So, no Gordon Hayward?

[mef730]

Either Jackson or Tatum plays the 3. Maybe the small-ball 4, but certainly not a full-timer. We're massively over-resourced at the 3 if we take Hayward, even if JB plays the 2.

So, if we keep the pick, does this mean no Hayward?

Mike

[Celtics18]

I would say; yes, no Hayward.

[TheSundanceKid]

Trading down makes it easier to make the cap space so that could point towards it being more likely. There's also rumours floating about that it's not over and there could be another move.
Perhaps it means we are looking at Griffin more seriously? Or perhaps we are moving some players in a package for another star?
I think that this move points more than anything to the fact that we do want a max FA this summer

[Roy H.]

I think this trade means don't get your hopes up for a max free agent. I think Danny is going to try to restructure IT and Bradley, without majorly improving the team. I think his plan is to be a playoff team while adding draft picks.

[csfansince60s]

Either Jackson or Tatum plays the 3. Maybe the small-ball 4, but certainly not a full-timer. We're massively over-resourced at the 3 if we take Hayward, even if JB plays the 2.

So, if we keep the pick, does this mean no Hayward?

Mike

It's the opposite.

We're getting Hayward and so we won't be picking with the 3, we'll be trading it.

[BostonClamCrowdah]

Either Jackson or Tatum plays the 3. Maybe the small-ball 4, but certainly not a full-timer. We're massively over-resourced at the 3 if we take Hayward, even if JB plays the 2.

So, if we keep the pick, does this mean no Hayward?

Mike

It's the opposite.

We're getting Hayward and so we won't be picking with the 3, we'll be trading it.

Lol, no, absolutely not

[KGs Knee]

Either Jackson or Tatum plays the 3. Maybe the small-ball 4, but certainly not a full-timer. We're massively over-resourced at the 3 if we take Hayward, even if JB plays the 2.

So, if we keep the pick, does this mean no Hayward?

Mike

It's the opposite.

We're getting Hayward and so we won't be picking with the 3, we'll be trading it.

Yup, we're trading #3, signing Hayward, and keeping the Lakers/Kings pick.

Genius!

[td450]

I think a significant motivation for the pick swap was the rookie salary scale. The 3rd pick gives us an extra $1M in cap space, and that lessens the need for some rather difficult moves to produce a full offer. I expect Ainge will be aggressive in free agency.

Even if we had drafted Fultz, bringing in Hayward was going to require other trades to rebalance the roster.

In past seasons, Ainge always had a conservative fallback path available with little negative consequences. Not this year. He has to make some changes, or the team loses out. Almost anything could happen in the next two weeks.

[csfansince60s]

I think this trade means don't get your hopes up for a max free agent. I think Danny is going to try to restructure IT and Bradley, without majorly improving the team. I think his plan is to be a playoff team while adding draft picks.

Hard to see that given all of Ainge's moves and lack thereof at the deadline to preserve cap space at the  cost of improving in the short term.

[Phantom255x]

Either Jackson or Tatum plays the 3. Maybe the small-ball 4, but certainly not a full-timer. We're massively over-resourced at the 3 if we take Hayward, even if JB plays the 2.

So, if we keep the pick, does this mean no Hayward?

Mike

It's the opposite.

We're getting Hayward and so we won't be picking with the 3, we'll be trading it.

For who?? Butler or George?

That just adds to the logjam at 2/3. AND George is an expiring contract.

Butler is a little overrated on here IMHO (I like him, but he isn't closing the gap between us and Cleveland like say, Paul George would).

[Roy H.]

Either Jackson or Tatum plays the 3. Maybe the small-ball 4, but certainly not a full-timer. We're massively over-resourced at the 3 if we take Hayward, even if JB plays the 2.

So, if we keep the pick, does this mean no Hayward?

Mike

It's the opposite.

We're getting Hayward and so we won't be picking with the 3, we'll be trading it.

Yup, we're trading #3, signing Hayward, and keeping the Lakers/Kings pick.

Genius!

If it works out that way, it is indeed genius. I'm skeptical, though.

[mctyson]

I think this trade means don't get your hopes up for a max free agent. I think Danny is going to try to restructure IT and Bradley, without majorly improving the team. I think his plan is to be a playoff team while adding draft picks.

It would seem that saving the money between #1 and #3 would make it more likely for a Free Agent, no?

Otherwise the Horford signing makes little sense.  They were a playoff team without him.

[csfansince60s]

Either Jackson or Tatum plays the 3. Maybe the small-ball 4, but certainly not a full-timer. We're massively over-resourced at the 3 if we take Hayward, even if JB plays the 2.

So, if we keep the pick, does this mean no Hayward?

Mike

It's the opposite.

We're getting Hayward and so we won't be picking with the 3, we'll be trading it.

For who?? Butler or George?

That just adds to the logjam at 2/3. AND George is an expiring contract.

Butler is a little overrated on here IMHO (I like him, but he isn't closing the gap between us and Cleveland like say, Paul George would).

About a week ago, Ainge alluded to us being surprised.

He said something to the effect of: sometimes trades come out of nowhere to the general public , often involving names never mentioned.

Ainge has done this before.

Wouldn't be surprised if it happens again, and Butler/George aren't involved.

[csfansince60s]

Either Jackson or Tatum plays the 3. Maybe the small-ball 4, but certainly not a full-timer. We're massively over-resourced at the 3 if we take Hayward, even if JB plays the 2.

So, if we keep the pick, does this mean no Hayward?

Mike

It's the opposite.

We're getting Hayward and so we won't be picking with the 3, we'll be trading it.

Yup, we're trading #3, signing Hayward, and keeping the Lakers/Kings pick.

Genius!

Exactly!!

[Tr1boy]

no guarantee Hayward is coming here

Utah will offer max, Heat will try to woo him over

If the Heat somehow entice Griffin to sign, then Hayward may want to join the heat instead