If Trader Danny is going for a "win now" situation

[jbpats]

Who gets us there? Or more importantly what realistic trades and FA acquisitions get us past Cleveland AND Golden State? I'm not talking about unrealistic scenarios where we have a dream team that we can't afford.

Although i'm sure it's pure speculation, Anthony Davis name is being thrown around here and I believe he is the one piece that could possibly give GSW a run for their money. Does this team do it, albeit with a very thin bench *unless we get some established vets to come in for the min, who are in win now mode*

Davis
Horford
Hayward
Smart
IT

Assumption: Brown, Crowder, Bradley are traded, Amir, Zeller, KO are gone in free agency.

[BostonClamCrowdah]

No, that team doesn't even beat Cleveland

[gouki88]

No, that team doesn't even beat Cleveland

It probably definitely does. The best big man in the league, combined with 2 of the other best scorers in the league on the perimeter, one of the best all-round big men in the league and one of the best defenders in the league all on the same team, against LeBron (another year older) and his merry band of Kyrie, KLove and other players (many of whom should be long retired).

[KGs Knee]

New Orleans is not trading Anthony Davis.

I would love him here in Boston, but it isn't happening any time soon (if ever).

[hodgy03038]

No, that team doesn't even beat Cleveland

It probably definitely does. The best big man in the league, combined with 2 of the other best scorers in the league on the perimeter, one of the best all-round big men in the league and one of the best defenders in the league all on the same team, against LeBron (another year older) and his merry band of Kyrie, KLove and other players (many of whom should be long retired).

I like that probably definitely but I agree that team can beat Cleveland. Not sure about GSW but I think it beats Cleveland.

[BostonClamCrowdah]

No, that team doesn't even beat Cleveland

It probably definitely does. The best big man in the league, combined with 2 of the other best scorers in the league on the perimeter, one of the best all-round big men in the league and one of the best defenders in the league all on the same team, against LeBron (another year older) and his merry band of Kyrie, KLove and other players (many of whom should be long retired).

Except, Cleveland is better than you at every match up except A Davis lol

LeBron ain't gettin beat by that squad

Though I would still do those moves because AD is so young still, he'll outlast LBJ and GSW

[gouki88]

No, that team doesn't even beat Cleveland

It probably definitely does. The best big man in the league, combined with 2 of the other best scorers in the league on the perimeter, one of the best all-round big men in the league and one of the best defenders in the league all on the same team, against LeBron (another year older) and his merry band of Kyrie, KLove and other players (many of whom should be long retired).

I like that probably definitely but I agree that team can beat Cleveland. Not sure about GSW but I think it beats Cleveland.

I can't be too confident 

It'd be tight with GSW, probably 5-6 games their way. Unless our bench gets flooded with vets looking to win like Miami and Cleveland did.

[gouki88]

No, that team doesn't even beat Cleveland

It probably definitely does. The best big man in the league, combined with 2 of the other best scorers in the league on the perimeter, one of the best all-round big men in the league and one of the best defenders in the league all on the same team, against LeBron (another year older) and his merry band of Kyrie, KLove and other players (many of whom should be long retired).

Except, Cleveland is better than you at every match up except A Davis lol

LeBron ain't gettin beat by that squad

Though I would still do those moves because AD is so young still, he'll outlast LBJ and GSW

Kyrie isn't better than IT (unless he comes back worse than previously). JR and Smart is negligible, as is Horford and Love.
LeBron is quite a bit better than Hayward, but the gap between AD and Thompson is considerably bigger.

[ETNCeltics]

No, that team doesn't even beat Cleveland

It probably definitely does. The best big man in the league, combined with 2 of the other best scorers in the league on the perimeter, one of the best all-round big men in the league and one of the best defenders in the league all on the same team, against LeBron (another year older) and his merry band of Kyrie, KLove and other players (many of whom should be long retired).

Except, Cleveland is better than you at every match up except A Davis lol

LeBron ain't gettin beat by that squad

Though I would still do those moves because AD is so young still, he'll outlast LBJ and GSW

Kyrie isn't better than IT (unless he comes back worse than previously). JR and Smart is negligible, as is Horford and Love.
LeBron is quite a bit better than Hayward, but the gap between AD and Thompson is considerably bigger.

Kyrie is absolutely better than IT, and the gap between Lebron and almost anyone we put at the 3 is going to make the difference, IMO. If we had AD we'd have a chance, but against the team CLE will field next year, we'd still likely be a slight underdog.

GSW would be a big favorite over that Celtic team. Which puts the notion of mortgaging everything to get AD in perspective.

[jbpats]

No, that team doesn't even beat Cleveland

It probably definitely does. The best big man in the league, combined with 2 of the other best scorers in the league on the perimeter, one of the best all-round big men in the league and one of the best defenders in the league all on the same team, against LeBron (another year older) and his merry band of Kyrie, KLove and other players (many of whom should be long retired).

Except, Cleveland is better than you at every match up except A Davis lol

LeBron ain't gettin beat by that squad

Though I would still do those moves because AD is so young still, he'll outlast LBJ and GSW

Kyrie isn't better than IT (unless he comes back worse than previously). JR and Smart is negligible, as is Horford and Love.
LeBron is quite a bit better than Hayward, but the gap between AD and Thompson is considerably bigger.

Kyrie is absolutely better than IT, and the gap between Lebron and almost anyone we put at the 3 is going to make the difference, IMO. If we had AD we'd have a chance, but against the team CLE will field next year, we'd still likely be a slight underdog.

GSW would be a big favorite over that Celtic team. Which puts the notion of mortgaging everything to get AD in perspective.

My original question still stands, that was the team I suggested if Ainge is in win now mode.. is there any moves he can make that put us on the same level next season as GSW? I really don't think there is.. which makes the Fultz trade more puzzling (at least to me).

[Moranis]

Just going to post my usual, however I believe the trade back, now allows Boston to keep Rozier

So sign Griffin in free agency.  Then trade Crowder, Smart, and Jackson? for George and Seraphin (include Boston 2018 1st if necessary).  Re-sign Amir and Green at vet minimum (if they come back).  Sign other vets or rookies to fill out the bench.

PG - Thomas, Rozier
SG - Bradley, Green
SF - George, Brown
PF - Griffin, Johnson, Nader
C - Horford, Seraphin, Zizic

Fill out the Bench with 37 and the veteran or rookie minimum guys.  You keep Yabu stashed another year and still have LAL and BKN 18 picks to either add to the team or build for the future

I think that team would be 50/50 against Cleveland and have a decent shot (maybe 30%)against Golden State if it was healthy. 

[BostonClamCrowdah]

Kyrie is head and shoulders above IT lol come on, bro

Cleveland wins that series pretty easily

[Ilikesports17]

Thomas is not appreciably worse than Irving.

[gouki88]

In what ways is Kyrie better than IT?

Defence? They're both abysmal so it is a bit of a no contest.

Scoring? No, the Celtic IT averages more points than Kyrie does.

Passing? No, Celtic IT averages more assists, alongside a higher assist percentage, but Kyrie averages less turnovers, so it's pretty much even.

IT has also never had the little bonus of playing next to LeBron James, who creates tonnes of open looks for his teammates, like Kyrie.

So no, I don't see how Kyrie is better.

[Boston Garden Leprechaun]

Just going to post my usual, however I believe the trade back, now allows Boston to keep Rozier

So sign Griffin in free agency.  Then trade Crowder, Smart, and Jackson? for George and Seraphin (include Boston 2018 1st if necessary).  Re-sign Amir and Green at vet minimum (if they come back).  Sign other vets or rookies to fill out the bench.

PG - Thomas, Rozier
SG - Bradley, Green
SF - George, Brown
PF - Griffin, Johnson, Nader
C - Horford, Seraphin, Zizic

Fill out the Bench with 37 and the veteran or rookie minimum guys.  You keep Yabu stashed another year and still have LAL and BKN 18 picks to either add to the team or build for the future

I think that team would be 50/50 against Cleveland and have a decent shot (maybe 30%)against Golden State if it was healthy. 

yeah i like that plan also. gives us a safety net with still drafting and developing kids for the future in case signing hayward and Pg does not get it done.