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If Carmelo gets stretched?
« on: June 15, 2017, 04:40:58 PM »

Offline liam

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Melo could be a great pickup for The Celtics for a minimum and a chance at a ring. He would be a perfect power forward in BS system. The CAVS look very beatable...

https://www.sny.tv/knicks/news/knicks-can-use-stretch-provision-on-anthony-if-unable-to-find-trade/236636236

Re: If Carmelo gets stretched?
« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2017, 04:43:42 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2017, 05:03:31 PM »

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I'd love to add him, but he's not gonna take a pay cut to come here. If he takes a paycut he will become a cavalier

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« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2017, 05:17:35 PM »

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I'd love to add him, but he's not gonna take a pay cut to come here. If he takes a paycut he will become a cavalier

The Knicks will be paying him. He'd be our starting power forward, probably would start for the CAVS.

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« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2017, 05:39:32 PM »

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I'd love to add him, but he's not gonna take a pay cut to come here. If he takes a paycut he will become a cavalier

The Knicks will be paying him. He'd be our starting power forward, probably would start for the CAVS.
ah, I did not realize that the stretch provision worked that way. Still dont see him picking us over Cle/LA

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« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2017, 05:50:47 PM »

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 I thought you meant stretched in height like to 7 feet. He could be the perfect center.

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If Carmelo gets stretched (which won't happen) he 'll sign with the Cavs to play alongside LeBron.

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My answer is no.

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 I thought you meant stretched in height like to 7 feet. He could be the perfect center.




 Nobody things we can stretch the spine four inches?

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My answer is no.

That's the way I'm leaning. He's a ball-stopping volume scorer and doesn't play defense. He plays like he's a team's best player, when he's best suited to be a sixth man at this point. Even for nothing, I'd probably pass.
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Serious question: is Melo a positive player?

My answer is no.

That's the way I'm leaning. He's a ball-stopping volume scorer and doesn't play defense. He plays like he's a team's best player, when he's best suited to be a sixth man at this point. Even for nothing, I'd probably pass.
He has arguably been his team's best player every single season of his entire career. He can create his own shot and this Celtics team would be the most talented team he has ever played on. You dont sign him (and he doesnt come here for that matter) unless he buys into the system. I think he would.

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Serious question: is Melo a positive player?

My answer is no.

That's the way I'm leaning. He's a ball-stopping volume scorer and doesn't play defense. He plays like he's a team's best player, when he's best suited to be a sixth man at this point. Even for nothing, I'd probably pass.
He has arguably been his team's best player every single season of his entire career. He can create his own shot and this Celtics team would be the most talented team he has ever played on. You dont sign him (and he doesnt come here for that matter) unless he buys into the system. I think he would.

See, I think it's a nice idea if he buys into the system, but I don't see that happening. I know people like to assume we could get him to function like Team USA Melo, but on Team USA he's deferring to the likes of Kevin Durant. Do you really think Melo respects IT enough to realize that IT runs circle around him? I'd like to see Melo in Cleveland, to see if he really is able to neglect his ego and put winning first. I don't think that's happening in Boston.
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Serious question: is Melo a positive player?

My answer is no.

That's the way I'm leaning. He's a ball-stopping volume scorer and doesn't play defense. He plays like he's a team's best player, when he's best suited to be a sixth man at this point. Even for nothing, I'd probably pass.
He has arguably been his team's best player every single season of his entire career. He can create his own shot and this Celtics team would be the most talented team he has ever played on. You dont sign him (and he doesnt come here for that matter) unless he buys into the system. I think he would.

I think if the opportunity arose, you'd have to take a shot...

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« Reply #13 on: June 16, 2017, 08:35:52 AM »

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I understand the "stretch provision" from the Knicks perspective but what happens if they use that and he signs elsewhere? Does he still get completely paid by the Knicks or does the new team pay a portion of it? How does he signing with a new team affect the Knicks stretch provision? Does it lessen their hit or do they keep the entire hit for 5 years?

It is interesting for sure but if it is used then I could see him obviously signing with Cleveland to help his buddy or maybe he joins the Clippers, Lakers or GSW. I am pretty sure we wouldn't be near the top of his list.

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Serious question: is Melo a positive player?

My answer is no.

That's the way I'm leaning. He's a ball-stopping volume scorer and doesn't play defense. He plays like he's a team's best player, when he's best suited to be a sixth man at this point. Even for nothing, I'd probably pass.
He has arguably been his team's best player every single season of his entire career. He can create his own shot and this Celtics team would be the most talented team he has ever played on. You dont sign him (and he doesnt come here for that matter) unless he buys into the system. I think he would.

See, I think it's a nice idea if he buys into the system, but I don't see that happening. I know people like to assume we could get him to function like Team USA Melo, but on Team USA he's deferring to the likes of Kevin Durant. Do you really think Melo respects IT enough to realize that IT runs circle around him? I'd like to see Melo in Cleveland, to see if he really is able to neglect his ego and put winning first. I don't think that's happening in Boston.
Melo isn't exactly a ball stopper.  His career AST% is 16.2.  Last year only 4 Celtics eclipsed that and one of them was Jackson (the others were Thomas, Horford, and Smart).  Bradley's career best was his rookie year at 11.9.  Crowder just set his career high at 10.1.  Just because someone takes a lot of shots, it doesn't mean that someone is a ball stopper.  Anthony has always shown the ability to play within a system and pass the ball.  He mostly is on a team that needs his scoring, so he tends to score a lot.
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