Just like i said........ the loss of Bradley undermines the

[jade88]

Hayward signing! We great downgraded our 2 guard position in order to get a mediocre PF. I would rather have seen Avery walk than do this a few days after landing a player like Hayward.

I'm probably the most committed IT4 guy in here, but Bradley being a defensive stalwart was a prerequisite next to him. Bradley was one of our best shooters, our best on ball defender, and last year was one of our best rebounders. Hayward will make up some of this things, but not all of them, and i'm a lot less impressed that they won't be playing together.

+Hayward - Bradley just doesn't impress me. It's an upgrade but both after moving Smart would have made for a better ball club. I'm now left rooting for a Jamal Crawford signing to get some shooting back, no way Jaylen can be a starting 2 guard next year.

[Granath]

Hayward signing! We great downgraded our 2 guard position in order to get a mediocre PF. I would rather have seen Avery walk than do this a few days after landing a player like Hayward.

I'm probably the most committed IT4 guy in here, but Bradley being a defensive stalwart was a prerequisite next to him. Bradley was one of our best shooters, our best on ball defender, and last year was one of our best rebounders. Hayward will make up some of this things, but not all of them, and i'm a lot less impressed that they won't be playing together.

+Hayward - Bradley just doesn't impress me. It's an upgrade but both after moving Smart would have made for a better ball club. I'm now left rooting for a Jamal Crawford signing to get some shooting back, no way Jaylen can be a starting 2 guard next year.

I'm convinced. You used such overwhelming evidence in your post that your point is certainly irrefutable.

[jade88]

Hayward signing! We great downgraded our 2 guard position in order to get a mediocre PF. I would rather have seen Avery walk than do this a few days after landing a player like Hayward.

I'm probably the most committed IT4 guy in here, but Bradley being a defensive stalwart was a prerequisite next to him. Bradley was one of our best shooters, our best on ball defender, and last year was one of our best rebounders. Hayward will make up some of this things, but not all of them, and i'm a lot less impressed that they won't be playing together.

+Hayward - Bradley just doesn't impress me. It's an upgrade but both after moving Smart would have made for a better ball club. I'm now left rooting for a Jamal Crawford signing to get some shooting back, no way Jaylen can be a starting 2 guard next year.

I'm convinced. You used such overwhelming evidence in your post that your point is certainly irrefutable.

I did mention how many categories Bradley was not only effective in, but led us throughout the year.  I could and really should have mentioned the intangibles, but i didn't. I think production is enough.

[droopdog7]

Hayward is a much better player than Avery.  Hate to tell you that.  And, Hayward can play SG, with Crowder at the 3.  So upgrade all around.

[kozlodoev]

What Bradley did defensively can be replicated by Smart and Brown. I just wish we added a real big who is not a headcase instead.

[Boston Garden Leprechaun]

OMG NOT THIS CRAP AGAIN!

[Roy H.]

The team is quite a bit better. Individual players don't matter as much.

Hayward + Morris >> AB + KO

[jade88]

Hayward is a much better player than Avery.  Hate to tell you that.  And, Hayward can play SG, with Crowder at the 3.  So upgrade all around.

I acknowledged that Hayward is better, much better because he can create his own shot and is pretty much better in every regard. All i'm saying is that having Hayward in addition to Bradley would have been more of a win now move, than dropping our best 2 guard after signing him.

I'm also not convinced Hayward can play the 2.

[playdream]

He does not fit in our system of versatility, and injury prone, and can't really stop ellite offensive guard
Let him take his paycheck on another team and wish him goodluck is what you should do

[jbp126]

Hayward signing! We great downgraded our 2 guard position in order to get a mediocre PF. I would rather have seen Avery walk than do this a few days after landing a player like Hayward.

I'm probably the most committed IT4 guy in here, but Bradley being a defensive stalwart was a prerequisite next to him. Bradley was one of our best shooters, our best on ball defender, and last year was one of our best rebounders. Hayward will make up some of this things, but not all of them, and i'm a lot less impressed that they won't be playing together.

+Hayward - Bradley just doesn't impress me. It's an upgrade but both after moving Smart would have made for a better ball club. I'm now left rooting for a Jamal Crawford signing to get some shooting back, no way Jaylen can be a starting 2 guard next year.

He started 14 games for us at the 2 last year.

[hpantazo]

Bottom line is, Avery was going to walk next summer regardless of the Hayward signing. Avery is going to finally get paid, and a Ainge was never going to be the one to give AB a max contract.

[PaulAllen]

Hayward signing! We great downgraded our 2 guard position in order to get a mediocre PF. I would rather have seen Avery walk than do this a few days after landing a player like Hayward.

I'm probably the most committed IT4 guy in here, but Bradley being a defensive stalwart was a prerequisite next to him. Bradley was one of our best shooters, our best on ball defender, and last year was one of our best rebounders. Hayward will make up some of this things, but not all of them, and i'm a lot less impressed that they won't be playing together.

+Hayward - Bradley just doesn't impress me. It's an upgrade but both after moving Smart would have made for a better ball club. I'm now left rooting for a Jamal Crawford signing to get some shooting back, no way Jaylen can be a starting 2 guard next year.

This is why you are NOT the GM of the Celtics..

[jade88]

He does not fit in our system of versatility, and injury prone, and can't really stop ellite offensive guard
Let him take his paycheck on another team and wish him goodluck is what you should do

Are you serious? Bradley was our best defensive player on point guards......

[blink]

The team is quite a bit better. Individual players don't matter as much.

Hayward + Morris >> AB + KO

But that just lumps KO (who we weren't going to resign) into the bad AB for Morris deal.
You could also add more letters behind the KO (GG + AJ + JY + JJ) and it doesn't make losing Avery any easier, KO is just part of the crew that was never going to be resigned.

[hwangjini_1]

What Bradley did defensively can be replicated by Smart and Brown. I just wish we added a real big who is not a headcase instead.

well, at least ainge got the celtics half way to your hope.