Is Rudy Gay/Danilo Gallinari (22M/Year) A Better Investment Than 'Max' Hayward

[Phantom255x]

Obviously the only things that frighten people from Gay and Gallinari are their injury histories.

But when they are on the court, they are LEGIT SCORERS and big upgrades at the 3. Both guys have size too (Gay 6'8", Gallinari 6'10").

Can create shots, capable of making 3s (though not as good as Hayward, I'll admit) and could easily be #2 scorers alongside IT which is what this team absolutely needs. From what I've heard, they are pretty good at defense too (Not elite, but don't hurt you on the defensive end and can use their size to their advantage against other forwards or big guards - similar to Hayward).

I'm just seeking insight into how people feel about this, in case Hayward stays in Utah, and the other upside is doing a deal like this (20-23M/Year) still saves us some cap space for upgrades in other positions, and we keep the Mid-Level exception and possibly 1-2 current Celtics players who are pending FA's.

Whereas if you sign Hayward at the max, you lose KO, Zeller, Amir, Jerebko, Green, Zeller, Rozier (probably), and one of AB/Smart/Crowder, AND you lose the MLE so not much room for upgrades elsewhere. (And Yabusele stays stashed)

What Do You Guys Think?

[wdleehi]

I say no to both.


Gallinari is to much of an injury issue.   If the Celtics were to take on an injury issue, at least go after Blake.



I am a firm believer in the only time Gay helps his team is when he leaves his team.  A stat hanger I don't think has ever made the adjustments needed to be on a true winning team. 

[Roy H.]

Rudy Gay will be 31 on opening night and is coming off a ruptured Achilles.

Gallinari is being discussed in another thread, but he's one of the most fragile guys in the NBA.

No to either. This is what Danny meant when he said we can't settle for lower tier options. We need stars, not retreads.

[Phantom255x]

I say no to both.


Gallinari is to much of an injury issue.   If the Celtics were to take on an injury issue, at least go after Blake.



I am a firm believer in the only time Gay helps his team is when he leaves his team.  A stat hanger I don't think has ever made the adjustments needed to be on a true winning team.

Yeah I'm not super high on Gay, but Gallinari I've been a fan of.

[Phantom255x]

Rudy Gay will be 31 on opening night and is coming off a ruptured Achilles.

Gallinari is being discussed in another thread, but he's one of the most fragile guys in the NBA.

No to either. This is what Danny meant when he said we can't settle for lower tier options. We need stars, not retreads.

Yeah, no question Ainge will be going super hard after Hayward or Griffin.

But this could be an alternate plan in case he misses on both. No max-cap space for a long time after this summer so Ainge may have to spend some of it for moderate upgrades if needed.

Unless he decides to blow it up sometime soon (including IT, Horford, etc.)

[csfansince60s]

Rudy Gay will be 31 on opening night and is coming off a ruptured Achilles.

Gallinari is being discussed in another thread, but he's one of the most fragile guys in the NBA.

No to either. This is what Danny meant when he said we can't settle for lower tier options. We need stars, not retreads.

Agree on both these guys. Injuries waiting to happen.

My choices if we whiff on Hayward are Millsap or Melo.

[kraidstar]

Neither one of those guys is going to win us a title.

It would be suicide to tie up our cap space for years on them, they would likely become untradeable as soon as they were signed.

Not only would we lose flexibility so acquire other max players, but we'd hamper our ability to sign our own young guys to large deals once they develop.

No thanks.

[Phantom255x]

Rudy Gay will be 31 on opening night and is coming off a ruptured Achilles.

Gallinari is being discussed in another thread, but he's one of the most fragile guys in the NBA.

No to either. This is what Danny meant when he said we can't settle for lower tier options. We need stars, not retreads.

Agree on both these guys. Injuries waiting to happen.

My choices if we whiff on Hayward are Millsap or Melo.

I'd really want to take a chance on Griffin over Millsap/Melo.

BUT if we whiff on him too, I'd consider it. Melo's 15% trade kicker makes me hesitate more though.

[mr. dee]

Why the hell would we pay both players with that much? Anything more than 15 mil for this players is a severe overpay. Only foolish front office would pay that much on players that aren't even all-stars.

[Phantom255x]

Why the hell would we pay both players with that much? Anything more than 15 mil for this players is a severe overpay. Only foolish front office would pay that much on players that aren't even all-stars.

I think it's possible they'd take 18M/Year at the highest.

Maybe they just want long "long term security/stability" in their contracts (for about 3 years).

[JBcat]

If we miss out on a max player I'd rather get a true big that would be an upgrade over the Amir/Zeller/JJ combo.  We are dangerously thin up front with those guys probably not coming back.

Off of the top of my head Ibaka, Monroe, and Randolph are out there as free agents.

[rocknrollforyoursoul]

Gay's coming off a serious injury, right? And Gallo has a pretty bad injury history. I don't want the Cs to pay anywhere near $22M/per for either of them.

[BitterJim]

Where is the "No, we need stars, not glorified role players" option? I wouldn't even start either of them over Jae, and I'd rather have an actual big next to Al than another Swing.

If we're gonna get a non-star to play PF for us for over $20 million a year I'd rather have Melo for 2 years

[Moranis]

At 22 million not even close.  At 12 million you have to start thinking about it.

[PhoSita]

Noooooot even close.