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Draft hypo... Celtics get #3 pick but Ball or Fultz drop
« on: April 05, 2017, 02:07:02 PM »

Offline SuddenFame

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Hypothetically, Fultz or Ball drop to us at the three spot, but Josh Jackson is gone . . . what does Ainge do?

-- Go Jayson Tatum, or a potential game-changing point guard of the future in Lonzo Ball or Markelle Fultz?

-- Does it matter which point guard is available, and who their parents are??

-- Or does DA throw everyone a curveball and select Fox?

-- Is trading down a few spots an option, in your opinion?  Maybe hoping someone like Isaac or  Monk are still available?

...Discuss! ;)

Re: Draft hypo... Celtics get #3 pick but Ball or Fultz drop
« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2017, 02:15:59 PM »

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Best player not matter what slot. 

Re: Draft hypo... Celtics get #3 pick but Ball or Fultz drop
« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2017, 02:21:34 PM »

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Best player not matter what slot.

What's your best player?

Re: Draft hypo... Celtics get #3 pick but Ball or Fultz drop
« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2017, 02:24:43 PM »

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If its Fultz I take him. If its Ball I take Tatum and dont think twice about it.

Re: Draft hypo... Celtics get #3 pick but Ball or Fultz drop
« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2017, 02:25:14 PM »

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Is this even a question?

If Fultz is there at 3, Danny will take him, just like he will if we get the #1 pick.  I'd assume that Ball is also ahead of Tatum on Danny's draft board, so it's the same case with Ball.  You take BPA with top picks. Period.
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Re: Draft hypo... Celtics get #3 pick but Ball or Fultz drop
« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2017, 02:27:52 PM »

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Is this even a question?

If Fultz is there at 3, Danny will take him, just like he will if we get the #1 pick.  I'd assume that Ball is also ahead of Tatum on Danny's draft board, so it's the same case with Ball.  You take BPA with top picks. Period.
Some people believe that Jackson has leapfrogged Fultz and Ball.
You seem awfully certain about what Danny will or won't do, I think he could be a wild card come draft day.
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Re: Draft hypo... Celtics get #3 pick but Ball or Fultz drop
« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2017, 02:36:02 PM »

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Is this even a question?

If Fultz is there at 3, Danny will take him, just like he will if we get the #1 pick.  I'd assume that Ball is also ahead of Tatum on Danny's draft board, so it's the same case with Ball.  You take BPA with top picks. Period.

And you can prove that Fultz and Ball are BPA?
You seem awfully certain about what Danny will or won't do. . . . I guess he calls you personally and clues you in on every move; Congratz!!
geez, was such a snarky reply really helpful to the conversation? you raise points and questions. please dont demean posters who respond differently than your own thoughts.

perhaps, you could ask for their standards or reasons or evidence that convinced them? that would help expand the conversation better.
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Re: Draft hypo... Celtics get #3 pick but Ball or Fultz drop
« Reply #7 on: April 05, 2017, 02:39:27 PM »

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Is this even a question?

If Fultz is there at 3, Danny will take him, just like he will if we get the #1 pick.  I'd assume that Ball is also ahead of Tatum on Danny's draft board, so it's the same case with Ball.  You take BPA with top picks. Period.

And you can prove that Fultz and Ball are BPA?
You seem awfully certain about what Danny will or won't do. . . . I guess he calls you personally and clues you in on every move; Congratz!!

You are absolutely right. None of us have any idea whatsoever about what Danny will do. Maybe he is a little heavy on the sauce that day and goes against the eye test, the scouting consensus, and what others in the Celtics organization have said. In a world where Jackson is gone, yet somehow Fultz and Ball are available at 3, Danny would have to come from so far  in left field if he picked anyone else.

So yes beyond a shadow of a doubt, I can say Fultz and Ball are atleast prospects 3 and 4 on Danny's board.
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Re: Draft hypo... Celtics get #3 pick but Ball or Fultz drop
« Reply #8 on: April 05, 2017, 02:42:49 PM »

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Hypothetically, Fultz or Ball drop to us at the three spot, but Josh Jackson is gone . . . what does Ainge do?

-- Go Jayson Tatum, or a potential game-changing point guard of the future in Lonzo Ball or Markelle Fultz?

-- Does it matter which point guard is available, and who their parents are??

-- Or does DA throw everyone a curveball and select Fox?

-- Is trading down a few spots an option, in your opinion?  Maybe hoping someone like Isaac or  Monk are still available?

...Discuss! ;)

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Re: Draft hypo... Celtics get #3 pick but Ball or Fultz drop
« Reply #9 on: April 05, 2017, 02:42:50 PM »

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Is this even a question?

If Fultz is there at 3, Danny will take him, just like he will if we get the #1 pick.  I'd assume that Ball is also ahead of Tatum on Danny's draft board, so it's the same case with Ball.  You take BPA with top picks. Period.

And you can prove that Fultz and Ball are BPA?
You seem awfully certain about what Danny will or won't do. . . . I guess he calls you personally and clues you in on every move; Congratz!!
geez, was such a snarky reply really helpful to the conversation? you raise points and questions. please dont demean posters who respond differently than your own thoughts.

perhaps, you could ask for their standards or reasons or evidence that convinced them? that would help expand the conversation better.

Way to get other members to post on his newly started threads...yikes!  :o

EDIT: just saw your apology - cool for you to do it so quickly..

If its Fultz I take him. If its Ball I take Tatum and dont think twice about it.

I agree with this. I'm not really a Ball fan, but I may have no idea what I'm talking about.

Re: Draft hypo... Celtics get #3 pick but Ball or Fultz drop
« Reply #10 on: April 05, 2017, 02:42:57 PM »

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Is this even a question?

If Fultz is there at 3, Danny will take him, just like he will if we get the #1 pick.  I'd assume that Ball is also ahead of Tatum on Danny's draft board, so it's the same case with Ball.  You take BPA with top picks. Period.

And you can prove that Fultz and Ball are BPA?
You seem awfully certain about what Danny will or won't do. . . . I guess he calls you personally and clues you in on every move; Congratz!!
geez, was such a snarky reply really helpful to the conversation? you raise points and questions. please dont demean posters who respond differently than your own thoughts.

perhaps, you could ask for their standards or reasons or evidence that convinced them? that would help expand the conversation better.

Ok, you're right.  I misread the first sentence of his reply, and interpreted it as a shot at my post. Edited

Sorry Bitter Jim! 8)

Re: Draft hypo... Celtics get #3 pick but Ball or Fultz drop
« Reply #11 on: April 05, 2017, 02:50:11 PM »

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NBA Draft.Net (for whatever that's worth) has the Celtics taking Josh Jackson #1

I'm indifferent right now on this, because we don't even know the draft order yet and it's pure speculation, but it is interesting that some mockups are now showing Jackson #1 ???

Re: Draft hypo... Celtics get #3 pick but Ball or Fultz drop
« Reply #12 on: April 05, 2017, 02:58:29 PM »

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Is this even a question?

If Fultz is there at 3, Danny will take him, just like he will if we get the #1 pick.  I'd assume that Ball is also ahead of Tatum on Danny's draft board, so it's the same case with Ball.  You take BPA with top picks. Period.

And you can prove that Fultz and Ball are BPA?
You seem awfully certain about what Danny will or won't do. . . . I guess he calls you personally and clues you in on every move; Congratz!!

You are absolutely right. None of us have any idea whatsoever about what Danny will do. Maybe he is a little heavy on the sauce that day and goes against the eye test, the scouting consensus, and what others in the Celtics organization have said. In a world where Jackson is gone, yet somehow Fultz and Ball are available at 3, Danny would have to come from so far  in left field if he picked anyone else.

So yes beyond a shadow of a doubt, I can say Fultz and Ball are atleast prospects 3 and 4 on Danny's board.

See, I don't get that snarky logic.  Fox destroyed Ball in the tournament but yet people like you are still claiming he's the BPA in the draft.  Not so sure about that.  Fultz is an unknown quantity also.
Though I do believe Fultz is a stud, there is a degree of risk with any of these players and arguments can be made for and against drafting them.
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Re: Draft hypo... Celtics get #3 pick but Ball or Fultz drop
« Reply #13 on: April 05, 2017, 03:01:27 PM »

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Way to get other members to post on his newly started threads...yikes!  :o

EDIT: just saw your apology - cool for you to do it so quickly..

Why is it a bad thing for other members to post in my newly started threads?

Re: Draft hypo... Celtics get #3 pick but Ball or Fultz drop
« Reply #14 on: April 05, 2017, 03:20:13 PM »

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Is this even a question?

If Fultz is there at 3, Danny will take him, just like he will if we get the #1 pick.  I'd assume that Ball is also ahead of Tatum on Danny's draft board, so it's the same case with Ball.  You take BPA with top picks. Period.

And you can prove that Fultz and Ball are BPA?
You seem awfully certain about what Danny will or won't do. . . . I guess he calls you personally and clues you in on every move; Congratz!!

You are absolutely right. None of us have any idea whatsoever about what Danny will do. Maybe he is a little heavy on the sauce that day and goes against the eye test, the scouting consensus, and what others in the Celtics organization have said. In a world where Jackson is gone, yet somehow Fultz and Ball are available at 3, Danny would have to come from so far  in left field if he picked anyone else.

So yes beyond a shadow of a doubt, I can say Fultz and Ball are atleast prospects 3 and 4 on Danny's board.

See, I don't get that snarky logic.  Fox destroyed Ball in the tournament but yet people like you are still claiming he's the BPA in the draft.  Not so sure about that.  Fultz is an unknown quantity also.
Though I do believe Fultz is a stud, there is a degree of risk with any of these players and arguments can be made for and against drafting them.

TP for apologizing bud, just trying to highlight that attitude. The point I am trying to make is that draftniks have these player's relative relations at the top for a reason. I have never been very high on Ball, and actually think Tatum makes a good case for 3rd BPA, but I see why some think Ball could be special. And a prospect like Fox destroying Ball doesn't really change much for me. Fox still can't shoot, and Ball is still a great passer.

Fultz is my BPA not because of any game he had in college, but because of the skills he has shown. Almost every aspect of the game that current top PGs need, he projects to be average or elite at. It is extremely rare to talk about how a guy who isn't even 20 yet doesn't really have a weakness.  It just so happens that a lot of people who get paid to pour over tape tend to agree with that (or I agree with them.)

It isn't going to be some dark horse like Monk or Markannen who fly up and steal a spot at the top.

So I guess the question that is begging to be asked, who do you think would supplant Fultz or Ball in regards to draft position?
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