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Re: What's Your Level of Optimism for Morris's Contributions?
« Reply #60 on: July 07, 2017, 01:15:33 PM »

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Whatever he gives I hope it is what we need! Do your job and let the chips fall!!
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Re: What's Your Level of Optimism for Morris's Contributions?
« Reply #61 on: July 07, 2017, 01:19:07 PM »

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are we certain he will stick around and not be traded again? xd
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Re: What's Your Level of Optimism for Morris's Contributions?
« Reply #62 on: July 07, 2017, 01:43:40 PM »

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My opinion of the trade.  The point production is a wash at 2pts per game for the season 16 to 14 AB.  Adding GH point production and we are still going to score points.  I don't know about intangibles and defense.  Can Morris defend?  We all know Avery is excellent.  Loss for the C's if he can't.  Is Morris the kind of professional that AB is?  I tend to doubt it but I am hopeful.  Another loss for the C's but I hope Morris can change my mind.  This had to be an agonizing trade for DA to make.  GM is one tough job.  Good luck to AB, i hope he lights up the league except when he plays Boston.  It's to bad we lose AB because the league is still all about the money. 

Re: What's Your Level of Optimism for Morris's Contributions?
« Reply #63 on: July 07, 2017, 05:18:17 PM »

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Isn't he likely to be in jail next season?  He's been charged with Felony aggravated assault.

Re: What's Your Level of Optimism for Morris's Contributions?
« Reply #64 on: July 07, 2017, 05:39:36 PM »

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Isn't he likely to be in jail next season?  He's been charged with Felony aggravated assault.

Read over the case. It will be dismissed criminally

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« Reply #65 on: July 07, 2017, 05:43:50 PM »

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My expectation for Morris is just to be a slight better Amir Johnson, he'll be useful in the regular season, but probably won't be on the court in the 4th courter in the playoff

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« Reply #66 on: July 07, 2017, 05:50:58 PM »

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Isn't he likely to be in jail next season?  He's been charged with Felony aggravated assault.

Read over the case. It will be dismissed criminally

It doesn't seem like it, they instigated and carried out a gang-beating of a youth league coach in front of witnesses.  He was held on the ground while they kicked him.  He was taken to the hospital for injuries including a fractured nose.  It sounds like there will be jail time to me.

Here's a link
http://www.nba.com/2015/news/04/08/suns-morris-twins-accused-of-beating-former-mentor.ap/

Re: What's Your Level of Optimism for Morris's Contributions?
« Reply #67 on: July 07, 2017, 05:52:54 PM »

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1. He is a very good player that should do well in CBS system,
2. He is tough.
3. Excellent Contract.
4. More than anything, It will fuel the Washington/Boston Rivalry and I have money down that they will get into a fight if we play them in the playoffs.
This time he won't be able to play for his brother when he sprains his ankle.... ;)

Re: What's Your Level of Optimism for Morris's Contributions?
« Reply #68 on: July 07, 2017, 07:10:11 PM »

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Morris is definitely a 3 and when he has played the 4 he's been underwhelming. He's not a rebounder and not a very good defender. What he brings to the table is length and outside shooting at a position that we're already stacked at. Maybe he comes off the bench for some minutes and gets hot from outside, but he's nothing to be excited about.

If we got his brother I'd be more optimistic because he's a legitimate big, a better rebounder, and better defender.

Re: What's Your Level of Optimism for Morris's Contributions?
« Reply #69 on: July 07, 2017, 07:12:53 PM »

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Mine are actually pretty solidly high.  I think he fits a perfect role for the team.  I think he's also better than he showed in Detroit with the fit (not saying he has some big stat jump because I don't know if he gets so many shots, but he will do a lot of things).  I haven't really liked the offense in Detroit when I've seen it and might be hard playing with Drummond (and might make you look like a worse rebounder).  Meanwhile on the Celtics, he will have great spacing and guys like IT and Al setting him up and running pick and rolls.

He is a physical player that can even probably play some C in the playoffs how games get (it was how it was in crunch times of most big games last year).

I am sad to lose Avery but I actually really like this trade a lot.  I was thinking a promising young PF, though not a great one, and couldn't think of anyone besides Portis maybe from Chicago but Morris is a great choice to fit the system.  I think he will be better on the Celtics.  I am not penciling him in take tons of PF minutes because that's not quite him but I think he will find a fit there this year.  I still think the team needs a C.
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Re: What's Your Level of Optimism for Morris's Contributions?
« Reply #70 on: July 07, 2017, 07:26:36 PM »

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Attitude issues aside I think he will flourish with our ball movement system.  He will be option #5 if starting but ball movement should get him nice easy shots and he can hopefully put more energy into rebounding and defense.  We got a player for a position of need.  We couldn't ask Crowder to play pf all year.

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« Reply #71 on: July 07, 2017, 07:35:35 PM »

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With Morris' toughness and ability to guard out to the perimeter, I am not at all worried about his rebounding. It's great that AB had a higher rebound % than Morris, but does anybody actually think AB is likely to outmuscle/outposition him for a tough rebound?

Guards all around the league have been cleaning up the easy boards in recent years. Look at guys like Westbrook and Harden - I am going to go out on a limb and say they aren't two of the best rebounders in the league.

Morris won't be heavily depended on for scoring, but his presence as a big (yes, he will be a big in Brad's system) will be very versatile and I suspect, effective.

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« Reply #72 on: July 07, 2017, 07:39:45 PM »

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With Morris' toughness and ability to guard out to the perimeter, I am not at all worried about his rebounding. It's great that AB had a higher rebound % than Morris, but does anybody actually think AB is likely to outmuscle/outposition him for a tough rebound?

Guards all around the league have been cleaning up the easy boards in recent years. Look at guys like Westbrook and Harden - I am going to go out on a limb and say they aren't two of the best rebounders in the league.



Rebounding is definitely very complicated and just looking at numbers is not enough.  He was also playing with Drummond which to me has to factor in ways to how he plays that include rebounding.  But those guard rebounds are a good example and I think on the other end there's an Al Horford who is fine to box out his man and let someone else chase down the board more (not that Al is so great at boxing out or rebounding of course but I think he makes more of a difference than his numbers there).
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« Reply #73 on: July 07, 2017, 07:52:22 PM »

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With Morris' toughness and ability to guard out to the perimeter, I am not at all worried about his rebounding. It's great that AB had a higher rebound % than Morris, but does anybody actually think AB is likely to outmuscle/outposition him for a tough rebound?

Guards all around the league have been cleaning up the easy boards in recent years. Look at guys like Westbrook and Harden - I am going to go out on a limb and say they aren't two of the best rebounders in the league.

Morris won't be heavily depended on for scoring, but his presence as a big (yes, he will be a big in Brad's system) will be very versatile and I suspect, effective.

Long shots, long rebounds. Increasingly at the foul line instead of under the boards.  And more of them, given the lower percentages.  It's the death of the big man. It's McHale chucking 3's in 1993.  It's a travesty.

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« Reply #74 on: July 07, 2017, 07:57:53 PM »

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With Morris' toughness and ability to guard out to the perimeter, I am not at all worried about his rebounding. It's great that AB had a higher rebound % than Morris, but does anybody actually think AB is likely to outmuscle/outposition him for a tough rebound?

Guards all around the league have been cleaning up the easy boards in recent years. Look at guys like Westbrook and Harden - I am going to go out on a limb and say they aren't two of the best rebounders in the league.

Morris won't be heavily depended on for scoring, but his presence as a big (yes, he will be a big in Brad's system) will be very versatile and I suspect, effective.

Long shots, long rebounds. Increasingly at the foul line instead of under the boards.  And more of them, given the lower percentages.  It's the death of the big man. It's McHale chucking 3's in 1993.  It's a travesty.

Remember that long 3 against the Pistons in the playoffs that McHale made where his foot may have been on the line but he had on white shoes so the refs couldn't tell?