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Re: Rumor: Second Boston workout for Sanders?
« Reply #15 on: March 08, 2017, 06:01:30 PM »

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Re: Rumor: Second Boston workout for Sanders?
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We need a big so bad

Even a one legged dude would help.

Are you saying you want Danny to sign Bogut?

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Re: Rumor: Second Boston workout for Sanders?
« Reply #17 on: March 08, 2017, 06:13:43 PM »

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Heh, posted in the other thread but Keith Smith seems to have refuted this.
https://mobile.twitter.com/KeithSmithNBA/status/839571981628502017
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Despite the new pic floating around of Larry Sanders in a BOS practice jersey, no indications he had a second workout with Celtics recently.

I'm a KO supporter but unfortunately for him he has done nothing this year to prove is that the spot is his. Is Larry Sanders capable of becoming our 3rd to 4th big? Personally I don't see why not.

Ha TP.

By the way, how did this Keith Smith guy blow up all of a sudden? Wasn't he just a barely reliable Reddit guy at one point not too long ago? Isn't this the infamous "Smitty" character? It seems like since a bit before the trade deadline several sports/NBA platforms have picked him up and have been giving him airtime.

He's originally a RealGM guy I believe.  He made up a rumor over the summer about Blake Griffin (and I mean that seriously -- he made it up).  Then Celticsblog hired him as a front page writer, so he gets retweeted by them a lot, and voila! The stamp of officialness!

I saw his tweet through bleacherreport's NBA page didn't know that was the same guy as the Blake Griffin Smitty lol.

I usually use Bleacher Report to outsource my deep Twitter mining. :laugh:


Pretty sure he signed up for scouting school and was giving realgmers updates at summer league this year from stuff he saw/heard etc...

Right, but he either was played for a fool by people he talked to, jumped to real aggressive conclusions, or made things up.  The Blake thing was nonsense from the beginning, and it was obvious nonsense.  The entire thing was premised on the fact Ainge was going to San Diego (which, I guess was a scoop but felt a little bit like stalking).  The rumor said he was going to San Diego to negotiate an extension for Blake, when it was not remotely difficult to learn that Ainge has a daughter and grandchildren in San Diego, and was in fact seeing family on one of the few off weeks on a NBA GM's calendar.  But when Ainge tweeted from San Diego, it was taken as confirmation of the absurd Blake rumor, and then he just helped it snowball from there.  I wasn't completely sure about Smith prior to that, but when he shoveled coal onto the Blake fire he started, when there continued to be NOTHING there (and I assure you with every TP I've earned over the years that there was NOTHING to it -- I did my own sleuthing and I promised my source to say no more), I determined he either made things up or let people make things up for him and parroted them for retweets and follows.

The only rumor I've seen him get right was Larry Sanders' first visit -- and he didn't actually break that.  Someone here on Celticsblog saw it on Sanders Instagram, tweeted it at Smith, who then repackaged the info as his own "Breaking" scoop.

I'm glad he pays money to go to NBA Scout fantasy camp.  I'm frankly jealous as my wife won't let me sign up.  But beyond that?  No, he's a dude who's throws a lot darts at the wall that sometimes have enough of a modicum of truth to them for people to believe there's a dartboard he's aiming at.

Re: Rumor: Second Boston workout for Sanders?
« Reply #18 on: March 08, 2017, 06:16:11 PM »

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I can see the Cs bringing in Sanders for a preseason run at a position for next year, but he isn't coming to the Cs this year. Upwards of 8 teams have tried him out and passed. There has to be good reason why 8 teams all figured he wasn't good enough for the 15th spot on their roster this year.
Not sure why this idea is so surprising to many.

Re: Rumor: Second Boston workout for Sanders?
« Reply #19 on: March 08, 2017, 06:18:22 PM »

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Heh, posted in the other thread but Keith Smith seems to have refuted this.
https://mobile.twitter.com/KeithSmithNBA/status/839571981628502017
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Despite the new pic floating around of Larry Sanders in a BOS practice jersey, no indications he had a second workout with Celtics recently.

I'm a KO supporter but unfortunately for him he has done nothing this year to prove is that the spot is his. Is Larry Sanders capable of becoming our 3rd to 4th big? Personally I don't see why not.

Ha TP.

By the way, how did this Keith Smith guy blow up all of a sudden? Wasn't he just a barely reliable Reddit guy at one point not too long ago? Isn't this the infamous "Smitty" character? It seems like since a bit before the trade deadline several sports/NBA platforms have picked him up and have been giving him airtime.

He's originally a RealGM guy I believe.  He made up a rumor over the summer about Blake Griffin (and I mean that seriously -- he made it up).  Then Celticsblog hired him as a front page writer, so he gets retweeted by them a lot, and voila! The stamp of officialness!

I saw his tweet through bleacherreport's NBA page didn't know that was the same guy as the Blake Griffin Smitty lol.

I usually use Bleacher Report to outsource my deep Twitter mining. :laugh:


Pretty sure he signed up for scouting school and was giving realgmers updates at summer league this year from stuff he saw/heard etc...

Right, but he either was played for a fool by people he talked to, jumped to real aggressive conclusions, or made things up.  The Blake thing was nonsense from the beginning, and it was obvious nonsense.  The entire thing was premised on the fact Ainge was going to San Diego (which, I guess was a scoop but felt a little bit like stalking).  The rumor said he was going to San Diego to negotiate an extension for Blake, when it was not remotely difficult to learn that Ainge has a daughter and grandchildren in San Diego, and was in fact seeing family on one of the few off weeks on a NBA GM's calendar.  But when Ainge tweeted from San Diego, it was taken as confirmation of the absurd Blake rumor, and then he just helped it snowball from there.  I wasn't completely sure about Smith prior to that, but when he shoveled coal onto the Blake fire he started, when there continued to be NOTHING there (and I assure you with every TP I've earned over the years that there was NOTHING to it -- I did my own sleuthing and I promised my source to say no more), I determined he either made things up or let people make things up for him and parroted them for retweets and follows.

The only rumor I've seen him get right was Larry Sanders' first visit -- and he didn't actually break that.  Someone here on Celticsblog saw it on Sanders Instagram, tweeted it at Smith, who then repackaged the info as his own "Breaking" scoop.

I'm glad he pays money to go to NBA Scout fantasy camp.  I'm frankly jealous as my wife won't let me sign up.  But beyond that?  No, he's a dude who's throws a lot darts at the wall that sometimes have enough of a modicum of truth to them for people to believe there's a dartboard he's aiming at.

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Re: Rumor: Second Boston workout for Sanders?
« Reply #20 on: March 08, 2017, 06:44:22 PM »

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I can see the Cs bringing in Sanders for a preseason run at a position for next year, but he isn't coming to the Cs this year. Upwards of 8 teams have tried him out and passed. There has to be good reason why 8 teams all figured he wasn't good enough for the 15th spot on their roster this year.
Not sure why this idea is so surprising to many.

He hasn't played pro basketball in several years, so yeah, its not at all surprising if teams looked at him and thought, this guy needs several months to get back to anywhere near game shape and timing. Thing is, now most of those teams either landed players at the trade deadline or from the buyout pile, and there are slim pickings for the rest of the playoff teams. Well, slim may not be the best phrasing to describe Sullinger, but you get the point.

Still, it has been a month since he started working out for teams, and at some point you have to ask yourself if, after a month of playing and practicing with us, is he a better backup option in an emergency than Mickey? The answer is probably yes. If Horford sprains an ankle in the playoffs who would you want to come in for some key minutes, Mickey or Sanders?
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Re: Rumor: Second Boston workout for Sanders?
« Reply #21 on: March 08, 2017, 06:49:07 PM »

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Heh, posted in the other thread but Keith Smith seems to have refuted this.
https://mobile.twitter.com/KeithSmithNBA/status/839571981628502017
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Despite the new pic floating around of Larry Sanders in a BOS practice jersey, no indications he had a second workout with Celtics recently.

I'm a KO supporter but unfortunately for him he has done nothing this year to prove is that the spot is his. Is Larry Sanders capable of becoming our 3rd to 4th big? Personally I don't see why not.

Ha TP.

By the way, how did this Keith Smith guy blow up all of a sudden? Wasn't he just a barely reliable Reddit guy at one point not too long ago? Isn't this the infamous "Smitty" character? It seems like since a bit before the trade deadline several sports/NBA platforms have picked him up and have been giving him airtime.

He's originally a RealGM guy I believe.  He made up a rumor over the summer about Blake Griffin (and I mean that seriously -- he made it up).  Then Celticsblog hired him as a front page writer, so he gets retweeted by them a lot, and voila! The stamp of officialness!

I saw his tweet through bleacherreport's NBA page didn't know that was the same guy as the Blake Griffin Smitty lol.

I usually use Bleacher Report to outsource my deep Twitter mining. :laugh:


Pretty sure he signed up for scouting school and was giving realgmers updates at summer league this year from stuff he saw/heard etc...

Right, but he either was played for a fool by people he talked to, jumped to real aggressive conclusions, or made things up.  The Blake thing was nonsense from the beginning, and it was obvious nonsense.  The entire thing was premised on the fact Ainge was going to San Diego (which, I guess was a scoop but felt a little bit like stalking).  The rumor said he was going to San Diego to negotiate an extension for Blake, when it was not remotely difficult to learn that Ainge has a daughter and grandchildren in San Diego, and was in fact seeing family on one of the few off weeks on a NBA GM's calendar.  But when Ainge tweeted from San Diego, it was taken as confirmation of the absurd Blake rumor, and then he just helped it snowball from there.  I wasn't completely sure about Smith prior to that, but when he shoveled coal onto the Blake fire he started, when there continued to be NOTHING there (and I assure you with every TP I've earned over the years that there was NOTHING to it -- I did my own sleuthing and I promised my source to say no more), I determined he either made things up or let people make things up for him and parroted them for retweets and follows.

The only rumor I've seen him get right was Larry Sanders' first visit -- and he didn't actually break that.  Someone here on Celticsblog saw it on Sanders Instagram, tweeted it at Smith, who then repackaged the info as his own "Breaking" scoop.

I'm glad he pays money to go to NBA Scout fantasy camp.  I'm frankly jealous as my wife won't let me sign up.  But beyond that?  No, he's a dude who's throws a lot darts at the wall that sometimes have enough of a modicum of truth to them for people to believe there's a dartboard he's aiming at.

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Re: Rumor: Second Boston workout for Sanders?
« Reply #22 on: March 08, 2017, 06:56:58 PM »

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Heh, posted in the other thread but Keith Smith seems to have refuted this.
https://mobile.twitter.com/KeithSmithNBA/status/839571981628502017
Quote
Despite the new pic floating around of Larry Sanders in a BOS practice jersey, no indications he had a second workout with Celtics recently.

I'm a KO supporter but unfortunately for him he has done nothing this year to prove is that the spot is his. Is Larry Sanders capable of becoming our 3rd to 4th big? Personally I don't see why not.

Ha TP.

By the way, how did this Keith Smith guy blow up all of a sudden? Wasn't he just a barely reliable Reddit guy at one point not too long ago? Isn't this the infamous "Smitty" character? It seems like since a bit before the trade deadline several sports/NBA platforms have picked him up and have been giving him airtime.

He's originally a RealGM guy I believe.  He made up a rumor over the summer about Blake Griffin (and I mean that seriously -- he made it up).  Then Celticsblog hired him as a front page writer, so he gets retweeted by them a lot, and voila! The stamp of officialness!

I saw his tweet through bleacherreport's NBA page didn't know that was the same guy as the Blake Griffin Smitty lol.

I usually use Bleacher Report to outsource my deep Twitter mining. :laugh:


Pretty sure he signed up for scouting school and was giving realgmers updates at summer league this year from stuff he saw/heard etc...

Right, but he either was played for a fool by people he talked to, jumped to real aggressive conclusions, or made things up.  The Blake thing was nonsense from the beginning, and it was obvious nonsense.  The entire thing was premised on the fact Ainge was going to San Diego (which, I guess was a scoop but felt a little bit like stalking).  The rumor said he was going to San Diego to negotiate an extension for Blake, when it was not remotely difficult to learn that Ainge has a daughter and grandchildren in San Diego, and was in fact seeing family on one of the few off weeks on a NBA GM's calendar.  But when Ainge tweeted from San Diego, it was taken as confirmation of the absurd Blake rumor, and then he just helped it snowball from there.  I wasn't completely sure about Smith prior to that, but when he shoveled coal onto the Blake fire he started, when there continued to be NOTHING there (and I assure you with every TP I've earned over the years that there was NOTHING to it -- I did my own sleuthing and I promised my source to say no more), I determined he either made things up or let people make things up for him and parroted them for retweets and follows.

The only rumor I've seen him get right was Larry Sanders' first visit -- and he didn't actually break that.  Someone here on Celticsblog saw it on Sanders Instagram, tweeted it at Smith, who then repackaged the info as his own "Breaking" scoop.

I'm glad he pays money to go to NBA Scout fantasy camp.  I'm frankly jealous as my wife won't let me sign up.  But beyond that?  No, he's a dude who's throws a lot darts at the wall that sometimes have enough of a modicum of truth to them for people to believe there's a dartboard he's aiming at.

Haha you said everything.

I just left my thoughts on the 'breaking' stories.
I particularly remember the Larry Sanders saga after someone on here or Twitter happened to see that Sanders tweeted a shamrock or was tweeting about Boston etc..the poster referenced that 10 mins after he tweeted it at Smith, that Smith 'confirmed' the rumor with his sources.

He did later give credit but wansnt till a few people on realGM pointed out the series of events.

He sure is on his hustle lol.
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Re: Rumor: Second Boston workout for Sanders?
« Reply #23 on: March 08, 2017, 07:18:36 PM »

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I can see the Cs bringing in Sanders for a preseason run at a position for next year, but he isn't coming to the Cs this year. Upwards of 8 teams have tried him out and passed. There has to be good reason why 8 teams all figured he wasn't good enough for the 15th spot on their roster this year.
Not sure why this idea is so surprising to many.

He hasn't played pro basketball in several years, so yeah, its not at all surprising if teams looked at him and thought, this guy needs several months to get back to anywhere near game shape and timing. Thing is, now most of those teams either landed players at the trade deadline or from the buyout pile, and there are slim pickings for the rest of the playoff teams. Well, slim may not be the best phrasing to describe Sullinger, but you get the point.

Still, it has been a month since he started working out for teams, and at some point you have to ask yourself if, after a month of playing and practicing with us, is he a better backup option in an emergency than Mickey? The answer is probably yes. If Horford sprains an ankle in the playoffs who would you want to come in for some key minutes, Mickey or Sanders?
Why is the answer probably yes? Are you aware if he is as strong as he was before? Are you aware that he has kept on the muscle mass and weight he had before? Are you aware if his cardiovascular is anywhere near where it should be to play NBA basketball? Are you aware if his skill level is still there or whether it has deteriorated after two years? Do you know that he has been working non-stop since starting tryouts to have advanced him physically enough to warrant a position?

I wouldn't make any assumptions regarding these questions and think he is in any condition to beat out Jordan Mickey for a position on this team.

Re: Rumor: Second Boston workout for Sanders?
« Reply #24 on: March 08, 2017, 07:27:04 PM »

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I can see the Cs bringing in Sanders for a preseason run at a position for next year, but he isn't coming to the Cs this year. Upwards of 8 teams have tried him out and passed. There has to be good reason why 8 teams all figured he wasn't good enough for the 15th spot on their roster this year.
Not sure why this idea is so surprising to many.

He hasn't played pro basketball in several years, so yeah, its not at all surprising if teams looked at him and thought, this guy needs several months to get back to anywhere near game shape and timing. Thing is, now most of those teams either landed players at the trade deadline or from the buyout pile, and there are slim pickings for the rest of the playoff teams. Well, slim may not be the best phrasing to describe Sullinger, but you get the point.

Still, it has been a month since he started working out for teams, and at some point you have to ask yourself if, after a month of playing and practicing with us, is he a better backup option in an emergency than Mickey? The answer is probably yes. If Horford sprains an ankle in the playoffs who would you want to come in for some key minutes, Mickey or Sanders?
Why is the answer probably yes? Are you aware if he is as strong as he was before? Are you aware that he has kept on the muscle mass and weight he had before? Are you aware if his cardiovascular is anywhere near where it should be to play NBA basketball? Are you aware if his skill level is still there or whether it has deteriorated after two years? Do you know that he has been working non-stop since starting tryouts to have advanced him physically enough to warrant a position?

I wouldn't make any assumptions regarding these questions and think he is in any condition to beat out Jordan Mickey for a position on this team.

Well basically, game shape takes a lot of time and work to build up, but talent never goes away, and Mickey doesn't have talent. Also, he would be asked to play about 10 minutes a game at most, you don't need to be in top tier shape for that, just ask Sheed, who funny enough checked himself out of game 7 of the finals against the lakers due to exhaustion.

Re: Rumor: Second Boston workout for Sanders?
« Reply #25 on: March 08, 2017, 07:40:20 PM »

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I can see the Cs bringing in Sanders for a preseason run at a position for next year, but he isn't coming to the Cs this year. Upwards of 8 teams have tried him out and passed. There has to be good reason why 8 teams all figured he wasn't good enough for the 15th spot on their roster this year.
Not sure why this idea is so surprising to many.

He hasn't played pro basketball in several years, so yeah, its not at all surprising if teams looked at him and thought, this guy needs several months to get back to anywhere near game shape and timing. Thing is, now most of those teams either landed players at the trade deadline or from the buyout pile, and there are slim pickings for the rest of the playoff teams. Well, slim may not be the best phrasing to describe Sullinger, but you get the point.

Still, it has been a month since he started working out for teams, and at some point you have to ask yourself if, after a month of playing and practicing with us, is he a better backup option in an emergency than Mickey? The answer is probably yes. If Horford sprains an ankle in the playoffs who would you want to come in for some key minutes, Mickey or Sanders?
Why is the answer probably yes? Are you aware if he is as strong as he was before? Are you aware that he has kept on the muscle mass and weight he had before? Are you aware if his cardiovascular is anywhere near where it should be to play NBA basketball? Are you aware if his skill level is still there or whether it has deteriorated after two years? Do you know that he has been working non-stop since starting tryouts to have advanced him physically enough to warrant a position?

I wouldn't make any assumptions regarding these questions and think he is in any condition to beat out Jordan Mickey for a position on this team.

Well basically, game shape takes a lot of time and work to build up, but talent never goes away, and Mickey doesn't have talent. Also, he would be asked to play about 10 minutes a game at most, you don't need to be in top tier shape for that, just ask Sheed, who funny enough checked himself out of game 7 of the finals against the lakers due to exhaustion.
Yeah, I disagree with everything you said there except getting in NBA game shape takes a lot of time and is sometimes impossible for some people. We will just have to agree to disagree.

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« Reply #26 on: March 08, 2017, 08:14:20 PM »

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Re: Rumor: Second Boston workout for Sanders?
« Reply #27 on: March 08, 2017, 08:22:57 PM »

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If true, 8 teams passed? That's not a good sign at all. I can't believe he was unimpressive enough for 8 teams to say. "I'll pass big fella."

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« Reply #28 on: March 08, 2017, 08:28:16 PM »

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I can see the Cs bringing in Sanders for a preseason run at a position for next year, but he isn't coming to the Cs this year. Upwards of 8 teams have tried him out and passed. There has to be good reason why 8 teams all figured he wasn't good enough for the 15th spot on their roster this year.
Not sure why this idea is so surprising to many.

He hasn't played pro basketball in several years, so yeah, its not at all surprising if teams looked at him and thought, this guy needs several months to get back to anywhere near game shape and timing. Thing is, now most of those teams either landed players at the trade deadline or from the buyout pile, and there are slim pickings for the rest of the playoff teams. Well, slim may not be the best phrasing to describe Sullinger, but you get the point.

Still, it has been a month since he started working out for teams, and at some point you have to ask yourself if, after a month of playing and practicing with us, is he a better backup option in an emergency than Mickey? The answer is probably yes. If Horford sprains an ankle in the playoffs who would you want to come in for some key minutes, Mickey or Sanders?
Why is the answer probably yes? Are you aware if he is as strong as he was before? Are you aware that he has kept on the muscle mass and weight he had before? Are you aware if his cardiovascular is anywhere near where it should be to play NBA basketball? Are you aware if his skill level is still there or whether it has deteriorated after two years? Do you know that he has been working non-stop since starting tryouts to have advanced him physically enough to warrant a position?

I wouldn't make any assumptions regarding these questions and think he is in any condition to beat out Jordan Mickey for a position on this team.

Well basically, game shape takes a lot of time and work to build up, but talent never goes away, and Mickey doesn't have talent. Also, he would be asked to play about 10 minutes a game at most, you don't need to be in top tier shape for that, just ask Sheed, who funny enough checked himself out of game 7 of the finals against the lakers due to exhaustion.
Yeah, I disagree with everything you said there except getting in NBA game shape takes a lot of time and is sometimes impossible for some people. We will just have to agree to disagree.

Fair enough. I may be totally wrong on this, and am glad to hear your perspective.

Re: Rumor: Second Boston workout for Sanders?
« Reply #29 on: March 08, 2017, 08:51:20 PM »

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If true, 8 teams passed? That's not a good sign at all. I can't believe he was unimpressive enough for 8 teams to say. "I'll pass big fella."
There were 3 reports. The first was he had a tryout with the Celtics. Then there was a report he worked out for 6 teams, three of which were almost guaranteed playoff teams and that his agent felt he would get a contract from one of those teams. He didn't. Then there was a report he tried out for Cleveland. Obviously Cleveland went in another direction. 8 teams. No interest.