don't compromise the talent for the system.

He's small time.

Hilarious!

[Ogaju]

when I made this post the last thing I expected was Brad to be pilloried as a system coach.

[SparzWizard]

Back when he got swept coaching in his first NBA playoff career, and then holding on to a 2-10 record in the playoffs...

How times have quickly changed.

[wayupnorth]

He's a system coach, and where I'm from, that's not a compliment, it's a subtle dig which means "not up for the big time".

The best coaches get the best talent and make it work, they don't compromise the talent for the system.

He's small time.

 

LOL this post has to be a joke. I really cannot even believe someone could believe this.

He is, without question, a top five coach, and still very young.

"small time"...

[jambr380]

Weird stuff from Caperian, but we can't let that get us down. Perhaps he would prefer someone like Ty Lue since he is apparently big time.

Anyway, what's not to love about Stevens? Fans, players, analysts all seem to acknowledge his brilliance. I like the roster we have and think we can really compete, but that GS team makes it so much more difficult to feel good about any of the next few seasons.