No need to trade one of Smart/Crowder/Bradley in order to sign Hayward

[Jvalin]

No need to trade one of Smart/Crowder/Bradley. All we have to do in order to create max cap space is :

- dump Rozier + Jackson for future pick(s)/salary relief
- stash Yabu


According to Shams Charania of The Vertical, the league set the salary cap for the upcoming campaign at $99,093,000.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2719227-nba-reportedly-sets-2017-18-salary-cap-at-99093000


$99,093,000 x 30% = $29,727,900 (Hayward's max)

1. Hayward $29,727,900
2. Horford $27,734,405
3. Bradley $8,808,989
4. Crowder $6,796,117
5. Thomas $6,261,394
6. Tatum $5,645,400
7. Brown $4,956,480
8. Smart $4,538,019
9. Zizic $1,645,200
10. rookie minimum $815,615
11. rookie minimum $815,615
12. rookie minimum $815,615

Total $98,560,749

[liam]

Is someone not there? That's all?

[liam]

Looks like some bigs are needed to balance out the roster and a 3rd point guard...

[viulo]

I think you have to have 12 and only then add Hayward, so it would be 98560+815
99375... Slightly above

[Chris22]

You are forgetting Theis.

[osterhagen]

You are forgetting Theis.

theis is going to take rookie min

[celtics2030]

Try being realistic a little bit.

First of all, these guys all will see significant minute drop offs. That is no doubt about that.

The sad and almost for sure truth is that 2 of these guys are probably gone

[chambers]

No need to trade one of Smart/Crowder/Bradley. All we have to do in order to create max cap space is :

- dump Rozier + Jackson for future pick(s)/salary relief
- stash Yabu


According to Shams Charania of The Vertical, the league set the salary cap for the upcoming campaign at $99,093,000.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2719227-nba-reportedly-sets-2017-18-salary-cap-at-99093000


$99,093,000 x 30% = $29,727,900 (Hayward's max)

1. Hayward $29,727,900
2. Horford $27,734,405
3. Bradley $8,808,989
4. Crowder $6,796,117
5. Thomas $6,261,394
6. Tatum $5,645,400
7. Brown $4,956,480
8. Smart $4,538,019
9. Zizic $1,645,200
10. rookie minimum $815,615
11. rookie minimum $815,615
12. rookie minimum $815,615

Total $98,560,749

wrong, we need to pay Semi and Theiss at the very minimum. We are also moving Rozier for one more year of Avery Bradley.

[Irish Stew]

never mind

[chiken Green]

Would Hate to See Marcus or Bradley go but I feel in my heart that we will not Pay Bradley what he is worth and the kid really deserves it..   He is one of my favorite Celtics and he is a winner but he only plays 1 position..

Crowder on the other hand - just a stop Gap.. Hayward Will start in his spot (which will kill him) and  both Brown & Tatum need those minutes..  Brown looks ready for a bigger piece of his pie..

We will not be a worse Team without Crowder..

[CelticSince83]

No need to trade one of Smart/Crowder/Bradley. All we have to do in order to create max cap space is :

- dump Rozier + Jackson for future pick(s)/salary relief
- stash Yabu


According to Shams Charania of The Vertical, the league set the salary cap for the upcoming campaign at $99,093,000.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2719227-nba-reportedly-sets-2017-18-salary-cap-at-99093000


$99,093,000 x 30% = $29,727,900 (Hayward's max)

1. Hayward $29,727,900
2. Horford $27,734,405
3. Bradley $8,808,989
4. Crowder $6,796,117
5. Thomas $6,261,394
6. Tatum $5,645,400
7. Brown $4,956,480
8. Smart $4,538,019
9. Zizic $1,645,200
10. rookie minimum $815,615
11. rookie minimum $815,615
12. rookie minimum $815,615

Total $98,560,749

 

[keevsnick]

I think you have to have 12 and only then add Hayward, so it would be 98560+815
99375... Slightly above

Precisely. The roster hold for that 12th spot comes before adding Heyward, meaning the Celtics after dumping Rozier and Jackson and cutting everybody else with non guarantee are still 270K short of the max. If Hayward signs for max, as has been reported, somebody with a higher salary than rozier needs to go. That means Smart, Bradley or Crowder most likely along with keeping rozier.

[Jvalin]

I think you have to have 12 and only then add Hayward, so it would be 98560+815
99375... Slightly above

Precisely. The roster hold for that 12th spot comes before adding Heyward, meaning the Celtics after dumping Rozier and Jackson and cutting everybody else with non guarantee are still 270K short of the max. If Hayward signs for max, as has been reported, somebody with a higher salary than rozier needs to go. That means Smart, Bradley or Crowder most likely along with keeping rozier.

Τhat's not how it works.

According to Roy H. and saltlover, just add up all the salaries, cap holds and cap charges after Hayward signs a max.

Are we still under the cap? If so, we're fine.

wrong, we need to pay Semi and Theiss at the very minimum. We are also moving Rozier for one more year of Avery Bradley.

Second round draft picks have no cap holds.
Theis is gonna sign for the minimum. We will first sign Hayward and then use the minimum salary exception to sign Theis.

[BitterJim]

No need to trade one of Smart/Crowder/Bradley. All we have to do in order to create max cap space is :

- dump Rozier + Jackson for future pick(s)/salary relief
- stash Yabu


According to Shams Charania of The Vertical, the league set the salary cap for the upcoming campaign at $99,093,000.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2719227-nba-reportedly-sets-2017-18-salary-cap-at-99093000


$99,093,000 x 30% = $29,727,900 (Hayward's max)

1. Hayward $29,727,900
2. Horford $27,734,405
3. Bradley $8,808,989
4. Crowder $6,796,117
5. Thomas $6,261,394
6. Tatum $5,645,400
7. Brown $4,956,480
8. Smart $4,538,019
9. Zizic $1,645,200
10. rookie minimum $815,615
11. rookie minimum $815,615
12. rookie minimum $815,615

Total $98,560,749

wrong, we need to pay Semi and Theiss at the very minimum. We are also moving Rozier for one more year of Avery Bradley.

Semi and Theiss will both be getting the minimum, so they are not a factor. Jvalin's plan works (provided we actually can dump Jackson and Rozier for no returning salary and get Yabu to stay overseas)

[saltlover]

No need to trade one of Smart/Crowder/Bradley. All we have to do in order to create max cap space is :

- dump Rozier + Jackson for future pick(s)/salary relief
- stash Yabu


According to Shams Charania of The Vertical, the league set the salary cap for the upcoming campaign at $99,093,000.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2719227-nba-reportedly-sets-2017-18-salary-cap-at-99093000


$99,093,000 x 30% = $29,727,900 (Hayward's max)

1. Hayward $29,727,900
2. Horford $27,734,405
3. Bradley $8,808,989
4. Crowder $6,796,117
5. Thomas $6,261,394
6. Tatum $5,645,400
7. Brown $4,956,480
8. Smart $4,538,019
9. Zizic $1,645,200
10. rookie minimum $815,615
11. rookie minimum $815,615
12. rookie minimum $815,615

Total $98,560,749

You're missing a rookie minimum, unfortunately.  You have to have 12 players under contract, cap holds, and minimum roster charges BEFORE you sign Hayward, not including him.  It's a nuance that doesn't usually matter in our discussions, but today it's the difference in being $300k short.