The Nets are IMPROVING!!

[Nef-Oracle]

In case you've been focused on free agency, the draft and summer league like most of us you probably didn't pay attention to what everyone else is doing.  Well turns out that the Nets have been slowly improving as of late. They traded for DeAngelo Russell and just got Demarre Carroll and two picks from Toronto. While these aren't big moves they still can sign any of the remaining FA to $20+ mill/year,  think KCP and will definitely affect where our first round pick land next year.

[Somebody]

Other teams are improving at a similar or even better rate, so I'm still expecting a top 5 pick from brooklyn. Also we don't really need it to be 1, we just need it and the lakers pick to be in the top 5 (ofc the lakers pick cannot be 1) since the draft is super top heavy with like 5 guys.

[hpantazo]

It was more for getting picks to eat Demare's contract. It also takes away their ability to sign Caldwell-Pope. I don't see it hurting our Nets pick this year. Its a good long term move for the Nets though to re-stock their picks for their rebuild.

[hodgy03038]

DeMarre Carroll is certainly not improving the Nets. He is flat out terrible.

[BitterJim]

There's a reason that the Raptors had to include a first and second in order to get rid of Carroll's contract. He just isn't the player he used to be in Atlanta, his knees can't take that any more. Honestly, the most impactful part of this deal is the $15 million it takes out of Brooklyn's cap space this year (and next, but we don't need to worry about that)

This was a great move for Brooklyn, but that's because of the 1st rounder they got, not Carroll

[hodgy03038]

There's a reason that the Raptors had to include a first and second in order to get rid of Carroll's contract. He just isn't the player he used to be in Atlanta, his knees can't take that any more. Honestly, the most impactful part of this deal is the $15 million it takes out of Brooklyn's cap space this year (and next, but we don't need to worry about that)

This was a great move for Brooklyn, but that's because of the 1st rounder they got, not Carroll

Very true. It does seem like Brooklyn now has a vision of the future unlike their city counterparts.

[Smitty77]

In case you've been focused on free agency, the draft and summer league like most of us you probably didn't pay attention to what everyone else is doing.  Well turns out that the Nets have been slowly improving as of late. They traded for DeAngelo Russell and just got Demarre Carroll and two picks from Toronto. While these aren't big moves they still can sign any of the remaining FA to $20+ mill/year,  think KCP and will definitely affect where our first round pick land next year.

You seriously are saying that getting Carroll is and improvement??:-))))))  He shot 40% from the floor last year and that was an improvement by 1.1% from the year before.  He is HORRIBLE!!! He averaged a measly 3.8 rebounds in OVER 26 minutes per game last year!!!  He shot his lowest percentage from three in the last four years THIS year!!!

He might be one of the MOST OVERPAID players in the league!!!

BTW, the center, Justin Hamilton, that the Nets traded to the Raptors in this deal, has a HIGHER PER than Carroll by OVER 1 point!!!

Smitty77

[ManUp]

When your at the bottom there's no where else to go, but up.

[Eja117]

We are lucky the Wizards are taking all the time they possibly can on matching Otto Porter to teach the Nets a lesson about going after their guy. I wish the Nets had gone after other guys too like Noel. I'm not overly happy about the Mavs getting a great deal on that guy.

It looks like their pursuit of KCP may be over.

[BitterJim]

There's a reason that the Raptors had to include a first and second in order to get rid of Carroll's contract. He just isn't the player he used to be in Atlanta, his knees can't take that any more. Honestly, the most impactful part of this deal is the $15 million it takes out of Brooklyn's cap space this year (and next, but we don't need to worry about that)

This was a great move for Brooklyn, but that's because of the 1st rounder they got, not Carroll

Very true. It does seem like Brooklyn now has a vision of the future unlike their city counterparts.

Marks has proved to be a very good GM for Brooklyn. Once he finally gets free of the Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline. situation King put the franchise in, he should be able to make some great steps. I'll be rooting for him (after the 2018 season, of course)

[Eddie20]

They also lost Lopez. So without an interior defender, and possibly the worst defensive backcourt of the last decade (Lin and Russell), they're going to give up an unprecedented amount of points. Especially if they play fast, which seems to be their plan.

[Surferdad]

Atlanta didn't match on Hardaway Jr.  They could be worse than the Nets.

Also we don't really need it to be 1, we just need it and the lakers pick to be in the top 5 (ofc the lakers pick cannot be 1) since the draft is super top heavy with like 5 guys.

Right but the odds go down.  We want the best odds possible of the getting the ideal scenario which is the #1 (BKN pick) and the #2 (LAL pick).

[Somebody]

They also lost Lopez. So without an interior defender, and possibly the worst defensive backcourt of the last decade (Lin and Russell), they're going to give up an unprecedented amount of points. Especially if they play fast, which seems to be their plan.

Lin should be leaving tbh, he can't play with DLO, also he wants to be a starter on the Nets, which would make them even worse

[Fan from VT]

When your at the bottom there's no where else to go, but up.

Yup. They really could only get marginally better.

I actually like a little of what they are doing, but I don't think it's going to help them much next year. Mostly, repeating the #1 pick would just be unlikely due to odds of ping pong balls. But I'm hoping for a top 4 pick again.

Losing Lopez is huge for them; he was actually healthy last year and by far their best player.

Getting Russell is a nice move for the future, so I think it was worth it from their perspective in the long term, but might be a net negative this coming year.

Same for acquiring picks; it's what they have to do to improve long term, but won't help them this year.

Getting KCP would be pretty neutral in my opinion. He's a career .405/.334/.785 shooter. Max PER of 12.8. He is 24 so he's got room to grow, but I don't think he'll ever be as valuable as, say, Avery Bradley. KCP could be a nice 5th guy on a good team, but that is not the role the Nets need in order to improve significantly.

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