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Re: What's Your Level of Optimism for Morris's Contributions?
« Reply #30 on: July 07, 2017, 12:09:07 PM »

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I'm hopeful he won't make the locker room implode. Other than that, I hope he won't have to see the floor much.
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Re: What's Your Level of Optimism for Morris's Contributions?
« Reply #31 on: July 07, 2017, 12:12:07 PM »

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Huge.  Bigger stronger jaw crowder type.  Shoots 3 and rebounds.  Big win for us all around.

He doesn't rebound. Worse than Olynyk.

Whether he CAN rebound at least competently without a vacuum cleaner like Drummond next to him is probably something we're going to have to find out.

Re: What's Your Level of Optimism for Morris's Contributions?
« Reply #32 on: July 07, 2017, 12:13:48 PM »

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4 rebounds in 30+ minutes is pathetic. 2 assists. Lol

Re: What's Your Level of Optimism for Morris's Contributions?
« Reply #33 on: July 07, 2017, 12:16:08 PM »

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Huge.  Bigger stronger jaw crowder type.  Shoots 3 and rebounds.  Big win for us all around.

He doesn't rebound. Worse than Olynyk.

Whether he CAN rebound at least competently without a vacuum cleaner like Drummond next to him is probably something we're going to have to find out.

He averaged 4.6 rebounds last year.  It's something.

Re: What's Your Level of Optimism for Morris's Contributions?
« Reply #34 on: July 07, 2017, 12:17:39 PM »

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Huge.  Bigger stronger jaw crowder type.  Shoots 3 and rebounds.  Big win for us all around.

He doesn't rebound. Worse than Olynyk.

Whether he CAN rebound at least competently without a vacuum cleaner like Drummond next to him is probably something we're going to have to find out.
The dude is a SF. He actually grabbed more rebounds per 48 at the SF position last season (he was pretty much a wash with the opposition), and was outrebounded 11 to 6.5 per 48 at the PF position. Take this with a grain of salt though, because for 82games.com, "Morris at the 4" generally means that the Pistons were trotting out Henson and Morris together at the wings (so who the PF was in this lineup is anyone's guess).

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Re: What's Your Level of Optimism for Morris's Contributions?
« Reply #35 on: July 07, 2017, 12:18:19 PM »

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He's a pretty good player on an excellent contract. Ainge did pretty well.
More like an average player on an excellent contract.

I'd much rather see us trading AB for a future pick (4 years cost control instead of 2).

I most certainly would not.  We have just drafted picks at #6 (Smart), #3 (Brown) and #3 (Tatum) and still have two potential lottery picks in next years draft.

I have absolutely no desire to add any more future picks - in fact I wish Danny would start offloading some of the ones he's got, because with this many of them projecting to fall in the lottery our future is pretty much set.  I'd much rather work on the 'now'.   
The 'now' is a dead end. No matter what we do, we aren't beating the Warriors.

Not to mention Horford - M. Morris may very well be the worst rebounding duo (PF-C) in the league.

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Assuming Washington matches on Otto Porter sheet, Brooklyn will be a strong contender in the pursuit of Caldwell-Pope, sources tell ESPN.

Ugh, this deal is getting worse and worse.

Re: What's Your Level of Optimism for Morris's Contributions?
« Reply #36 on: July 07, 2017, 12:21:19 PM »

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Huge.  Bigger stronger jaw crowder type.  Shoots 3 and rebounds.  Big win for us all around.

He doesn't rebound. Worse than Olynyk.

Whether he CAN rebound at least competently without a vacuum cleaner like Drummond next to him is probably something we're going to have to find out.
randle averaged double that in less minutes. And randle isn't the greatest player in the world. Oh well can't do anything about this

He averaged 4.6 rebounds last year.  It's something.

Re: What's Your Level of Optimism for Morris's Contributions?
« Reply #37 on: July 07, 2017, 12:21:20 PM »

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Huge.  Bigger stronger jaw crowder type.  Shoots 3 and rebounds.  Big win for us all around.

He doesn't rebound. Worse than Olynyk.

Whether he CAN rebound at least competently without a vacuum cleaner like Drummond next to him is probably something we're going to have to find out.

He averaged 4.6 rebounds last year.  It's something.

He got 5.1 per 36 with a 7.8% TRB%.  Bradley at 7 inches shorter got 6.6 per 36 and 10.1%. He's a poor rebounder for a quasi-big.

Like I said the big x-factor is how much Drummond was affecting that. We'll see. But we became an even worse rebounding team with this move.

Re: What's Your Level of Optimism for Morris's Contributions?
« Reply #38 on: July 07, 2017, 12:24:11 PM »

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4 rebounds in 30+ minutes is pathetic. 2 assists. Lol


There's only so many rebounds in a game, the center he was playing with was one of the best rebounders in the NBA. He'll be at least as good a rebounder than Amir.

Re: What's Your Level of Optimism for Morris's Contributions?
« Reply #39 on: July 07, 2017, 12:25:55 PM »

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Huge.  Bigger stronger jaw crowder type.  Shoots 3 and rebounds.  Big win for us all around.

He doesn't rebound. Worse than Olynyk.

Whether he CAN rebound at least competently without a vacuum cleaner like Drummond next to him is probably something we're going to have to find out.

He averaged 4.6 rebounds last year.  It's something.

He got 5.1 per 36 with a 7.8% TRB%.  Bradley at 7 inches shorter got 6.6 per 36 and 10.1%. He's a poor rebounder for a quasi-big.

Like I said the big x-factor is how much Drummond was affecting that. We'll see. But we became an even worse rebounding team with this move.

That's beyond poor as a rebounder - that's horrendous. Makes Kelly Olynyk look like Kevin Love by comparison...which is why I am assuming they'll use him at SF and that more deals are to come.

Re: What's Your Level of Optimism for Morris's Contributions?
« Reply #40 on: July 07, 2017, 12:27:23 PM »

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He's a pretty good player on an excellent contract. Ainge did pretty well.
More like an average player on an excellent contract.

I'd much rather see us trading AB for a future pick (4 years cost control instead of 2).

I most certainly would not.  We have just drafted picks at #6 (Smart), #3 (Brown) and #3 (Tatum) and still have two potential lottery picks in next years draft.

I have absolutely no desire to add any more future picks - in fact I wish Danny would start offloading some of the ones he's got, because with this many of them projecting to fall in the lottery our future is pretty much set.  I'd much rather work on the 'now'.   
The 'now' is a dead end. No matter what we do, we aren't beating the Warriors.

Not to mention Horford - M. Morris may very well be the worst rebounding duo (PF-C) in the league.

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Adrian Wojnarowski‏@wojespn

Assuming Washington matches on Otto Porter sheet, Brooklyn will be a strong contender in the pursuit of Caldwell-Pope, sources tell ESPN.

Ugh, this deal is getting worse and worse.

That move would do nothing to move the needle next year for Brooklyn.

Re: What's Your Level of Optimism for Morris's Contributions?
« Reply #41 on: July 07, 2017, 12:28:52 PM »

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4 rebounds in 30+ minutes is pathetic. 2 assists. Lol


There's only so many rebounds in a game, the center he was playing with was one of the best rebounders in the NBA. He'll be at least as good a rebounder than Amir.

He has averaged 5 rebounds per 36 for his entire career - less than 5 per 36 most seasons, even long before he came to Detroit.

Amir has a career average of 8 rebounds per 36.  He's not even remotely close to sniffing Amir's shadow as a rebounder.

Re: What's Your Level of Optimism for Morris's Contributions?
« Reply #42 on: July 07, 2017, 12:29:03 PM »

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I disagree, he fits as a big in Brad's system. Rebounding is not something they value as much as the ability to switch on defense and stretch the floor on offense. They have an abundance of of swings, and even if they make another move and bring in a big, I still think Morris plays as a big in Brad's system.

Re: What's Your Level of Optimism for Morris's Contributions?
« Reply #43 on: July 07, 2017, 12:31:34 PM »

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Huge.  Bigger stronger jaw crowder type.  Shoots 3 and rebounds.  Big win for us all around.

He doesn't rebound. Worse than Olynyk.

Whether he CAN rebound at least competently without a vacuum cleaner like Drummond next to him is probably something we're going to have to find out.

He averaged 4.6 rebounds last year.  It's something.

He got 5.1 per 36 with a 7.8% TRB%.  Bradley at 7 inches shorter got 6.6 per 36 and 10.1%. He's a poor rebounder for a quasi-big.

Like I said the big x-factor is how much Drummond was affecting that. We'll see. But we became an even worse rebounding team with this move.

Do watch any of his games?  The guy is a beast.  It's more pathetic we had/have guys on this team taller than him that won't rebound unless it falls in their lap.  At least he'll get after it.

Re: What's Your Level of Optimism for Morris's Contributions?
« Reply #44 on: July 07, 2017, 12:35:18 PM »

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0.3 blocks in 33 minutes of play

1 rebound every 7 minutes of play. One of the worst rebounding rates in the league

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