Who needs Butler or George...we got Jaylen!

[The One]

http://www.masslive.com/celtics/index.ssf/2017/03/jaylen_browns_progress_giving.html

"While the sample size there is small, he has punished guards near the rim, with the footwork, strength and athleticism to cause plenty of mismatches down there. Especially if his shooting stroke continues to progress, it's not hard to envision Brown becoming a matchup nightmare, capable of bursting past slower defenders or bruising smaller ones."

[celticsclay]

http://www.masslive.com/celtics/index.ssf/2017/03/jaylen_browns_progress_giving.html

"While the sample size there is small, he has punished guards near the rim, with the footwork, strength and athleticism to cause plenty of mismatches down there. Especially if his shooting stroke continues to progress, it's not hard to envision Brown becoming a matchup nightmare, capable of bursting past slower defenders or bruising smaller ones."

It is insane how well he has been doing.

[oldtype]

I'm almost a bit concerned about how good his shooting numbers have been lately.  This efficiency is clearly not sustainable and we should temper our expectations and be accepting when he inevitably goes into a shooting slump instead of grumbling about how he's "regressed."

[Chris22]

And soon to be Jaylen and Fultz or Jackson.

[BlackCeltic]

I'm almost a bit concerned about how good his shooting numbers have been lately.  This efficiency is clearly not sustainable and we should temper our expectations and be accepting when he inevitably goes into a shooting slump instead of grumbling about how he's "regressed."

Sounds like youre more concerned with what people think than anything else.

[gift]

I'm almost a bit concerned about how good his shooting numbers have been lately.  This efficiency is clearly not sustainable and we should temper our expectations and be accepting when he inevitably goes into a shooting slump instead of grumbling about how he's "regressed."

His form looks really good and he's not taking bad shots now (which affected his numbers early on). No reason to think he can't keep knocking down open looks like he has been. Sure, he'll have cold streaks from outside.

I'm surprised by his shooting just based on the scouting report of him in college as a non-shooter. But everything I've seen of him this year indicates he can be a plus shooter in the league. What's with his free throws, though?

[oldtype]

I'm almost a bit concerned about how good his shooting numbers have been lately.  This efficiency is clearly not sustainable and we should temper our expectations and be accepting when he inevitably goes into a shooting slump instead of grumbling about how he's "regressed."

His form looks really good and he's not taking bad shots now (which affected his numbers early on). No reason to think he can't keep knocking down open looks like he has been. Sure, he'll have cold streaks from outside.

I'm surprised by his shooting just based on the scouting report of him in college as a non-shooter. But everything I've seen of him this year indicates he can be a plus shooter in the league. What's with his free throws, though?

That's the thing, his free throw numbers are terrible yet he's making a ridiculously high percentage from three.  I accept that he's gotten better at shooting, but you have to assume that one of those numbers is an aberration and I don't think it's the free throws.

[Evantime34]

I'm almost a bit concerned about how good his shooting numbers have been lately.  This efficiency is clearly not sustainable and we should temper our expectations and be accepting when he inevitably goes into a shooting slump instead of grumbling about how he's "regressed."

I'd have to look up the stats to back it up but I believe a lot of the shots he is taking are open. If that is the case I don't expect to see a ton of regression

[86MaxwellSmart]

Agreed...but we could have Both Jaylen and Butler by draft night.

[oldtype]

I'm almost a bit concerned about how good his shooting numbers have been lately.  This efficiency is clearly not sustainable and we should temper our expectations and be accepting when he inevitably goes into a shooting slump instead of grumbling about how he's "regressed."

I'd have to look up the stats to back it up but I believe a lot of the shots he is taking are open. If that is the case I don't expect to see a ton of regression

He's a guy who's supposed to miss wide open threes though (cf. free throws).  I think we have to anticipate at least a little bit of regression.

[Phantom255x]

I'm almost a bit concerned about how good his shooting numbers have been lately.  This efficiency is clearly not sustainable and we should temper our expectations and be accepting when he inevitably goes into a shooting slump instead of grumbling about how he's "regressed."

I'd have to look up the stats to back it up but I believe a lot of the shots he is taking are open. If that is the case I don't expect to see a ton of regression

He's a guy who's supposed to miss wide open threes though (cf. free throws).  I think we have to anticipate at least a little bit of regression.

I mean considering it's his rookie season, that might be expected.

You make it sound like Brown is going to miss his next 50 shots though lol.

[Phantom255x]

Agreed...but we could have Both Jaylen and Butler by draft night.

At the expense of Bradley, Fultz/Ball/Jackson and possibly Crowder or Smart.

NO THANK YOU.

[jambr380]

Can you imagine if we traded the BKN pick, Jaylen, AB, and Smart for George or Butler?

I definitely agree that Jaylen can be a Butler prototype. I'd like to see him fight a bit more on defense, but he is a thinker and the team defense concept hasn't become natural to him yet. Luckily he is a superior athlete with great determination and this has helped make up for some shortcomings.

Jaylen on offense, though, is awesome. You can see his improvement with each month that goes by. He may not be a future star, but he sure looks the part.

[gift]

I'm almost a bit concerned about how good his shooting numbers have been lately.  This efficiency is clearly not sustainable and we should temper our expectations and be accepting when he inevitably goes into a shooting slump instead of grumbling about how he's "regressed."

I'd have to look up the stats to back it up but I believe a lot of the shots he is taking are open. If that is the case I don't expect to see a ton of regression

He's a guy who's supposed to miss wide open threes though (cf. free throws).  I think we have to anticipate at least a little bit of regression.

I don't know that he's supposed to miss open jump shots though. I get that people use FT% as an indicator for 3P% potential. But they are very different shots. I think the link is just that good shooters tend to be good at both, though there are exceptions.

Look at Avery Bradley as a guy with relatively low FT% with good 3P%. But maybe he is supposed to regress too. I actually think Bradley is just one of those guys who has a (relative) problem with free throws for some reason. I don't expect a ton of regression in his three point shooting (maybe some).

[oldtype]

I'm almost a bit concerned about how good his shooting numbers have been lately.  This efficiency is clearly not sustainable and we should temper our expectations and be accepting when he inevitably goes into a shooting slump instead of grumbling about how he's "regressed."

I'd have to look up the stats to back it up but I believe a lot of the shots he is taking are open. If that is the case I don't expect to see a ton of regression

He's a guy who's supposed to miss wide open threes though (cf. free throws).  I think we have to anticipate at least a little bit of regression.

I don't know that he's supposed to miss open jump shots though. I get that people use FT% as an indicator for 3P% potential. But they are very different shots. I think the link is just that good shooters tend to be good at both, though there are exceptions.

Look at Avery Bradley as a guy with relatively low FT% with good 3P%. But maybe he is supposed to regress too. I actually think Bradley is just one of those guys who has a (relative) problem with free throws for some reason. I don't expect a ton of regression in his three point shooting (maybe some).

Difference here is that Avery's FT% is merely "not great (76%)"  Jaylen's FT% is bad (69%). 

FT% and 3P% are not equal, but they are highly correlated. In the entire history of the NBA, only 47 times has a player averaged better than 35% 3P% while shooting less than 70% at the line. 

Now there are some utter weirdo numbers on that list (did you know: Rodney Rodgers shot 64% form the line and 44%(!) from three in 2000), but for the most part you can't be a league average three point shooter while being a poor free throw shooter.