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Re: Was there a clock malfunction in the closing seconds?
« Reply #45 on: May 14, 2017, 09:44:28 AM »

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Apparently the NBA said that's not a reviewable call? I always thought the refs had the discretion to use replay to adjust the clock, but if they can't, why not?

Dumb rule, if true.


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Re: Was there a clock malfunction in the closing seconds? (NBA confirms)
« Reply #46 on: May 14, 2017, 10:26:11 AM »

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Apparently the NBA said that's not a reviewable call? I always thought the refs had the discretion to use replay to adjust the clock, but if they can't, why not?

The same way the saw the ball clearly went off Bogdan's hand and called it out on Brown after a review in the previous game.   They have an agenda and they stink.

Re: NBA: clock error cost Celtics time on last play
« Reply #47 on: May 14, 2017, 11:04:30 AM »

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These are from Kyle Draper tweets:

NBA admits clock ran an extra second to 1.7 when Olynyk was fouled. Says clock should have been stopped earlier but play not reviewable.


#NBA also says Al Horford got away with an illegal screen at 41.2 seconds and a defensive 3 seconds at 33 seconds left.



EDIT: Sorry. I guess this information was in the original link. TP for OP.

Lol pretty sure Gortat shouldve fouled out several times over due to illegal screen.

I was thinking during the game that you very rarely see the defensive three seconds call any more.
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Re: NBA: clock error cost Celtics time on last play
« Reply #48 on: May 14, 2017, 11:21:50 AM »

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These are from Kyle Draper tweets:

NBA admits clock ran an extra second to 1.7 when Olynyk was fouled. Says clock should have been stopped earlier but play not reviewable.


#NBA also says Al Horford got away with an illegal screen at 41.2 seconds and a defensive 3 seconds at 33 seconds left.



EDIT: Sorry. I guess this information was in the original link. TP for OP.

Lol pretty sure Gortat shouldve fouled out several times over due to illegal screen.

Yes about Gortat. Illegal screens, always has his hands on people and stays in the paint for5-8 seconds and he is NEVER called. Wish we had a Laimbeer or Mahorn type for one game to knock his 7-foot ass on the ground a few times.





Re: Was there a clock malfunction in the closing seconds? (NBA confirms)
« Reply #49 on: May 14, 2017, 12:53:44 PM »

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Meh, referees are awful across the board.  They might've missed a 3 second call on Al, but I can recall instances on both sides of defensive 3 seconds, and offensive players remaining in the paint far too long (almost every time they post up IT in the paint it's far longer than 3 seconds)

It's annoying that the referees regularly miss calls.  I don't mind that they do, because they are human, but it's annoying when there appears to be a clear discrepancy on which side they're missing calls (the amount of missed goal tending calls against the Celtics these playoffs seems criminal to say the least)

We still had a good opportunity to close out the game and IT made a few mental mistakes not expecting the trap across half court, and that's on players.  I can live with the referees missed calls when our own players aren't expecting almost obvious plays like that.

Re: Was there a clock malfunction in the closing seconds? (NBA confirms)
« Reply #50 on: May 14, 2017, 01:05:26 PM »

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Sadly, there wouldn't be a conversation about clock malfunctioning if the C's didn't turn the ball over or played tight defense on the Wizards for the final 2 minutes of the game.

But there is, and the Celtics better get up for Game 7 if they want to extend their run cuz some of these players may be playing their last game at the Garden tomorrow in a green uniform.


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Re: Was there a clock malfunction in the closing seconds? (NBA confirms)
« Reply #51 on: May 14, 2017, 01:23:26 PM »

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Meh, referees are awful across the board.  They might've missed a 3 second call on Al, but I can recall instances on both sides of defensive 3 seconds, and offensive players remaining in the paint far too long (almost every time they post up IT in the paint it's far longer than 3 seconds)

It's annoying that the referees regularly miss calls.  I don't mind that they do, because they are human, but it's annoying when there appears to be a clear discrepancy on which side they're missing calls (the amount of missed goal tending calls against the Celtics these playoffs seems criminal to say the least)

We still had a good opportunity to close out the game and IT made a few mental mistakes not expecting the trap across half court, and that's on players.  I can live with the referees missed calls when our own players aren't expecting almost obvious plays like that.
there is no excuse for failing to review a reviewable play like this.

Re: NBA: clock error cost Celtics time on last play
« Reply #52 on: May 14, 2017, 02:15:20 PM »

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I agree with the Celtics. If you can't change the result then just inform the teams involved and give them the right to release the information to the press or not. Hopefully the 2 minute report is used to judge the competency of refs and helps the NBA to figure out ways to get plays called right. This shouldn't just be someting to assuage angry fans and give them more reason to hate the officials.

I can't stand the league only does the last two minutes of a game for review. The whole game counts. Review each game and release the info. The NFL reviews plays the whole game. A play in the 2nd quarter could mean everything. Give coaches 3 reviews of a play a game and cut timeouts by one. I think thats the smart thing to do.

What I don't understand is that the NBA said the situation wasn't reviewable, but I swear I've seen officials stop a game, plenty of times, just to confirm how much time should be on the clock.
I'm guessing you can't review when a foul was called.  They can review things like when the ball went out of bounds, etc, but probably not a foul.

I think there's a difference, though (or at least, there should be a difference), between looking at a play to review the actual play and looking at video to confirm the correct amount of time on the clock. The former is what I'd call "reviewing a play," the latter not really reviewing anything but just confirming the correct time. I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that I've seen officials do this, numerous times.
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Re: Was there a clock malfunction in the closing seconds?
« Reply #53 on: May 14, 2017, 02:25:32 PM »

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Apparently the NBA said that's not a reviewable call? I always thought the refs had the discretion to use replay to adjust the clock, but if they can't, why not?

Dumb rule, if true.

It's untrue, because the refs clearly adjust both the game clock and shot clock in many different instances in many different games, including Celtics games. And they've used replay to see the exact time numerous times that I can recall.

It was just that nobody noticed it at the time (the refs that is), and this is ultimately a cop-out trying to justify their error. It's pretty ridiculous that they're trying to play it off as that, too, because it so clearly IS a reviewable call that they review and change all the time. The refs were just incompetent and missed the error.
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Re: Was there a clock malfunction in the closing seconds? (NBA confirms)
« Reply #54 on: May 14, 2017, 04:35:46 PM »

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Why can't we get a re-do on the last play? Lol
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Re: Was there a clock malfunction in the closing seconds? (NBA confirms)
« Reply #55 on: May 14, 2017, 04:52:27 PM »

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who cares about this??? really? Celtics lost this game when IT turned the ball over. this was the opportunity to close out the series and we blew it.

the time left on the clock would not have changed the outcome. really stevens should've drawn up a play that got someone running to the free throw line as we only needed a 2.

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« Reply #56 on: May 14, 2017, 08:36:10 PM »

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who cares about this??? really? Celtics lost this game when IT turned the ball over. this was the opportunity to close out the series and we blew it.

the time left on the clock would not have changed the outcome. really stevens should've drawn up a play that got someone running to the free throw line as we only needed a 2.
Thank you. I agree. The first play going after KO in the post out of the set they had was fine. But calling the second play out of the same set with a shot coming towards the sideline for a 25 foot 3 pointer away from contact was awful, IMHO. His second drawn up plsy should have been out of a different set going towards the basket and contact. The second set could have made Washington call for another timeout, being confused that Boston went with two separate set plays rather than one play with different inbound options.

Re: Was there a clock malfunction in the closing seconds? (NBA confirms)
« Reply #57 on: May 14, 2017, 08:48:06 PM »

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who cares about this??? really? Celtics lost this game when IT turned the ball over. this was the opportunity to close out the series and we blew it.

the time left on the clock would not have changed the outcome. really stevens should've drawn up a play that got someone running to the free throw line as we only needed a 2.
If it gets reviewed Stevens gets a free timeout and an extra second. That certainly could have gotten us a much better look.

Re: Was there a clock malfunction in the closing seconds? (NBA confirms)
« Reply #58 on: May 14, 2017, 08:55:32 PM »

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who cares about this??? really? Celtics lost this game when IT turned the ball over. this was the opportunity to close out the series and we blew it.

the time left on the clock would not have changed the outcome. really stevens should've drawn up a play that got someone running to the free throw line as we only needed a 2.

You *literally* don't know this. It's just as fallacious to claim it absolutely wouldn't have changed the outcome as it is to claim it absolutely would have changed the outcome. It could have mattered, and it could have not mattered; we'll never know. But it is absolutely ridiculous that it was not caught by the refs. That's pure incompetence and a lack of awareness. They regularly adjust times in those types of situations, especially at the end of games.

That being said, I think most people agree with you that we lost this game way before that, specifically the two plays with an IT turnover and an IT hero shot, granted he also hit the two shots to put us up before that.
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Re: Was there a clock malfunction in the closing seconds? (NBA confirms)
« Reply #59 on: May 14, 2017, 10:32:47 PM »

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who cares about this??? really? Celtics lost this game when IT turned the ball over. this was the opportunity to close out the series and we blew it.

the time left on the clock would not have changed the outcome. really stevens should've drawn up a play that got someone running to the free throw line as we only needed a 2.

You *literally* don't know this. It's just as fallacious to claim it absolutely wouldn't have changed the outcome as it is to claim it absolutely would have changed the outcome. It could have mattered, and it could have not mattered; we'll never know. But it is absolutely ridiculous that it was not caught by the refs. That's pure incompetence and a lack of awareness. They regularly adjust times in those types of situations, especially at the end of games.

That being said, I think most people agree with you that we lost this game way before that, specifically the two plays with an IT turnover and an IT hero shot, granted he also hit the two shots to put us up before that.

actually I do know. you don't lose games in the final seconds you can only win them in the final seconds. there were plenty of opportunities for this team to put the game away and not have it come down to drama or have it influenced by incompetent officials. they lost this game before that play ever happened.

have you noticed the NBA officials are horrible? is this some new revelation? if you put yourself in position to be screwed over by these guys they will accommodate you.