Avery Bradley-What is his worth?

[ThaPreacher]

I'm sure that somewhere this has been posted.
Moving forward, its obvious that there will be some changes. Ainge needs to decide on the glut of guards with Fultz likely being drafted.
While I believe, that Bradley/Crowder  or Smart/Crowder may be dealt at some point, in a bigger move if Hayward is signed.


I'm curious what Celtic Bloggers think of Avery Bradley's worth in this league?

[SHAQATTACK]

i d take Noel or Id rather pay Noel ...keep Fultz and IT ....

[Granath]

I'm sure that somewhere this has been posted.
Moving forward, its obvious that there will be some changes. Ainge needs to decide on the glut of guards with Fultz likely being drafted.
While I believe, that Bradley/Crowder  or Smart/Crowder may be dealt at some point, in a bigger move if Hayward is signed.


I'm curious what Celtic Bloggers think of Avery Bradley's worth in this league?

Somewhere around the 12th-14th pick in this draft.

His value is increased because he's so cheap but then depressed because someone is going to have to resign him. But at 26 years old, he's just entering his prime and he's gotten better every year.

[Darío SpanishFan]

He has infinite more value for the franchise that drafted him and has seen him grow into a very good two-way player than for other teams. We have a top defensive backcourt player who helps rebounding a lot and has increased his offensive production up to 16 ppg.

He's got only one year left and will ask for 20 M per year, more or less. So I guess his trade value, like Isaiah's or Smart's, is not very high. A late lottery pick could be accurate. But for me, he's a keeper even if we sign Hayward.

[spikelovetheCelts]

We all know he will get offers from other teams. I am hopeful he will take a little less to stay with celtics. I love his work ethic and persona. I don't want to lose him crowder or smart but one must go. I think we get greater value with either crowder (great contract) or Smart (upside). Plus I would like the last player from the Doc era to get the next ring.

[Big333223]

He's a reliable 3 point shooter and an all NBA level defender who can check 1's and 2's. He's not a creator but he moves great off the ball. For a team that already has a ballhandler he could be very valuable.

[ThaPreacher]

I have to think, that Danny is already on to the Cap Issues if we sign a Marquee free agent-(Haywood) and are going to pay IT.  With Fultz joining an already full-albeit undersized back-court.
Someone must go.

I wonder if Avery Bradley could fetch a lottery pick.  Perhaps its a package, but is he worth
Minnesota pick at 7, a NY pick at 8 or a Sacramento pick at 10?

[RLewis35]

We all know he will get offers from other teams. I am hopeful he will take a little less to stay with celtics. I love his work ethic and persona. I don't want to lose him crowder or smart but one must go. I think we get greater value with either crowder (great contract) or Smart (upside). Plus I would like the last player from the Doc era to get the next ring.

Agreed.  Also - have we seen the best from AB or is the best yet to come?  I feel like he is just coming into his own and gaining that "star" confidence.  That can do wonders --- not saying he becomes a star, but I do think he isnt done blossoming.  I hope he figure out a way to keep him.

[Real World]

Unfortunately AB's situation is one where you probably won't get equal return for the players talent, expressly because of the salary cap and what AB's next contract might look like.  At the very least I'd imagine he's getting Evan Turner money.  Personally I'd peg his next deal at somewhere in between $15-20 million per season.  I just don't think the Celtics would be wise to pay that for a player of AB's limited ability, with their roster and draft composition moving forward.  He's a very good defender, worker, and jump shooter but he's an undersized SG who can't play PG, doesn't dribble well with respect to creating offense, and isn't a gifted passer.  If there were no cap I'd love to keep him, but in the new NBA you can't pay silly money to what amounts to a high end roll player.  Especially a limited and undersized 2 guard.   Thus, if the Celtics could get a pick in the 5-10 range they should take it.    If it's a pick in the teens or later then I'd prefer to hold AB and see what happens during the season, or next off season.  Don't get me wrong I like AB a lot, but the business/FO/roster dynamics of the NBA are what matter here.   My hope is that there is a team out there that really values AB and is willing to trade a good asset for him. 

[Thruthelookingglass]

We all know he will get offers from other teams. I am hopeful he will take a little less to stay with celtics. I love his work ethic and persona. I don't want to lose him crowder or smart but one must go. I think we get greater value with either crowder (great contract) or Smart (upside). Plus I would like the last player from the Doc era to get the next ring.

Absolutely 100% behind this post.  Love AB.  Understand that we may soon be unable to keep all our guards or even give them the playing time and dough their play demands, but still stinks b/c I love cheering for these guys--especially AB for the reasons mentioned, plus the unforgettable 3 that sealed our 1 win against the Cavs.

[Darío SpanishFan]

Unfortunately AB's situation is one where you probably won't get equal return for the players talent, expressly because of the salary cap and what AB's next contract might look like.  At the very least I'd imagine he's getting Evan Turner money. Personally I'd peg his next deal at somewhere in between $15-20 million per season.  I just don't think the Celtics would be wise to pay that for a player of AB's limited ability, with their roster and draft composition moving forward.  He's a very good defender, worker, and jump shooter but he's an undersized SG who can't play PG, doesn't dribble well with respect to creating offense, and isn't a gifted passer.  If there were no cap I'd love to keep him, but in the new NBA you can't pay silly money to what amounts to a high end roll player.  Especially a limited and undersized 2 guard.   Thus, if the Celtics could get a pick in the 5-10 range they should take it.    If it's a pick in the teens or later then I'd prefer to hold AB and see what happens during the season, or next off season.  Don't get me wrong I like AB a lot, but the business/FO/roster dynamics of the NBA are what matter here.   My hope is that there is a team out there that really values AB and is willing to trade a good asset for him.

Would you pay 30 million per to a player with even more limited ability (playing only in the offensive side, while zero defense)?

Because this is the main debate, I believe.

[Ilikesports17]

Even if AB takea a decent sized hometown discount he's not gonna be in the 15-20 mil range.

[mef730]

We all know he will get offers from other teams. I am hopeful he will take a little less to stay with celtics. I love his work ethic and persona. I don't want to lose him crowder or smart but one must go. I think we get greater value with either crowder (great contract) or Smart (upside). Plus I would like the last player from the Doc era to get the next ring.

Absolutely 100% behind this post.  Love AB.  Understand that we may soon be unable to keep all our guards or even give them the playing time and dough their play demands, but still stinks b/c I love cheering for these guys--especially AB for the reasons mentioned, plus the unforgettable 3 that sealed our 1 win against the Cavs.

Do you mean the win from this year:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqkVFXhCPUg

Or last year:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__ljBiuA8RU



Mike

[CELTICSofBOSTON]

I have to think, that Danny is already on to the Cap Issues if we sign a Marquee free agent-(Haywood) and are going to pay IT.  With Fultz joining an already full-albeit undersized back-court.
Someone must go.

I wonder if Avery Bradley could fetch a lottery pick.  Perhaps its a package, but is he worth
Minnesota pick at 7, a NY pick at 8 or a Sacramento pick at 10?

I think we couldve gotten a high pick for Avery if he wasn't expiring. Because he only has a year left on his contract I think his value goes down substantially.  He may get us a late lottery pick though.

[JBcat]

We all know he will get offers from other teams. I am hopeful he will take a little less to stay with celtics. I love his work ethic and persona. I don't want to lose him crowder or smart but one must go. I think we get greater value with either crowder (great contract) or Smart (upside). Plus I would like the last player from the Doc era to get the next ring.

Absolutely 100% behind this post.  Love AB.  Understand that we may soon be unable to keep all our guards or even give them the playing time and dough their play demands, but still stinks b/c I love cheering for these guys--especially AB for the reasons mentioned, plus the unforgettable 3 that sealed our 1 win against the Cavs.

I agree as well, but he could be the one to go in order to create max cap space.  In this type of trade for a future pick to create space ideally you want to trade him to an older team where the pick could be gold in a few years(like the Memphis pick).