The most likely plan spells the end for IT, Crowder, and possibly Smart.

[jambr380]

On a somewhat related note, IT is not eligible for the super-max so not to worry. While IT made the All-NBA team and  will be coming off of his 2nd contract, he is not still with the team that drafted him. That is a major caveat to the rule change since it is about keeping players (All-NBA players) that a team drafted.

So, while IT is likely to get massively overpaid, we don't need to worry about him receiving a $200M+ contract.

[kozlodoev]

On a somewhat related note, IT is not eligible for the super-max so not to worry. While IT made the All-NBA team and  will be coming off of his 2nd contract, he is not still with the team that drafted him. That is a major caveat to the rule change since it is about keeping players (All-NBA players) that a team drafted.

So, while IT is likely to get massively overpaid, we don't need to worry about him receiving a $200M+ contract.

IT's max contract is something along the lines of $178 million over 5 years. This is a structure that will pay him $40(!) million in his age 33 season.

[jambr380]

On a somewhat related note, IT is not eligible for the super-max so not to worry. While IT made the All-NBA team and  will be coming off of his 2nd contract, he is not still with the team that drafted him. That is a major caveat to the rule change since it is about keeping players (All-NBA players) that a team drafted.

So, while IT is likely to get massively overpaid, we don't need to worry about him receiving a $200M+ contract.

IT's max contract is something along the lines of $178 million over 5 years. This is a structure that will pay him $40(!) million in his age 33 season.

True, which is wayyyy too much! I just keep seeing posts casually throwing out the term 'super-max' in regards to IT's next contract and people should know that will not be an issue.

I sure hope we are not the team paying him $178M. Like, $25M for 4 years seems about as high as we should go (which also makes me a bit uncomfortable)...but, as we all know, I am not a GM.

[nickagneta]

On a somewhat related note, IT is not eligible for the super-max so not to worry. While IT made the All-NBA team and  will be coming off of his 2nd contract, he is not still with the team that drafted him. That is a major caveat to the rule change since it is about keeping players (All-NBA players) that a team drafted.

So, while IT is likely to get massively overpaid, we don't need to worry about him receiving a $200M+ contract.

IT's max contract is something along the lines of $178 million over 5 years. This is a structure that will pay him $40(!) million in his age 33 season.

True, which is wayyyy too much! I just keep seeing posts casually throwing out the term 'super-max' in regards to IT's next contract and people should know that will not be an issue.

I sure hope we are not the team paying him $178M. Like, $25M for 4 years seems about as high as we should go (which also makes me a bit uncomfortable)...but, as we all know, I am not a GM.

I would have no problem with a 4 year max, which is the same offer he will get anywhere else. And if he really wants to be a Celtic, he takes it.

[Ilikesports17]

One of the most frustrating side effects of a blow out loss in the playoffs is people coming in here and relentlessly posting that we should trade the entire team for draft picks.

It's just unrealistic.

I began this thread before the playoff started.  Even before that I was post of the growing minority that said we shouldn't max IT.  As far back as last year I was posting that he wasn't in the long term future.  I made this thread to try and show in a clear realistic way that IT's days are numbered. I reposted to it because now it seems that sentiment is picking up steam. 

This is not trading the entire team for draft picks.  It is the natural progression of younger more talented players replacing older players.  I believe we will get Hayward who is much better than Crowder and will play serious minutes.  So where's that leave Crowder?  As a 6'6 pf?   Not likely as Zizic and/or the 2018 pick is going to allow Horford to pay the 4 where he belongs.  Crowder will only be playing spot minutes st the 3/4, come the 2018-2019 season.  If he's not traded before his contact is up he'll most likely walk for nothing.  He's getting paid less then Zeller now, he's going to want to get paid. Also we saw how he reacted to the fans cheering for Hayward back when we played Utah, I imaging he's not going to be all that pleased with backing him up.

Fultz will absolutely replace IT at the point.  IT can start over him all year and make another all star team, but he will not get a super max deal in Boston.  All those who think he'll take a reasonable near max contract for 3 years indeed of a 5 year super max need to understand that he really wants to get paid.  IT makes less then Zeller now. The NBA just said he is a super max player, to offer him less then even the regular max is a serious slap in the face to all that he's done.  A fringe playoff team will offer him the normal max and he'll take it.

I'm also not opposed to keeping Bradley and Smart to come of the bench.  They make a nice back up guard combo, but Rozier and Bradley would be good too. So, one of those three is going to have to go.

good post

I'll second that...good, and accurate post.

Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but its hardly accurate. The supermax is not available to Isaiah Thomas. How people havent figured this out yet is beyond me.

[Boston Garden Leprechaun]

One of the most frustrating side effects of a blow out loss in the playoffs is people coming in here and relentlessly posting that we should trade the entire team for draft picks.

It's just unrealistic.

I began this thread before the playoff started.  Even before that I was post of the growing minority that said we shouldn't max IT.  As far back as last year I was posting that he wasn't in the long term future.  I made this thread to try and show in a clear realistic way that IT's days are numbered. I reposted to it because now it seems that sentiment is picking up steam. 

This is not trading the entire team for draft picks.  It is the natural progression of younger more talented players replacing older players.  I believe we will get Hayward who is much better than Crowder and will play serious minutes.  So where's that leave Crowder?  As a 6'6 pf?   Not likely as Zizic and/or the 2018 pick is going to allow Horford to pay the 4 where he belongs.  Crowder will only be playing spot minutes st the 3/4, come the 2018-2019 season.  If he's not traded before his contact is up he'll most likely walk for nothing.  He's getting paid less then Zeller now, he's going to want to get paid. Also we saw how he reacted to the fans cheering for Hayward back when we played Utah, I imaging he's not going to be all that pleased with backing him up.

Fultz will absolutely replace IT at the point.  IT can start over him all year and make another all star team, but he will not get a super max deal in Boston.  All those who think he'll take a reasonable near max contract for 3 years indeed of a 5 year super max need to understand that he really wants to get paid.  IT makes less then Zeller now. The NBA just said he is a super max player, to offer him less then even the regular max is a serious slap in the face to all that he's done.  A fringe playoff team will offer him the normal max and he'll take it.

I'm also not opposed to keeping Bradley and Smart to come of the bench.  They make a nice back up guard combo, but Rozier and Bradley would be good too. So, one of those three is going to have to go.

good post

I'll second that...good, and accurate post.

Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but its hardly accurate. The supermax is not available to Isaiah Thomas. How people havent figured this out yet is beyond me.

we know that. it is still a good post regardless looking at long term plans