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Re: So Jaylen looks terrible
« Reply #75 on: July 09, 2017, 06:34:45 AM »

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He'll be fine. Summer league is awful for guys who need spacing. He's desperately trying to prove he's better than everyone out there and he's overthinking things.

Once he gets to training camp and realizes that we moved Bradley so he couls get more minutes he'll calm down.

Just wants to prove he's great. He's a baby yet.

Agree, but he made some bad decisions.  I think your last line sums it up nicely.

Re: So Jaylen looks terrible
« Reply #76 on: July 09, 2017, 07:14:01 AM »

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He still lacks offensive maturity and an understanding of pacing. He only has two speeds... standing still and I'm gonna crash.

Still feel he's doing too much with the ball and his handles are erratic... gets clumsy at the point of engagement and is unable to smoothly pass people.

I still have hope but I think he's trying to be PG or KD, both with amazing handles rather than a LeBron that simply gets to his spot with a set up move and a decision.

Re: So Jaylen looks terrible
« Reply #77 on: July 09, 2017, 07:16:29 AM »

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He still lacks offensive maturity and an understanding of pacing. He only has two speeds... standing still and I'm gonna crash.

Still feel he's doing too much with the ball and his handles are erratic... gets clumsy at the point of engagement and is unable to smoothly pass people.

I still have hope but I think he's trying to be PG or KD, both with amazing handles rather than a LeBron that simply gets to his spot with a set up move and a decision.
Exactly, he should watch some tape of guys like LeBron and Dominique.
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Re: So Jaylen looks terrible
« Reply #78 on: July 09, 2017, 07:44:58 AM »

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He looked bad last night. Having no guards to brig up the ball and get the offense going didn't help. The entire team looked slow and didn't pass the ball. Shocked they won because at times they looked flat out horrible other than Tatum in the second half.

Re: So Jaylen looks terrible
« Reply #79 on: July 09, 2017, 07:55:54 AM »

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Relax. It's summer league. They're pushing his comfort zone. There's no way he will ever be ready to be a playmaker if they don't push his comfort level in game like situations. He's not ready yet but I do think he's better than last season. He has several NBA qualities and will get plenty of burn this season. No reason to worry.
I only read page 1.  I hope there are more sensible posts like this one. Summer League means very close to nothing.  Clearly it's an experimentation for JB.  He's still a kid and he's on a stage where he can toy with things. They worked in game 1 and not in games 2 and 3.  I think he'll be fine. Needs as much run as possible.  I just hope Tatum's success has no impact on Jaylen - other than inspiration.
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Re: So Jaylen looks terrible
« Reply #80 on: July 09, 2017, 08:03:38 AM »

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Relax. It's summer league. They're pushing his comfort zone. There's no way he will ever be ready to be a playmaker if they don't push his comfort level in game like situations. He's not ready yet but I do think he's better than last season. He has several NBA qualities and will get plenty of burn this season. No reason to worry.
I only read page 1.  I hope there are more sensible posts like this one. Summer League means very close to nothing.  Clearly it's an experimentation for JB.  He's still a kid and he's on a stage where he can toy with things. They worked in game 1 and not in games 2 and 3.  I think he'll be fine. Needs as much run as possible.  I just hope Tatum's success has no impact on Jaylen - other than inspiration.


Jaylen Brown works extremely hard, and he wants to be the best. I have no doubt that he will improve on whatever is being asked of him. It is a great thing that he is willing to challenge himself before being challenged by the staff.

Re: So Jaylen looks terrible
« Reply #81 on: July 09, 2017, 08:19:56 AM »

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It's not so much his ball handling skills that are bad.  It's actually pretty good.  It's how he uses his handle and moves that seem contrived.  He doesn't have that instinctual ability to take advantage when his man off balance and out of position.  Every move seems to be predetermined.

When u look at Fultz play, his moves are efficient and have purpose.  His control and pace are what make him special.  Jaylen is a long way from having that "feel"!

Re: So Jaylen looks terrible
« Reply #82 on: July 09, 2017, 08:21:57 AM »

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Relax. It's summer league. They're pushing his comfort zone. There's no way he will ever be ready to be a playmaker if they don't push his comfort level in game like situations. He's not ready yet but I do think he's better than last season. He has several NBA qualities and will get plenty of burn this season. No reason to worry.
I only read page 1.  I hope there are more sensible posts like this one. Summer League means very close to nothing.  Clearly it's an experimentation for JB.  He's still a kid and he's on a stage where he can toy with things. They worked in game 1 and not in games 2 and 3.  I think he'll be fine. Needs as much run as possible.  I just hope Tatum's success has no impact on Jaylen - other than inspiration.


Jaylen Brown works extremely hard, and he wants to be the best. I have no doubt that he will improve on whatever is being asked of him. It is a great thing that he is willing to challenge himself before being challenged by the staff.
He basically told them (didn't ask) he was playing in SL.  He wants to be better.  He works extremely hard.  I project he will improve every year just like Avery Bradley, except Jaylen is the better athlete, is taller and is more skilled than Avery was at this stage of their careers.  Remember how awful Avery looked shooting early on?  He used to take long two's, couldn't play PG a lick (still can't I guess).

Tatum has bigger upside, but Jaylen will be a fine pro.

Re: So Jaylen looks terrible
« Reply #83 on: July 09, 2017, 08:54:18 AM »

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Jaylen better playing with good players

I agree triboy!!  The reason Jaylen is BETTER playing with good players is that he really does NOT have a good handle to get his own shot.  We have been asking him to bring the ball up at times and start the offense (being generous in calling it that with he and others running it), which he simply can NOT and SHOULD NOT be doing.  He simply does NOT have the handle to do this!!  I know that summer league is about working on things, so I do get that.  We finally starting playing like a team on offense when Jackson (who I really do NOT like) starting running our offense.  He is really the REASON we won vs. the Lakers!!

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Re: So Jaylen looks terrible
« Reply #84 on: July 09, 2017, 09:03:54 AM »

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What a surprise, a knee jerk thread about Jaylen Brown after a summer league game in which they were trying new things with him being a ball handler. No, he's not ready for that, but why should we expect him to when he's never been that?

There is a reason why he looked so good the first game, because they had him playing his style. The guy has proven himself at the NBA lineup starting for Avery when he was injured, so lets cool the breaks on Jaylen being 'terrible.'

Its like when a pitcher is working on mechanics in spring training or working on a new pitch and then gets shelled. Jaylen is working on a part of his game he isn't comfortable with.

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« Reply #85 on: July 09, 2017, 09:12:46 AM »

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What a surprise, a knee jerk thread about Jaylen Brown after a summer league game in which they were trying new things with him being a ball handler. No, he's not ready for that, but why should we expect him to when he's never been that?

There is a reason why he looked so good the first game, because they had him playing his style. The guy has proven himself at the NBA lineup starting for Avery when he was injured, so lets cool the breaks on Jaylen being 'terrible.'

Its like when a pitcher is working on mechanics in spring training or working on a new pitch and then gets shelled. Jaylen is working on a part of his game he isn't comfortable with.

And working on parts of his game he isn't good at/comfortable with is exactly what he should be doing. This is summer league, not the regular season. Playing to your strengths isn't gonna teach you anything, playing to your weaknesses will
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Re: So Jaylen looks terrible
« Reply #86 on: July 09, 2017, 09:27:46 AM »

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It's not so much his ball handling skills that are bad.  It's actually pretty good.  It's how he uses his handle and moves that seem contrived.  He doesn't have that instinctual ability to take advantage when his man off balance and out of position.  Every move seems to be predetermined.

When u look at Fultz play, his moves are efficient and have purpose.  His control and pace are what make him special.  Jaylen is a long way from having that "feel"!

EXACTLY!

I was just going to say the same thing. The problem isn't his ball handling, that's actually pretty good although he definitely still needs to tighten up, it's his feel and decision making. He's not losing the ball from poor handling as much as he's making bone headed plays and being unaware of the defense. Things like getting fancy with his ball handling and putting his foot in the back court, dribbling up the court and someone he doesn't see/feel poking the ball away from behind, dribbling into traffic and getting caught trying to pass out. These are all decision making and awareness issues. All it really means right now is he isn't a guy who should be dominating the ball through out a game and he should be playing with a point guard. Jaylen is a long ways away from being  the play maker he's trying to be.

Chill out everyone this is what he went to summer league to work on.

Re: So Jaylen looks terrible
« Reply #87 on: July 09, 2017, 11:49:02 AM »

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I love how people are ignoring his poor shooting, poor defense, poor free throw shooting, his poor feel for the game and his low BBIQ from the past two games.

Re: So Jaylen looks terrible
« Reply #88 on: July 09, 2017, 12:04:14 PM »

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I love how people are ignoring his poor shooting, poor defense, poor free throw shooting, his poor feel for the game and his low BBIQ from the past two games.

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Re: So Jaylen looks terrible
« Reply #89 on: July 09, 2017, 12:05:13 PM »

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hahaha!

When Jaylen was being Jaylen, he put up 29 and 13.  The last two games they've been asking him to be a playmaker and facilitator, which isn't necessarily his game.  Yes, he's been sloppy, because he's intentionally looking ahead for the play, which is not his game.  There isn't and hasn't ever been a scouting report that has ever said that he's playmaker for others, nor an exceptional passer. He's trying things he's not good at, because they are asking him to.

this thread is classic celticsblog overreacting.  He's gonna be just fine.  When they stop asking him to play point forward, he'll light the game up and everyone will be singing his praises again.