zizic-isn't the answer....yet- we have a huge hole upfront

[coffee425]

John Henson.

on a $10mill/year salary... that declines every year.

It's not too ridiculous to offer Rozier, some non brooklyn picks for him.

[OldSchoolDude]

John Henson.

on a $10mill/year salary... that declines every year.

It's not too ridiculous to offer Rozier, some non brooklyn picks for him.

I'd start John Henson at PF with what we have now, but I've been drinking the Zizic cool aide and I think he is a physical beast.  Zizic is better suited for the post presence we've been waiting for.  I also think we passed on trades like the Ibaka deal because Ainge and co. think zizic can be our center.  We don't need him to be an all-star just a rebounding machine who can score in the post. 

[JHTruth]

There's some decent starting bigs that should be available until Zizic is ready. Alex Len, Nene, Greg Monroe, Dedmon..

[Boston Garden Leprechaun]

John Henson.

on a $10mill/year salary... that declines every year.

It's not too ridiculous to offer Rozier, some non brooklyn picks for him.

I'd start John Henson at PF with what we have now, but I've been drinking the Zizic cool aide and I think he is a physical beast.  Zizic is better suited for the post presence we've been waiting for.  I also think we passed on trades like the Ibaka deal because Ainge and co. think zizic can be our center.  We don't need him to be an all-star just a rebounding machine who can score in the post. 

THANK YOU!

[PhoSita]

Zizic can help but as a rookie probably only 10-15 mpg.

The Celts will definitely need to add a starter to replace Amir.

[coffee425]

John Henson.

on a $10mill/year salary... that declines every year.

It's not too ridiculous to offer Rozier, some non brooklyn picks for him.

I'd start John Henson at PF with what we have now, but I've been drinking the Zizic cool aide and I think he is a physical beast.  Zizic is better suited for the post presence we've been waiting for.  I also think we passed on trades like the Ibaka deal because Ainge and co. think zizic can be our center.  We don't need him to be an all-star just a rebounding machine who can score in the post. 

THANK YOU!

Although I love Zizic.. there are 3 things that Henson has over him.
1) He's played in the NBA
2) He's a very consistent shotblocker, and Zizic is barely a block per game against lower competition. Also, John has the length to really bother guards on perimeter defense.
3) His rebounding per 36 are equal to Ante, but the competition isnt.


Ante is significantly cheaper, but i'm not ready to throw him to the wolves in the starting lineup just yet.

[No Nickname]

If he can be a poor man's Marcin Gortat next year I'd be happy.  Maybe play 17mpg, and average 8ppg and 7rpg.

Will we see Zizic in the summer league?

[spikelovetheCelts]

We will sign a center for next year no doubt about that or trade a guard for one. It is our biggest need. KO is first big off the bench type unless you have a D Jordan in the paint.
Once Heyward signs or not then we will go into plan b. We have plenty of picks to trade. I have no doubt one will be found by our GM.

[Future Celtics Owner]

David Blatt needed to win. His role for Zizic was on offensive boards to clean up misses and make as few mistakes as possible.
His teammates didn't yet trust him on pick rolls. Many times he was open in paint and they took contested shots
All season,he took zero 3 point shots but is a good foul shooter,he only took a few mid range and didn't look bad.How he fits today's NBA is depending on his developing a mid range and an occasional three.
If Brook Lopez at his age can and Al Horford did but it will take time.
Is Nerlens Noel, O'Quinn,Brook Lopez available
We desperately need help up front.

TP Rollie
I think you have watched your film and kept up with Zizic. I'm having the same problem, even posted a tp for anybody that can find me video of Zizic hitting a turn-around jumper....nothing.

I think he is a Steven Adam's type player maybe Steven Adam's lite.

Do you have any video showing Zizic using a post move or turn-around/fade away jumper?

[Future Celtics Owner]

We could always trade for Jahlil Okafor!

[OldSchoolDude]

David Blatt needed to win. His role for Zizic was on offensive boards to clean up misses and make as few mistakes as possible.
His teammates didn't yet trust him on pick rolls. Many times he was open in paint and they took contested shots
All season,he took zero 3 point shots but is a good foul shooter,he only took a few mid range and didn't look bad.How he fits today's NBA is depending on his developing a mid range and an occasional three.
If Brook Lopez at his age can and Al Horford did but it will take time.
Is Nerlens Noel, O'Quinn,Brook Lopez available
We desperately need help up front.

TP Rollie
I think you have watched your film and kept up with Zizic. I'm having the same problem, even posted a tp for anybody that can find me video of Zizic hitting a turn-around jumper....nothing.

I think he is a Steven Adam's type player maybe Steven Adam's lite.

Do you have any video showing Zizic using a post move or turn-around/fade away jumper?

Zizic doesn't have moves like the dream shake but he scores in the post at will and with either hand.  He isn't a finesse big, he's old school, big, nasty, and exactly what we need. 

[Future Celtics Owner]

David Blatt needed to win. His role for Zizic was on offensive boards to clean up misses and make as few mistakes as possible.
His teammates didn't yet trust him on pick rolls. Many times he was open in paint and they took contested shots
All season,he took zero 3 point shots but is a good foul shooter,he only took a few mid range and didn't look bad.How he fits today's NBA is depending on his developing a mid range and an occasional three.
If Brook Lopez at his age can and Al Horford did but it will take time.
Is Nerlens Noel, O'Quinn,Brook Lopez available
We desperately need help up front.

TP Rollie
I think you have watched your film and kept up with Zizic. I'm having the same problem, even posted a tp for anybody that can find me video of Zizic hitting a turn-around jumper....nothing.

I think he is a Steven Adam's type player maybe Steven Adam's lite.

Do you have any video showing Zizic using a post move or turn-around/fade away jumper?

Zizic doesn't have moves like the dream shake but he scores in the post at will and with either hand.  He isn't a finesse big, he's old school, big, nasty, and exactly what we need.

I think you misunderstood. I've been watching videos of this guy since we drafted him and still have yet to see him make a turn-around/fade away jumper. I don't care if he scores on drop-steps and baby hooks....that is to be expected.

[ThePaintedArea]

David Blatt needed to win. His role for Zizic was on offensive boards to clean up misses and make as few mistakes as possible.

His teammates didn't yet trust him on pick rolls. Many times he was open in paint and they took contested shots

All season,he took zero 3 point shots but is a good foul shooter,he only took a few mid range and didn't look bad.How he fits today's NBA is depending on his developing a mid range and an occasional three.

1) The development of his midrange was definitely a pleasant surprise - I had my doubts, and the form looks good.  This and other signs of growth point to: that he's a worker.

2) How he fits today's Boston Celtics is a more complex issue. Consider:

a) Boston wants to run offense through its bigs, something Ante has not shown any of so far; they're opening up the paint with their "5-out" lineups, so it would boost his stock a lot if he could either make a three or make a play with the ball.

b) He's not up to guarding NBA players on the perimeter - not yet, anyway (but don't hold your breath). This is an issue that needs to be addressed next season with the Celtics. Olynyk is better than Horford, but the need for adding a big with good lateral movement is urgent.  Millsap is the obvious answer; but better defensive rebounding is another urgent need, and that's not a particular strength of his. If you pair Zizic with Horford, you're going to get hurt at the three-point line on defense.

Is Nerlens Noel, O'Quinn,Brook Lopez available

I don't think that you solve anything with any of those three - or at least you upgrade in some area and downgrade in another. Lopez, for instance, has never been a good defensive rebounder - and last season his already marginal number fell off a cliff. You downgrade your defense as well with him... I could go on.

We desperately need help up front.

Desperate? Well, the Boston Celtics did make the Conference Finals... just sayin...  But you have a point.  How I'd say it is: "What would take the C's to the next level?"  Adding a big who can: create shots, defensive rebound, and guard on the perimeter would do the trick. 

Boston is strong on the wings already - does it make sense to trade away Crowder or Brown to accommodate Butler or Hayward? You address the shot-creation without addressing the other stuff, and in that scenario you'd have to divest yourself or demote a couple of excellent starter-level players.

[td450]

The final answer is the 2018 Brooklyn pick (or someone we trade it for). Until then, whoever we have available will have to do. Zizic will likely get a chance.

[Celtics4ever]

I think Zizic will add some hustle and presence to the front line but I do not think the kid is a world beater by any stretch.  He should contribute, I would love to be wrong on this one though.