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Which would you choose

Hayward, Fultz
35 (64.8%)
Blake Griffin, Josh Jackson
19 (35.2%)

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Poll: What roster do you like better next year
« on: April 02, 2017, 07:16:01 AM »

Offline KG Living Legend

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 It's cool to see them both on paper.

 
 Horford Zizic
 Crowder Yabu
 Hayward Brown
 Bradley Fultz
 Thomas Smart

 Horford Zizic
 Blake Yabu
 Crowder Brown
 Bradley Jackson
 Thomas Smart


 It's tough but in the new NBA, I go with Fultz and Hayward. Blake is unreliable as well.

 The first team gets 60 wins next year with a veteran big picked up, any suggestions for a solid big for that Team. TP for trying.

Re: Poll: What roster do you like better next year
« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2017, 08:06:52 AM »

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Blake Griffin + Josh Jackson

The other team is too small. Al Horford needs more help on the boards.

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« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2017, 08:11:51 AM »

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Blake Griffin + Josh Jackson

The other team is too small. Al Horford needs more help on the boards.

I'd rather have the better players. Plus Griffin is a huge risk due to injury. Zizic will help in the boards, and if you tell me that he won't coz he is a rookie, then Jackson wont as well.

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« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2017, 09:09:29 AM »

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Of the two possibilities here I would go with #1. I also would be tempted to start Zizic with Horford except against teams that are exceptionally quick and athletic at the 4 and 5. Bring Crowder off the bench for the most part.

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« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2017, 09:16:30 AM »

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The first team with a veteran minimum player, ideally Bogut/Nenê/Zach Randolph, but I'd settle for bringing back Amir.

As others have said, Crowder would be better off the bench playing 28 minutes as SF/small ball PF. I'd start Horford/Zizic or the veteran proposed, hoping Crowder accepts his role as a Sixth Man of the Year candidate.

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« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2017, 10:47:21 AM »

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Griffin and Jackson.

No way that first team wins 60 games lol. Crowder at PF full time would lead to us getting massacred. It's a lineup we can use against certain opponents only.

Griffin next to Horford would be fantastic, far more aggressive than our current set up, both are amazing passers of the ball. Jackson and Brown would be the wings of the future. I'd worry about our bench unit but by next year Jaylen could well be starting over Bradley so who knows

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« Reply #6 on: April 02, 2017, 11:06:08 AM »

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Griffin and Jackson.

From a pure talent perspective, Id say its probably close to a dead heat, but Jackson-Griffin makes WAY more sense for this team.

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« Reply #7 on: April 02, 2017, 11:36:56 AM »

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The bench in both cases...Yikes. need some vets there. Playing a bunch of rookies and 2nd year players is not a good idea.

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« Reply #8 on: April 02, 2017, 11:38:43 AM »

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Blake Griffin + Josh Jackson

The other team is too small. Al Horford needs more help on the boards.

This.
I am tired of us being the 90 lb weakling.

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« Reply #9 on: April 02, 2017, 11:47:35 AM »

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Either lineup will struggle to reach the win total of this year's team if both benches are awash with 3 rookies, a developing 2nd year player and a 4 year vet who might be the guard on the league with the worst shooting ability.

I would prefer to take Ball over Jackson and take Griffin over Hayward. I would also would send out Rozier, Jackson and Smart for draft picks to teams with cap space thereby being able to keep KO and Bradley. So my lineup would be

Horford/Zizac
Griffin/Olynyk/Yabu
Crowder/Brown
Bradley/Brown/Ball
IT/Ball



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« Reply #10 on: April 02, 2017, 11:51:29 AM »

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- Fultz and Griffin.

- I know Jackson's a good defender, but I don't seem him as a 2 in the NBA. More a 3-4.

- Otherwise, i voted for Griffn lineup over Hayward because I prefer Griffin and i don't see Crowder as a starting PF though he can play it in a small ball lineup.


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« Reply #11 on: April 02, 2017, 11:56:54 AM »

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If I'm 100% sure we can get a quality big with the MLE or something the first one looks a little more attractive, but I went with Griffin and Jackson.  I'd like the team to get a rebound every once in a while.

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« Reply #12 on: April 02, 2017, 12:08:32 PM »

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Has Blake given any hint that he will listen to other teams this summer?

Who does Danny contact first will perhaps be key...Blake or GH.

Also will depend on where we will be in the draft order..because this will determine if Danny is trading the pick for veteran help or not....PG13 or Butler will still be in play.

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« Reply #13 on: April 02, 2017, 12:30:21 PM »

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The benches for either option would be very tough to overcome, way too little experience.

As for the whole Griffin v Hayward debate, Griffin is easily the more obvious fit from a roster construction view.  I am not interested at all in a starting front line of Horford and one of Hayward/Crowder.  It's a fine small-ball lineup or closing lineup, but is not sustainable as a starting unit.

But Hayward, to me, has become the better player.  Hayward is younger, healthier, and just strikes me as a guy who would be more likely to fit in with the team culture.  If Crowder would accept a 6th man role, and we could find someone else (maybe eventually Zizic) to fill the other front court spot next to Horford, I'd prefer Hayward easily.

I can't quite put my finger on the exact reason, but Griffin just seems like an under-achiever.  More focused on his own goals than team goals.  A bit too "Hollywood" for what the Celtics have been building the last few seasons.

All in all, given the pros and cons of both players, I think I'd prefer Hayward.  We'd still have work to do to address the front court, but I'd rather have that problem than go after Griffin, only to see him continually get injured or just not mesh well with the team culture.

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« Reply #14 on: April 02, 2017, 01:12:17 PM »

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The benches for either option would be very tough to overcome, way too little experience.

As for the whole Griffin v Hayward debate, Griffin is easily the more obvious fit from a roster construction view.  I am not interested at all in a starting front line of Horford and one of Hayward/Crowder.  It's a fine small-ball lineup or closing lineup, but is not sustainable as a starting unit.

But Hayward, to me, has become the better player.  Hayward is younger, healthier, and just strikes me as a guy who would be more likely to fit in with the team culture.  If Crowder would accept a 6th man role, and we could find someone else (maybe eventually Zizic) to fill the other front court spot next to Horford, I'd prefer Hayward easily.

I can't quite put my finger on the exact reason, but Griffin just seems like an under-achiever.  More focused on his own goals than team goals.  A bit too "Hollywood" for what the Celtics have been building the last few seasons.

All in all, given the pros and cons of both players, I think I'd prefer Hayward.  We'd still have work to do to address the front court, but I'd rather have that problem than go after Griffin, only to see him continually get injured or just not mesh well with the team culture.



 TP Kg knee, that's how I feel. The Celtics biggest need is another elite ball penetrator, Creator and scorer.

 The first scenario gives us not one but two elite guys to penetrate with. With Thomas, Hayward and Fultz, the offense would be practically unguardable.

 Fultz is also perfect Bradley insurance cause Avery is likely to leave. That team isn't complete but it's one big guy away from bringing in another ring.