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Re: Markelle Fultz and Michael Jordan
« Reply #15 on: June 10, 2017, 12:14:14 PM »

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Jordan was a winner at almost every level, I am not sure about high school.  Other than they are close in height and weight, what are you getting at?

Fultz had a  losing record in college.  Jordan won a championship and in fact, hit a game winner.
Not saying they are comparable but put jordon in that team and he weren't be in the tournament either

No kidding.  Jordan's college championship team had James Worthy and Sam Perkins and was coached by Dean Smith.

Did Jordan win the championship as a freshman? Was he one and done? Just dont think you can compare their college careers.

True but did Fultz have James Worthy and Sam Perkins on his team?

no..but who did Dwade, Durant have on their college teams?

If Fultz is a true transcendent type of player... he would carry a team to a better record than 9-22 (ending the season losing 10 plus games)

You put Towns or Davis on that Washington team and I bet they win more than 9 games

Some of the skills/physical tools Fultz has is undeniable/natural talent.  But he still has ways to go , to "grow up". 

KG Living Legend no way you are comparing Fultz to Jordan are you?? 
You must really want Fultz to be the next Celtics savior... for your sake i hope its true

Re: Markelle Fultz and Michael Jordan
« Reply #16 on: June 10, 2017, 12:31:37 PM »

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Jordan was a winner at almost every level, I am not sure about high school.  Other than they are close in height and weight, what are you getting at?

Fultz had a  losing record in college.  Jordan won a championship and in fact, hit a game winner.
Not saying they are comparable but put jordon in that team and he weren't be in the tournament either

No kidding.  Jordan's college championship team had James Worthy and Sam Perkins and was coached by Dean Smith.

Did Jordan win the championship as a freshman? Was he one and done? Just dont think you can compare their college careers.

True but did Fultz have James Worthy and Sam Perkins on his team?

no..but who did Dwade, Durant have on their college teams?

If Fultz is a true transcendent type of player... he would carry a team to a better record than 9-22 (ending the season losing 10 plus games)

You put Towns or Davis on that Washington team and I bet they win more than 9 games

Some of the skills/physical tools Fultz has is undeniable/natural talent.  But he still has ways to go , to "grow up". 

KG Living Legend no way you are comparing Fultz to Jordan are you?? 
You must really want Fultz to be the next Celtics savior... for your sake i hope its true



 I said in the opener, that MJ is the greatest ever. All I wanted to point out is Fultz has a chance to be special based on his size and skill.

 As said before. He didn't play with another teamate ranked in the top 60 In College hoops.

 You know how basketball works. One doesn't get it done. Two you can win a few. Three causes teams to Flee, (Cavs) Four and your kicking down the door, (Warriors)
 

Re: Markelle Fultz and Michael Jordan
« Reply #17 on: June 10, 2017, 01:10:59 PM »

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Jordan was a winner at almost every level, I am not sure about high school.  Other than they are close in height and weight, what are you getting at?

Fultz had a  losing record in college.  Jordan won a championship and in fact, hit a game winner.
Not saying they are comparable but put jordon in that team and he weren't be in the tournament either

No kidding.  Jordan's college championship team had James Worthy and Sam Perkins and was coached by Dean Smith.

Did Jordan win the championship as a freshman? Was he one and done? Just dont think you can compare their college careers.

True but did Fultz have James Worthy and Sam Perkins on his team?

no..but who did Dwade, Durant have on their college teams?

If Fultz is a true transcendent type of player... he would carry a team to a better record than 9-22 (ending the season losing 10 plus games)

You put Towns or Davis on that Washington team and I bet they win more than 9 games

Some of the skills/physical tools Fultz has is undeniable/natural talent.  But he still has ways to go , to "grow up". 

KG Living Legend no way you are comparing Fultz to Jordan are you?? 
You must really want Fultz to be the next Celtics savior... for your sake i hope its true



 I said in the opener, that MJ is the greatest ever. All I wanted to point out is Fultz has a chance to be special based on his size and skill.

 As said before. He didn't play with another teamate ranked in the top 60 In College hoops.

You know how basketball works. One doesn't get it done. Two you can win a few. Three causes teams to Flee, (Cavs) Four and your kicking down the door, (Warriors)

I would expand.

2 stars era
1989.-2002.
2 Thomas/Dumars
6 Jordan/Pippen
3 Shaq/Kobe
1 Olajuwon/Drexler
1 Duncan/Robinson
Exception: Hakeem 1994. The dream.

3 stars era
2003.-2016.
3 Duncan/Parker/Ginobili
1 KG/Pierce/Allen
2 Kobe/Gasol/Odom
2 Lebron/Wade/Bosh
1 Duncan/Parker/Leonard
1 Curry/Klay/Green
1 Lebron/Irving/Love

Exception: Miami going twice against Dallas. Wade/Shaq in 2006 and Dirk 2011. The most valuable championship for any great player of this era!
And also Detroit 2004 team. I could make a solid case they had a big 3 in Billups, Hamilton, Wallace. All were allstars, however it is not universaly agreed.

4 stars era
2017-?
1 Durant/Curry/Thompson/Green
...
"The joy of the balling under the rims."

Re: Markelle Fultz and Michael Jordan
« Reply #18 on: June 10, 2017, 01:17:19 PM »

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Fultz not as athletic as Jordan. But Jordan not as good a ball handler or passer. Really difficult to compare their games. I will say this: they both have ability to stretch and finish in traffic due to big hands and nice reach.

Obviously Fultz does not seem to have the competitive chip in his shoulder like MJ. But who does?

Re: Markelle Fultz and Michael Jordan
« Reply #19 on: June 10, 2017, 01:22:18 PM »

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Great post KG.

Fultz's measurables are comparable to Jordan Wade and thy aren't too far off from Kobe.

14 rings between the 3 of those guys.

Fultz might not be a superstar but he won't fail because of his size

Re: Markelle Fultz and Michael Jordan
« Reply #20 on: June 10, 2017, 01:22:43 PM »

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Last 3 times off the top of my head a player was compared to MJ was.

DeShawn Stevenson
Harold Minor
Isaiah Rider

Don't curse Fultz!!!
ok fine

Re: Markelle Fultz and Michael Jordan
« Reply #21 on: June 10, 2017, 01:28:05 PM »

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Jordan was a winner at almost every level, I am not sure about high school.  Other than they are close in height and weight, what are you getting at?

Fultz had a  losing record in college.  Jordan won a championship and in fact, hit a game winner.
Not saying they are comparable but put jordon in that team and he weren't be in the tournament either

No kidding.  Jordan's college championship team had James Worthy and Sam Perkins and was coached by Dean Smith.

Did Jordan win the championship as a freshman? Was he one and done? Just dont think you can compare their college careers.

True but did Fultz have James Worthy and Sam Perkins on his team?

no..but who did Dwade, Durant have on their college teams?

If Fultz is a true transcendent type of player... he would carry a team to a better record than 9-22 (ending the season losing 10 plus games)

You put Towns or Davis on that Washington team and I bet they win more than 9 games

Some of the skills/physical tools Fultz has is undeniable/natural talent.  But he still has ways to go , to "grow up". 

KG Living Legend no way you are comparing Fultz to Jordan are you?? 
You must really want Fultz to be the next Celtics savior... for your sake i hope its true
Both Durant and Wade had other NBA talent on their teams: Steve Novak and DJ Augustine.

More importantly, read the comparison.

KG doesn't pretend Filtz is Jordan. He just notes they have similar measurable s. A while ago on this board there was some concern that Fultz's size would cap him at all star rather than all time great. This post isn't here to say fultz will be an all time great. Only to say, that his height and length won't be what prevents him from being one.

Re: Markelle Fultz and Michael Jordan
« Reply #22 on: June 10, 2017, 01:37:51 PM »

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Last 3 times off the top of my head a player was compared to MJ was.

DeShawn Stevenson
Harold Minor
Isaiah Rider

Don't curse Fultz!!!

Minor was called baby Jordan. Poor guy...

Re: Markelle Fultz and Michael Jordan
« Reply #23 on: June 10, 2017, 07:38:53 PM »

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Jordan was a winner at almost every level, I am not sure about high school.  Other than they are close in height and weight, what are you getting at?

Fultz had a  losing record in college.  Jordan won a championship and in fact, hit a game winner.
Not saying they are comparable but put jordon in that team and he weren't be in the tournament either

No kidding.  Jordan's college championship team had James Worthy and Sam Perkins and was coached by Dean Smith.

Did Jordan win the championship as a freshman? Was he one and done? Just dont think you can compare their college careers.

True but did Fultz have James Worthy and Sam Perkins on his team?

no..but who did Dwade, Durant have on their college teams?

If Fultz is a true transcendent type of player... he would carry a team to a better record than 9-22 (ending the season losing 10 plus games)

You put Towns or Davis on that Washington team and I bet they win more than 9 games

Some of the skills/physical tools Fultz has is undeniable/natural talent.  But he still has ways to go , to "grow up". 

KG Living Legend no way you are comparing Fultz to Jordan are you?? 
You must really want Fultz to be the next Celtics savior... for your sake i hope its true
Both Durant and Wade had other NBA talent on their teams: Steve Novak and DJ Augustine.

More importantly, read the comparison.

KG doesn't pretend Filtz is Jordan. He just notes they have similar measurable s. A while ago on this board there was some concern that Fultz's size would cap him at all star rather than all time great. This post isn't here to say fultz will be an all time great. Only to say, that his height and length won't be what prevents him from being one.



 TP sports. Exactly.

Re: Markelle Fultz and Michael Jordan
« Reply #24 on: June 10, 2017, 10:01:43 PM »

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KG doesn't pretend Filtz is Jordan. He just notes they have similar measurable

All too often it is the immeasurables and intangibles that make people great.   Fultz has some question marks there for sure.  Jordan has them in spades.   Will to win, competitive nature, willingness to play to play D and thriving when games are tight are the kind of stuff I think that makes a great player.  Not just a similar weight and height.

Re: Markelle Fultz and Michael Jordan
« Reply #25 on: June 10, 2017, 10:04:52 PM »

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KG doesn't pretend Filtz is Jordan. He just notes they have similar measurable

All too often it is the immeasurables and intangibles that make people great.   Fultz has some question marks there for sure.  Jordan has them in spades.   Will to win, competitive nature, willingness to play to play D and thriving when games are tight are the kind of stuff I think that makes a great player.  Not just a similar weight and height.
Im not sure that anyone disagrees with that...

Re: Markelle Fultz and Michael Jordan
« Reply #26 on: June 10, 2017, 10:15:35 PM »

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Jordan was a winner at almost every level, I am not sure about high school.  Other than they are close in height and weight, what are you getting at?

Fultz had a  losing record in college.  Jordan won a championship and in fact, hit a game winner.
Not saying they are comparable but put jordon in that team and he weren't be in the tournament either

No kidding.  Jordan's college championship team had James Worthy and Sam Perkins and was coached by Dean Smith.

Did Jordan win the championship as a freshman? Was he one and done? Just dont think you can compare their college careers.

True but did Fultz have James Worthy and Sam Perkins on his team?

no..but who did Dwade, Durant have on their college teams?

If Fultz is a true transcendent type of player... he would carry a team to a better record than 9-22 (ending the season losing 10 plus games)

You put Towns or Davis on that Washington team and I bet they win more than 9 games

Some of the skills/physical tools Fultz has is undeniable/natural talent.  But he still has ways to go , to "grow up". 

KG Living Legend no way you are comparing Fultz to Jordan are you?? 
You must really want Fultz to be the next Celtics savior... for your sake i hope its true
Both Durant and Wade had other NBA talent on their teams: Steve Novak and DJ Augustine.

More importantly, read the comparison.

KG doesn't pretend Filtz is Jordan. He just notes they have similar measurable s. A while ago on this board there was some concern that Fultz's size would cap him at all star rather than all time great. This post isn't here to say fultz will be an all time great. Only to say, that his height and length won't be what prevents him from being one.


Fultz also sat the last 6(?) games.  So that 10 game losing streak is not the best example. You also look at the roster, not one of them are prospects in the next two drafts.

I get KG's comparison, meaning size, which was some peoples concerns. Some people are saying he's going to be more of a two then a PG. He just get's labeled a PG most likely in highshcool he was the best ball handler, so he's the PG. It carried into College. Harden is the primary ball handler, but I wouldn't say he's a PG. Pippen often brought the ball up, stuck Armstrong in the corner.

But I also get concerns of going against hire talent. He played for a smaller school, and from some scouting videos he some times got a bulk of his points late in games, when they were down and playing against the bench. Not sure if this is true, could be smack from some one who doesn't care for him. But DA and Stevens are the two guys who got up and close and have done the most research on the kid. Hopefully they know best. 

Re: Markelle Fultz and Michael Jordan
« Reply #27 on: June 10, 2017, 11:11:14 PM »

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Jordan was a winner at almost every level, I am not sure about high school.  Other than they are close in height and weight, what are you getting at?

Fultz had a  losing record in college.  Jordan won a championship and in fact, hit a game winner.
Not saying they are comparable but put jordon in that team and he weren't be in the tournament either

No kidding.  Jordan's college championship team had James Worthy and Sam Perkins and was coached by Dean Smith.

Did Jordan win the championship as a freshman? Was he one and done? Just dont think you can compare their college careers.

True but did Fultz have James Worthy and Sam Perkins on his team?

no..but who did Dwade, Durant have on their college teams?

If Fultz is a true transcendent type of player... he would carry a team to a better record than 9-22 (ending the season losing 10 plus games)

You put Towns or Davis on that Washington team and I bet they win more than 9 games

Some of the skills/physical tools Fultz has is undeniable/natural talent.  But he still has ways to go , to "grow up". 

KG Living Legend no way you are comparing Fultz to Jordan are
you?? 
You must really want Fultz to be the next Celtics savior... for your sake i hope its true

Yes because they played two Biggs and constantly tried to post them up, resulting in the lane being clogged all the time.  Towns and Davis are Biggs and they are dominant post players, so the Washington offence was tailor made for their skill set.  Unfortunately for Washington their Biggs were really really bad.  Analyst that broke down the Xs & 0s said that it is amazing that Fultz was able to put up the numbers he did in that system.

Re: Markelle Fultz and Michael Jordan
« Reply #28 on: June 11, 2017, 07:21:21 AM »

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Fultz has never lost a single NBA game! Jordan can't say that. GOAT.

Re: Markelle Fultz and Michael Jordan
« Reply #29 on: June 11, 2017, 07:49:43 AM »

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Fultz has never lost a single NBA game! Jordan can't say that. GOAT.

I think his subpar college record more than makes up for this....