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Bringing some levity and common sense to this trade
« on: July 07, 2017, 01:53:17 PM »

Offline KGBirdBias

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Ok I've had some time to think about this deal. I feel bad for AB because he deserves to be on a good team. He'll get his money next year.

Would you trade AB and KO for Hayward and Morris? That's really the deal. I would all day every day. We got bigger, tougher and more versatile.

Stevens now has guys who can play multiple position all over the place. AB could only play SG...he was the odd man out.

Positions
IT - 1, 2
Hayward - 2, 3
Smart - 1, 2, 3 (...and the 4 and 5) LOL
Crowder - 3, 4
Tatum - 2, 3, 4
Brown - 2, 3
Rozier - 1, 2
Horford - 4, 5
Morris - 3, 4

So if this pattern continues, I would look for Ainge to sign guys that can play multiple position.

I would go for Pau Gasol with the $4.3M exception


Re: Bringing some levity and common sense to this trade
« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2017, 01:56:57 PM »

Offline Hank Finkel

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Ok I've had some time to think about this deal. I feel bad for AB because he deserves to be on a good team. He'll get his money next year.

Would you trade AB and KO for Hayward and Morris? That's really the deal. I would all day every day. We got bigger, tougher and more versatile.

Stevens now has guys who can play multiple position all over the place. AB could only play SG...he was the odd man out.

Positions
IT - 1, 2
Hayward - 2, 3
Smart - 1, 2, 3 (...and the 4 and 5) LOL
Crowder - 3, 4
Tatum - 2, 3, 4
Brown - 2, 3
Rozier - 1, 2
Horford - 4, 5
Morris - 3, 4

So if this pattern continues, I would look for Ainge to sign guys that can play multiple position.

I would go for Pau Gasol with the $4.3M exception

I would go for Pau too but i read somewhere that he played for 3 times that last year.  If that's the case we will be hard pressed to sign him.

Re: Bringing some levity and common sense to this trade
« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2017, 01:57:44 PM »

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Your common sense and a lack of doomsday pessimism will ensure that this thread will be severely mocked. 

Re: Bringing some levity and common sense to this trade
« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2017, 02:03:37 PM »

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I would go for Pau Gasol with the $4.3M exception

Das it! I love it

Re: Bringing some levity and common sense to this trade
« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2017, 02:15:08 PM »

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I would go for Pau Gasol with the $4.3M exception

Das it! I love it
Sure. Just don't hold your hopes too high that he'll take a 70% pay cut to come play here :)
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Re: Bringing some levity and common sense to this trade
« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2017, 02:16:23 PM »

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I would go for Pau Gasol with the $4.3M exception

Das it! I love it

I'd shoot for Dwayne Dedmon myself. We need a solid garbageman-type role player up front more than a fading star.

Re: Bringing some levity and common sense to this trade
« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2017, 02:21:37 PM »

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I would go for Pau Gasol with the $4.3M exception

Das it! I love it
Sure. Just don't hold your hopes too high that he'll take a 70% pay cut to come play here :)

I guess my thinking is. Gasol is older and will want to play for a contender. Who's a contender that has that much money...most are over the cap. He could go to Memphis and play with his brother...but it's the West.

Re: Bringing some levity and common sense to this trade
« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2017, 02:28:10 PM »

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I missed the levity? :o

Re: Bringing some levity and common sense to this trade
« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2017, 02:29:45 PM »

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I will nit pick the Jae Crowder is a 3/4.  Jae (according to draft measurements) is 6'-4" without shoes and 6'-6" with shoes.  Gordon Hayward is 6'-6"+ without shoes and 6'-8" with shoes.  Neither should be playing PF except under some rarely used change of pace desperation type of line up.  (for reference Marcus Smart is listed as 6'-2" without shoes).

I would rather see Crowder slim down some and have him cover SGs while Hayward covers SF than have him play any meaningful time at PF.

Re: Bringing some levity and common sense to this trade
« Reply #9 on: July 07, 2017, 02:32:07 PM »

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Hey,  Morris is a huge Pierce fan.   He won't mind being a Celtic.   That's good news.

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« Reply #10 on: July 07, 2017, 02:32:21 PM »

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I would go for Pau Gasol with the $4.3M exception

Das it! I love it

I'd shoot for Dwayne Dedmon myself. We need a solid garbageman-type role player up front more than a fading star.

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Re: Bringing some levity and common sense to this trade
« Reply #11 on: July 07, 2017, 02:50:31 PM »

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I missed the levity? :o

The levity is we had to make a move when the cap went down to $99M. They could've asked Hayward to take less but he already did...$48M less.

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« Reply #12 on: July 07, 2017, 03:15:22 PM »

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You also seem to be missing Zizic, Yabu and Theis.

Re: Bringing some levity and common sense to this trade
« Reply #13 on: July 07, 2017, 03:17:09 PM »

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You also seem to be missing Zizic, Yabu and Theis.
I don't think G League players are relevant to the main team's rotation.
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Re: Bringing some levity and common sense to this trade
« Reply #14 on: July 07, 2017, 03:21:35 PM »

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ESPN gave us a B+ and DET a D: AB had to go because of the cap vs DET got a one-year rental and lost MM and KCP.

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From a purely rational standpoint, there was an overwhelming case that Bradley was the best option. Crowder has one of the league's best contracts, one that pays him an average of $7.3 million over the next three seasons. And while Smart is also in the final year of his deal, he'll be a restricted free agent next summer, allowing Boston to control the process and potentially keep down his salary. (At 23, he's also more than three years younger than Bradley.)

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In the worst-case scenario, the Celtics would have lost two of their core players (one by trade, Bradley by free agency). The best-case option had them paying Bradley more than $20 million a year, a move that in conjunction with re-signing All-Star point guard Isaiah Thomas would have pushed them deep into the luxury tax for the foreseeable future.

Also, helps the position balance and MM is a serviceable rotation player. I hate losing AB because he could give top guards fits when healthy (he did vs Butler but wasn't healthy vs Kyrie in the playoffs).