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Washburn: Crowder to Hawks in the works?
« on: July 05, 2017, 04:13:02 AM »

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Four-year deal for Hayward. Now it's likely Jae Crowder is on the trade market, Atlanta may be his next destination.
7:52 PM - 4 Jul 2017

Just saw this when I woke up, sry if it has already been posted

Re: Washburn: Crowder to Hawks in the works?
« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2017, 04:19:03 AM »

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Sounds like speculation. I'll wait until more reliable sources come out.

Re: Washburn: Crowder to Hawks in the works?
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What would people want from Atlanta?
'23 Historical Draft: Orlando Magic.

PG: Terry Porter (90-91) / Steve Francis (00-01)
SG: Joe Dumars (92-93) / Jeff Hornacek (91-92) / Jerry Stackhouse (00-01)
SF: Brandon Roy (08-09) / Walter Davis (78-79)
PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

Re: Washburn: Crowder to Hawks in the works?
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What would people want from Atlanta?

Picks
Salary dump

Re: Washburn: Crowder to Hawks in the works?
« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2017, 04:34:54 AM »

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Prince? We could use some wings..

[dang] I hope this isn't true, possibly the worst trade partner. Miles Plumlee? Pass.
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Re: Washburn: Crowder to Hawks in the works?
« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2017, 04:40:27 AM »

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John Collins?

Aren't there restrictions on when first rounders can be traded?
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Re: Washburn: Crowder to Hawks in the works?
« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2017, 04:41:44 AM »

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Prince? We could use some wings..

[dang] I hope this isn't true, possibly the worst trade partner. Miles Plumlee? Pass.

We are not getting back players EXCEPT non-guaranteed contracts or extremely cheap rookie-scaled ones. We just want to get rid of salary.

Re: Washburn: Crowder to Hawks in the works?
« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2017, 04:52:35 AM »

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Prince? We could use some wings..

[dang] I hope this isn't true, possibly the worst trade partner. Miles Plumlee? Pass.
what do you mean we need wings, it's like one thing that we don't need, that's why we are getting rid of Crowder.
Right now, we don't have a starting C or PF, depending on how you look at Horford.
But i think it is essential that we trade crowder, ASAP
what doesn't kill you makes you stronger

Re: Washburn: Crowder to Hawks in the works?
« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2017, 05:02:20 AM »

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Prince? We could use some wings..

[dang] I hope this isn't true, possibly the worst trade partner. Miles Plumlee? Pass.

We are not getting back players EXCEPT non-guaranteed contracts or extremely cheap rookie-scaled ones. We just want to get rid of salary.

Jae has a cap hit of 6.8 million, we could take back about 4-5 million, after waiving all our vets, I think I've seen someone analyze.

4 mill doesn't get you much these days, not sure it would be enough for Mo Speights

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Re: Washburn: Crowder to Hawks in the works?
« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2017, 05:13:12 AM »

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What a dumb thing to say from Washburn.
Pure speculation. No logic whatsoever, poor understand of Cs roster.
Everything is wrong basically.

Don't like fans that were so thrilled when Danny signed Crowder to the "contract of the decade" and now throw him under the bus just because he didn't appreciate you applaud an opponent.

Very sick of this situation.
Crowder has been working his ass off, take a pay-cut, embrace everything but you and reporters disrespect him.
I thought Celtics fans were the best in the world?

Also, I feel no sympathy for Utah's fans. The same fans that were angry at their front office for drafting Hayward.
I will never understand how a simple fan thinks he knows better. Pathetic.

Be a real fan, trust the FO decisions, embrace the culture and cheers for the players.
If you can't do that, maybe you are supporting the wrong team.
Not complicated.

Re: Washburn: Crowder to Hawks in the works?
« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2017, 05:23:53 AM »

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I think it may have logic what Washburn has heard/proposed. Atlanta has cap space and can absorb Jae's contract without sending back players.

I'd trade Crowder to Atlanta for a 2018 first round pick, the best of Minnesota and theirs (lottery protected). Teams know we have to trade some players to make room for Hayward, so we don't have much leverage here. Getting Crowder for around 18 pick next year could be a good return.

Re: Washburn: Crowder to Hawks in the works?
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I think I prefer the Denver deal.

Re: Washburn: Crowder to Hawks in the works?
« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2017, 05:38:11 AM »

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What a dumb thing to say from Washburn.
Pure speculation. No logic whatsoever, poor understand of Cs roster.
Everything is wrong basically.

Don't like fans that were so thrilled when Danny signed Crowder to the "contract of the decade" and now throw him under the bus just because he didn't appreciate you applaud an opponent.

Very sick of this situation.
Crowder has been working his ass off, take a pay-cut, embrace everything but you and reporters disrespect him.
I thought Celtics fans were the best in the world?

Also, I feel no sympathy for Utah's fans. The same fans that were angry at their front office for drafting Hayward.
I will never understand how a simple fan thinks he knows better. Pathetic.

Be a real fan, trust the FO decisions, embrace the culture and cheers for the players.
If you can't do that, maybe you are supporting the wrong team.
Not complicated.

TP!!!!!!!

Re: Washburn: Crowder to Hawks in the works?
« Reply #13 on: July 05, 2017, 06:26:28 AM »

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Very sick of this situation.
Crowder has been working his ass off, take a pay-cut, embrace everything but you and reporters disrespect him.
I thought Celtics fans were the best in the world?

I liked Crowder more before he thought he was a first option on offense.   The bottom line is this:

This is a business, Ainge is our GM, and this is  not a loyalty litmus test.  He traded PP and KG against fan wishes, he would trade Crowder in the blink of an eye.

Re: Washburn: Crowder to Hawks in the works?
« Reply #14 on: July 05, 2017, 07:02:00 AM »

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I think it may have logic what Washburn has heard/proposed. Atlanta has cap space and can absorb Jae's contract without sending back players.

I'd trade Crowder to Atlanta for a 2018 first round pick, the best of Minnesota and theirs (lottery protected). Teams know we have to trade some players to make room for Hayward, so we don't have much leverage here. Getting Crowder for around 18 pick next year could be a good return.
Yeah their leverage is low given the C's very public situation, but I do think Crowder has some value around the league. As long as more than one team has interest, there is a bit of negotiating room.

It would be good to help Atlanta so they don't fall too far into the lotto.  We don't want them to threaten the Nets for the worst record.