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So when did switching become the vogue thing?
« on: May 18, 2017, 10:00:05 AM »

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Not just the Celts, but seems like a lot of teams are happy to just switch with 15 seconds on the clock and the big man on skates.  What happened to hedging and recovering or going under screens?  I know that's not easy either but man, getting sick of this strategy.
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Re: So when did switching because the vogue thing?
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It's the best defense against illegal screens, which happen almost every possession at this point.

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Not just the Celts, but seems like a lot of teams are happy to just switch with 15 seconds on the clock and the big man on skates.  What happened to hedging and recovering or going under screens?  I know that's not easy either but man, getting sick of this strategy.

Lack of effort

If celts played the kind of D they played against the wizards in game 7...game would have been much closer

Re: So when did switching because the vogue thing?
« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2017, 10:20:35 AM »

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I am not a fan of switching. I wish the C's would ice picks more.
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Re: So when did switching become the vogue thing?
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Since teams stopped running real centers.
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Re: So when did switching because the vogue thing?
« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2017, 10:49:24 AM »

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It's the best defense against illegal screens, which happen almost every possession at this point.

Not when Kelly is switching to Lebron.

I'd rather take my chances with a trap or preferably a 2-3 zone.
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It's the best defense against illegal screens, which happen almost every possession at this point.

Not when Kelly is switching to Lebron.

I'd rather take my chances with a trap or preferably a 2-3 zone.

heh that plays into my strategy that we cannot afford to double lebrob and he will score but let's make him score 70 to beat us and try to lock down others as much as we can. no way lebron scores that from outside. he will go cold while others could be hot. make him score all the points. but from outside. 2-3 zone here we go! because lebron will score 100 if we give him layups all game. may have to play off but so be it.
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It's the best defense against illegal screens, which happen almost every possession at this point.

Not when Kelly is switching to Lebron.

I'd rather take my chances with a trap or preferably a 2-3 zone.

heh that plays into my strategy that we cannot afford to double lebrob and he will score but let's make him score 70 to beat us and try to lock down others as much as we can. no way lebron scores that from outside. he will go cold while others could be hot. make him score all the points. but from outside. 2-3 zone here we go! because lebron will score 100 if we give him layups all game. may have to play off but so be it.

I agree. Let him shoot jumpers. If he's hot, you lose...if he's not, you have a chance.

The 2-3 zone also keeps bigs in the paint to block out their rebounders.
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It's the best defense against illegal screens, which happen almost every possession at this point.

Not when Kelly is switching to Lebron.

I'd rather take my chances with a trap or preferably a 2-3 zone.

heh that plays into my strategy that we cannot afford to double lebrob and he will score but let's make him score 70 to beat us and try to lock down others as much as we can. no way lebron scores that from outside. he will go cold while others could be hot. make him score all the points. but from outside. 2-3 zone here we go! because lebron will score 100 if we give him layups all game. may have to play off but so be it.

I agree. Let him shoot jumpers. If he's hot, you lose...if he's not, you have a chance.

The 2-3 zone also keeps bigs in the paint to block out their rebounders.

yep, so true. 2-3 zone allows you to block out and rebound whilst hampering any postgame the opponent has down low.makes u beat them with outside Jays. right up our alley with lebron. worth a try!
LET'S GO CELTICS!

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It's the best defense against illegal screens, which happen almost every possession at this point.

Not when Kelly is switching to Lebron.

I'd rather take my chances with a trap or preferably a 2-3 zone.

heh that plays into my strategy that we cannot afford to double lebrob and he will score but let's make him score 70 to beat us and try to lock down others as much as we can. no way lebron scores that from outside. he will go cold while others could be hot. make him score all the points. but from outside. 2-3 zone here we go! because lebron will score 100 if we give him layups all game. may have to play off but so be it.

I agree. Let him shoot jumpers. If he's hot, you lose...if he's not, you have a chance.

The 2-3 zone also keeps bigs in the paint to block out their rebounders.

yep, so true. 2-3 zone allows you to block out and rebound whilst hampering any postgame the opponent has down low.makes u beat them with outside Jays. right up our alley with lebron. worth a try!

What I am a little confuse about is how a 2-3 zone is played when the refs can call defensive 3 seconds....that rule makes playing zone difficult

Re: So when did switching become the vogue thing?
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It's the best defense against illegal screens, which happen almost every possession at this point.

Not when Kelly is switching to Lebron.

I'd rather take my chances with a trap or preferably a 2-3 zone.

heh that plays into my strategy that we cannot afford to double lebrob and he will score but let's make him score 70 to beat us and try to lock down others as much as we can. no way lebron scores that from outside. he will go cold while others could be hot. make him score all the points. but from outside. 2-3 zone here we go! because lebron will score 100 if we give him layups all game. may have to play off but so be it.

I agree. Let him shoot jumpers. If he's hot, you lose...if he's not, you have a chance.

The 2-3 zone also keeps bigs in the paint to block out their rebounders.

yep, so true. 2-3 zone allows you to block out and rebound whilst hampering any postgame the opponent has down low.makes u beat them with outside Jays. right up our alley with lebron. worth a try!

Except for Lebron and Tristan Thompson, the Cavs team is full of shooters. Love, Kyrie and JR Smith can obliterate you from the outside. As well as their bench like Frye, Deron, Korver, etc.
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It's the best defense against illegal screens, which happen almost every possession at this point.

Not when Kelly is switching to Lebron.

I'd rather take my chances with a trap or preferably a 2-3 zone.

heh that plays into my strategy that we cannot afford to double lebrob and he will score but let's make him score 70 to beat us and try to lock down others as much as we can. no way lebron scores that from outside. he will go cold while others could be hot. make him score all the points. but from outside. 2-3 zone here we go! because lebron will score 100 if we give him layups all game. may have to play off but so be it.

I agree. Let him shoot jumpers. If he's hot, you lose...if he's not, you have a chance.

The 2-3 zone also keeps bigs in the paint to block out their rebounders.

yep, so true. 2-3 zone allows you to block out and rebound whilst hampering any postgame the opponent has down low.makes u beat them with outside Jays. right up our alley with lebron. worth a try!

What I am a little confuse about is how a 2-3 zone is played when the refs can call defensive 3 seconds....that rule makes playing zone difficult

maybe i am thinking old days college. only NBA has such stupid rules. good points. maybe play as close to paint as possible then? box and 1?
LET'S GO CELTICS!

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It's the best defense against illegal screens, which happen almost every possession at this point.

Not when Kelly is switching to Lebron.

I'd rather take my chances with a trap or preferably a 2-3 zone.

heh that plays into my strategy that we cannot afford to double lebrob and he will score but let's make him score 70 to beat us and try to lock down others as much as we can. no way lebron scores that from outside. he will go cold while others could be hot. make him score all the points. but from outside. 2-3 zone here we go! because lebron will score 100 if we give him layups all game. may have to play off but so be it.

I agree. Let him shoot jumpers. If he's hot, you lose...if he's not, you have a chance.

The 2-3 zone also keeps bigs in the paint to block out their rebounders.

yep, so true. 2-3 zone allows you to block out and rebound whilst hampering any postgame the opponent has down low.makes u beat them with outside Jays. right up our alley with lebron. worth a try!
The Cavs have done a nice job of putting shooters and legit go-to scorers around Lebron. JR did almost nothing in game 1 and Shumpert showed flashed but I'd put IT on them and hope AB can slow down Irving. But we have no 4 that has the lateral speed to defend out for Love, switch 4 lebron, and also have the size(6'10'' maybe) to help on the boards and defense.

What really sucks is that Amir is basically a shell of a shell of his former self. If we had a better option at the 4 it would help this team at least give the Cavs a decent series.Amir from a few years ago could have been a poor mans Ibaka, which would be very helpful in this series.

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What I am a little confuse about is how a 2-3 zone is played when the refs can call defensive 3 seconds....that rule makes playing zone difficult
The inside guy camps on the edge of the paint when he's not guarding anyone. He's expected to have at least basic mobility.
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